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Yes, I didn't go against anything you wrote, the cheating being minor, but the whole knowing where his daughter is being a huge fuck up. I'm just saying that his actions had these consequences.
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We slightly disagree on that but I think we already settled that a page ago or so on that subject.
- Jan 10, 2018
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Must try is a big word, but it does have a story and intrigue beyond just sex so def a should try if like that.
Yes, every woman being bisexual is totally normal... I didn't say she groped her that night specifically, she's done it mutliple times so far. And what exactly is the point of having Julia flirting with the MC just to go and get fucked by Deb? I'm not angry because the (not really) hot bisexual character gets the pussy, I'm just saying that's all she cares about. It certainly looks like it will be a harem game. Deb already has Julia and Jake, she just needs one more concubine, but I'm pretty sure she'll bang Milly soon enough, since the focus of the game is mostly directed on her, even if the dev insists she's not the main character.
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Do we make choices for her? in this update did we spent more time with her than the MC? could you skip her sex scene? If for you the main focus is sex, I was gonna say you are correct, but you aren't, the mc has had way more action then Deb, and the whole game focus on him, so no, she isn't the main character, if you think the main character is the one that has most sex, then you are looking at the game as porn first and a game second, also, again, you would be incorrect, the Mc has had sex with at least two characters besides Deb, and gotten in sexual situations with other, although tamer, since you know, girls have their guard up when with guys, normally, and Deb had sex scenes with the MC, some nude scenes with other characters and sex with the Maid.
- May 9, 2020
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Im still starting part3 of the game after that skiped a few parts to try to see if its worth to continue giving a shot because till now its a ok game, lets see if it gets better. Something that is bugging me alot its the lack of a "go fuck yourself" from the MC to sis after he learned what she had done. Really you learn that she was eating your wife she tells you that in an amused way, she knows how to contact your daughter and you cant tell her to go fuck herself and insted you are all lovey dovey with her, that shit bugs me alot. Even if she is a big part in the game for the future why not give us the option to tell her to fuck off, then create a way of making herself see the shit that she have done and try to reconciliat with MC or atlest a way MC can tolerat her for the sake of his Daughter safety. If she was that worried why didnt She tell everything to MC the way she talked with him in the morning at the kitchen? But no, lets make MC eat that shit and keep him all lovey dovey with her lol. And the way She acts i dont like too, worst than a teenager boy. And some others weird things in the way game go, lets see after play a bit more of changed my mind.
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Thing is, you can tell her to go fuck herself a couple times but nothing changes, there are "no" flags in the script. Like this update for example, when you push her against the wall she really seems like she realised that maybe this behaviour is not cool and she really seemed almost remorseful but going forward, it doesn't really matter because every conversation after that is the same regardless what you choose to do. That's the real problem.
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More sex scenes, doesn't mean anything. Right now there are 2 main female characters, besides Deb and she already fucked one of them, and made several advancements to the other. The MC's has gotten two sidechicks with minimal "screen time". She is the main character because everything important revolves around her. What we saw with only her in this update was getting on with one of the two other women in the house, and what we saw only with the MC meeting some random Japanese gangsters with no actual impact in the story. Even when the MC returned and went to Milly's room, Deb had to be there. The only actual purpose of the MC in the game so far was to see how Bart showed up in his place and told him about Marie. If you remove him from the game after that, it won't really change much. Deb will go to protect her niece and bang everyone in sight in the first couple of days. If you remove her though, the whole game will be the MC guarding Milly and... well that's all. Because apparently he can't do shit by himself and Deb has to be there to provoke him. Is a main character who's not taking any action by himself, really a main character? And what choices did you make? The only interesting choice was to fight the Japanese guys, and the dev didn't let us have it. Other than that, no matter what you do or say to Deb, the end result is the same, she gets what she wants, like the main characters usually do. Also, like you said her scene with Julia was skippable, not optional (big difference) which make every single flirting scene with her and the MC menial too. And even if skipped it, you had to see the feed from the camera, after Deb's text to advance the game.
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The game remembers this interaction with a significant point decrease (-3 I believe). The thing is, so far there have been very few (if any?) point check gateways for scenes or dialogue. I agree though that through the renders it actually does look like Deb "gets it" in this scene so maybe it's an oversight on the Dev's part? Not sure what to make of it to be honest.
Deb sometimes seems to be trying to be MC's wingman. Thing is: he never asked her to be his wingman. Sometimes it seems like she's building her own harem, but MC never agreed to be part of her harem. (That's how harems work, folks!) It confuses the fuck out of me that Julia has been flirting pretty heavily with MC but ends up sleeping with Deb. Does she want him or not? The fact that she is sleeping with Deb doesn't particularly bother me, but it doesn't make me want to have MC pursue her any more. Is she going to be railroaded into MC's bed eventually? (If that comes up, it should be a choice, and the player shouldn't be punished for choosing "no thanks". Whether to pursue a threesome or not should have been a choice as well.)
MC is supposed to be there to protect all of them, especially Milly. However, Deb takes every single opportunity she can to undermine him. It's good that MC can finally articulate this and call her out on it. However, the damage is already done. MC asks Julia why she followed Deb's instructions and not his. Julia says it's because Deb "sounded like she meant it". That's bullshit. The only reason Julia has to think MC doesn't "mean it" when he says something is because Deb has continuously poisoned the well. The fact that MC can't set Julia straight somehow is problematic as well. It needn't be mean. A gentle reminder why he's there and the fact that he can't protect anybody if they don't listen to him would suffice. Julia seems smart. She'd get it.
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Okay, so again, she has her own stories and is doing her own thing, as is the MC, she has less sexual hangups, so she gets the girl before the MC, basically, you are complaining about the MC and not Deb, and again, it makes sense story-wise and is consistent with their personalities, I understand that you don't like the MC or Deb, but that is you, he is still the MC, he makes decisions, some with death as a consequence and a game-overscreen, like, you know, in many other games, some with him getting closer to his daughter, or starting a relationship with someone else, your problem is thinking of characters as side-characters, they are a part of the storie you liking it or not, also, so what that she fucked Jules first? the Mc is not in a relationship with her, and in no moment she gave the impression that they would be, so far they are moving towards fuck-buddies at best, she had shown interest in the sister and the MC, now I'll agree that we should have the option to accept the threesome, but there is a reason to be a threesome and not just the two of them, and that is Deb pushing Jules to be more sexual, hell the game would way slower without Deb, that is true, otherwise, not much would change either, since the premise of the game is the MC's relationship with his daughter, not fucking everyone in the house, again you have porn first and game later,
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Well Azrayal I firstly have got to say you must have hit it right because of the discussion thread is alight, secondly I just love the update MC starting to take charge/ get some real action, it looks like he is finding his feet and Deb backing off as ordered nice progression (patience is needed as the story unravel) Keep up the good work
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I think its better to change from male protagonist to female protagonist because she is the one doing everything she wants and banging everyone and that its the MC role not a side char. Right now MC is more a side char just following the flow than a real MC.
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Here's the thing, if MC wasn't there..... This game won't change at all. And if the game wouldn't change if you subtract the MC, can you call him the MC? Its pretty straight forward.
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Well Azrayal I firstly have got to say you must have hit it right because of the discussion thread is alight, secondly I just love the update MC starting to take charge/ get some real action, it looks like he is finding his feet and Deb backing off as ordered nice progression (patience is needed as the story unravel) Keep up the good work
I'm legitimately curious as to how you've drawn the conclusions you have.
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They would probably be dead by now since his sister would have probably been confrontational with the first armed men that showed up and done the sensible thing instead of the weird swipe kick that the player did(that bothers me so fucking much), or worse since she doesn't take it as seriously as he does, but even if not, the answer would be yes, if you didn't exist my story wouldn't change either, the only things that would change would be whatever interactions you had with me through this site, Milly would mourn her dad, or resent him forever, the girl from the plane would still be single, and probably not in trouble, his sister would be depressed because he is either dead or imprisoned and now she would have no one around her, the Japanese girl would not have found out about her brother threatening he servants family and she would keep feeding him information, and I probably could think of a few more differences.
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Dev decided to rework the game so I'll no longer be doing the mod, you guys know this is my hard a fast rule now. So bring on the sad faces if you will. Btw you have to start a new save.
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I really hope we're not gonna be forced into a threesome with Julia and Deb and honestly I'm not even interested in a one on one with her anymore, after that last update. If there's gonna be a threesome, I'm not interested in playing the third wheel, but be the one to initiate it. What I mean is that if the MC had sex with Jules and then Deb joined in, I probably wouldn't mind, although I'd prefere any other woman before Deb... In my eyes, after this last update, Jules ended up with Deb and that's the end. I'm no longer interested in her and I hope we'll be able to tone down all the flirting too, since she made her choice. If the dev wants the MC to bang her, I hope it will be optional and by that I mean it doesn't happen, not like that scene when you can reject Deb and in the next frame she's lying naked next to you, so you just skipped the sex scene.
I don't get this recent trend where they make every woman bi and have someone close to the MC bang a love interest. Ok, I get that some people are into lesbian sex (besides lesbians obviously...), but not everyone is into that. For me it doesn't make a difference if we are talking about a man or a woman, if I see a love interest having sex with someone else, I don't care for her anymore and I hope any sex scenes with her will be optional from that point on.
Here is why the MC cheated........... it was written into the story as the original stick to beat people over the head with who pointed out all the stupid things that occur in this game.
Any negative comments or issues people have in the game or about the game, I feel that the writer will not address them, he will instead write in reasons why some people who do not like how things are occurring were wrong and another reason they ...... just didn't see the full picture.
The dev is fully aware of backlash for Deb, which is why he gave the bullet scene to the head and a game over, if anything I think he quite enjoys annoying people and has no reasons to change.
I fully believe him when he says this is his first game, I think he has some over reaching plot in his mind and end game. But when he states people just don't have the full picture when they raise points that are silly within the game, I think for the micro details he will react to the negative things and will add things in to counter act points and then go, o look, told you did not know the full picture. If you will allow me to use the term, add more sticks in to beat you with and to invalidate complaints. Things he will just make up on the fly. The advantage of being the developer.
The writer says the MC is emotionally stunted and awkward with women, I recall at the very beginning of the game he was off pulling women in the bar with his friend and he woke up to a woman in his bed, she left him his number, could he have been that bad ??. He also pulled an air hostess. Where did the friend from the beginning ever go. Terrible writing is the heart of the issues, the story is not dealt with logically and why the MC responds to things within the story like he is mentally challenged. The story is forcing things to occur because they have to occur. Now people are using this fabricated emotionally stunted and awkward with women as a magic wand to wave away criticism deb gets the women and decides things. Seems odd, considering he was pulling women from the start of the game. But whatever. I guess he just forgot how to do it or forgot how to stand up for himself because the plot needed it to happen, a hardened army vet who had to think under pressure situations, now a child and needs others to lead.
At the end of the day I think the dev is making the game for himself and that is ok, I don't think he is making it to get money and I feel he likes adding silly things into the game to wind people up, logic be damned.
There are many things story wise you could trawl through and show they are devoid of logic, but at this point, whoever likes the game likes it and will probably stay the same. Me listing them will not sway the die hard fans at this point. So I won't start rattling them off.
Any negative comments or issues people have in the game or about the game, I feel that the writer will not address them, he will instead write in reasons why some people who do not like how things are occurring were wrong and another reason they ...... just didn't see the full picture.
The dev is fully aware of backlash for Deb, which is why he gave the bullet scene to the head and a game over, if anything I think he quite enjoys annoying people and has no reasons to change.
I fully believe him when he says this is his first game, I think he has some over reaching plot in his mind and end game. But when he states people just don't have the full picture when they raise points that are silly within the game, I think for the micro details he will react to the negative things and will add things in to counter act points and then go, o look, told you did not know the full picture. If you will allow me to use the term, add more sticks in to beat you with and to invalidate complaints. Things he will just make up on the fly. The advantage of being the developer.
The writer says the MC is emotionally stunted and awkward with women, I recall at the very beginning of the game he was off pulling women in the bar with his friend and he woke up to a woman in his bed, she left him his number, could he have been that bad ??. He also pulled an air hostess. Where did the friend from the beginning ever go. Terrible writing is the heart of the issues, the story is not dealt with logically and why the MC responds to things within the story like he is mentally challenged. The story is forcing things to occur because they have to occur. Now people are using this fabricated emotionally stunted and awkward with women as a magic wand to wave away criticism deb gets the women and decides things. Seems odd, considering he was pulling women from the start of the game. But whatever. I guess he just forgot how to do it or forgot how to stand up for himself because the plot needed it to happen, a hardened army vet who had to think under pressure situations, now a child and needs others to lead.
At the end of the day I think the dev is making the game for himself and that is ok, I don't think he is making it to get money and I feel he likes adding silly things into the game to wind people up, logic be damned.
There are many things story wise you could trawl through and show they are devoid of logic, but at this point, whoever likes the game likes it and will probably stay the same. Me listing them will not sway the die hard fans at this point. So I won't start rattling them off.
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Funny thing is the mod you just dropped is probably the last thing to keep me following the game. Thank you very much.
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Or conversely Deb shows up protects the daughter/niece that's a draw
Deb seduces Milly. That's a plus for Deb/Milly
Julia hooks up with Deb. That's status quo
The Japanese girl keeps being a snitch, that's status quo.
Milly resents her dad forever, that's a status quo.
Deb loses brother, but keeps building harem, so that's a status quo.
I mean if anything Deb and Millys life is slightly better minus MC.
At least how the story is written right now.
I suspect though we're never gonna see eye to eye on this which is cool. I always enjoy debating these things, and your a fun user to interact with.
And yes that swipe kick thing was horrible. Lol