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TundraLupus

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Or conversely Deb shows up protects the daughter/niece that's a draw

Deb seduces Milly. That's a plus for Deb/Milly

Julia hooks up with Deb. That's status quo

The Japanese girl keeps being a snitch, that's status quo.

Milly resents her dad forever, that's a status quo.

Deb loses brother, but keeps building harem, so that's a status quo.

I mean if anything Deb and Milkys life is slightly better minus MC.

At least how the story is written right now.

I suspect though we're never gonna see eye to eye on this which is cool. I always enjoy debating these things, and your a fun user to interact with.

And yes that swipe kick thing was horrible. Lol
You too actually, but yeah, being the status quo was not in question, the question was if he disappeared would something would change, and the answer is yes, also the thing of Deb building a harem is iffy, because I doubt she would be physiologically okay if the Mc died or something else happened to him, and Milly would probably be relatively okay, but would never heal from thinking her father abandoned her, but yeah, you are probably right in the part that we won't agree.
 

Jstforme

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Played this for the first time, gotta say, the criticism people have with Deb is right on. MC is likely incapable of establishing relationships with women because his sister cuts him off at the knees and seduces them for herself. This dude sticks around to be everyone’s trash can...it’s depressing.
 

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Ok well fancy that have to say thats is a really new experiance for me, its been a while since I played this so I started a fresh game to remind myself what it was like and I do remeber the girls in it being worth going after looks wise. But the sister was really really unlikable in the early versions and I know Dev decided to rewrite her to make her more likable but I never got around to playing it.
Now I have played it again all I can say is the MC's still a prat he's utterly clueless and for the most part with only a few exceptions balless when it comes to the girls in the game not to mention the horny preeteen sexualy thoughts he comes up with some of which are at the stupidist times. also what is it with d
Dev's these days that believe if a man is thinking he can't do anything else at the same time? I we were like that in RL nothing would ever get done because all men would spend 90% of there time stood motonless with a stupid look on their faces while thinking stupid sex thoughts about every female that walked past them.

Ok so he stands upto his sister now and again but then he just lets her ignore him and carry on as she was before. Untill the last point where he actually threatens her but then she still partly ignores him and trys a slightly less bitchy but no less vindictive put down infront of his daughter.
But what suprised me most is that I can honestly say this is the only Incest game i have ever played where I don't want to bang any in that house not the housekeeper what ever she is called or the daughter and most especially not the sister.
At least the daughter thinks she has a reason to be a mean bitch to him early on whats the sister's excuse?. She would probably just say that she was messing with him but the put downs she uses are not funny and 90% of the time they are just mean.
Not to mention she conveniently manages to persudes her brother that pretty much every little thing bad in his life is his entirely his own fault.
Which he just seems to except her words as gospel like a true pussy.
Even the housekeeper is happy to have a go at him.

Don't get me wrong I like the game I love the side girls and the story is very interesting. An estranged dad has to protect his daughter while finding out who from and where the missing item is. I loved all that part.

But I have 0 interest in either the MC or the 3 main females in the game, infact i can promise you this I have never in all the time since I Started playing adult games ever before activly picked choices to try and avoided anything sexual with a daughter or a house keeper and especialy with a sister where ever possible.
I will abmit I started out likeing the Housekeeper but quickly lost interest when she started joining in with the lets humiliate the MC and put him down or better yet blame him for shit he's not really guilty off.
And even I was plesently suprised when it at looks like dating astrid might of just of got me out of the possible threesome with the sister and housekeeper (yay lucky me).
I'm fairly sure most won't agree with me but don't really care and despite all that I will continue to play till its complete because the idea and the
story are good and interesting.
But untill sex with the Housekeeper, Sister and Daughter become nolonger avoidable I will still keep trying to avoid it and when it is unavoidable I will suck it up for the story and ofcorse Kumiko who is one hot girl and the only one sofar to show the MC any form of respect.

Just had to get that off my chest Its a totaly new experience for me to be playing and Incest game where I'm trying to avoid haveing Incest in it.
 
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Ghostredneck

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The foundations for a great story are here. Relationship with the Sister and ex wife.. Troubled relationship with the Daughter.

Somehow that is lost behind a lot of nonsense. I would dump the phone, And some of the Story elements that pulls away from some great building moments with the Sister and Daughter. Some scenes are building to a great emotional moment but then seem to drop off by something utterly pointless.,

will definitely keep watching.
 

Cernunnos.

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Decided to do an Optimal choices in Game WT Mod for this one, Enjoy!
Awesome and thank you for your service. I'd just opened a pdf walkthrough and hand to god exclaim, 'jiminy Christmas.' It was color coded as though the 90s exploded on it (no offense to said creator.)
 

Avaron1974

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After 5 updates i've pretty much come to terms with the fact that I really like some of the girls and side characters but i'll never like the MC, he is the drizzling shits.

He acts like a socially awkward 13 year old virgin yet he's ex military, got a kid and been fucking his sister for years yet still so pathetic around women it's awkward to read.

I have to skip dialogue because it makes me feel weird with how weird he makes every situation he's in when it comes to women.

Then he has a brief flash of being a semi decent MC during the whole taken thing .... then back to being a pathetically awkward tosser once he got back to the girls despite just fucking a hot girl and fingering her sister.

It's the weirdest shit i've ever read.

I don't want to shit on it because the story is interesting and some of the characters are awesome but that MC needs to figure out if he's going to be a normal functioning human being or scared of his own shadow because the schizophrenic behaviour isn't painting him in a great light.

It's a shame he's the most seen character because he's the one holding it back from being great.
 

Look-see

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not sure when vasectomy was first mentioned in this game but this update made me realize certain risks wont be risks:cry::sneaky:

all in all as long as we can choose who to engage with when we get the chance i still have enough interest in this game. i'll admit im not into muscle chicks too much so milly might be a no for me but still hope for a good ending for her. as for deb...hmmm maybe an ending with her a jules end up together.

i'll admit the...kimiko scene?(bad with names) required a second playthrough didnt want main playthrough where i took advantage of some servant girl but second playthrough changed opinion so all is good.
 
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Cernunnos.

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not sure when vasectomy was first mentioned in this game but this update made me realize certain risks wont be risks:cry::sneaky:
Yeah I just got to that part and my interest in this game hit rock bottom. Way to kill the fuckin mood.

I'll never understand why Devs do this. What does it gain them? Simply never mentioning it would lead the player to assume some sort of birth control was used whereas this route precludes any kind of risk kink, any impregnation kink, and severely (for me at least) harms the masculinity of the character. Knowing that the MC is a biological dead end is a huge mood killer.
 
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Vrijgeest

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If he has a vasectomy there will be no chance that any relationship with Milly will be incest as no there will be no offspring possible and both are over 18.
I did find it a bit long winded and unnecessarily complicated. This was my first time reading it. The MC does not live up to the part but generally the characters were quite good and both Deb and Julia were recognisable. Milly is very childish suffering severely from 'spoilt brat or Trump' syndrome. I will keep track of it at least until the next time.
 

Davewatch

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I'm legitimately curious as to how you've drawn the conclusions you have.
What part of my conclusion do you not understand? MC has sternly warned Deb off and she may be a little sarcastic (that's her style) but she is essentially keeping her gob shut. MC is emotionally stunted so unless Sex is offered on a plate he can not read the signs of a "come on" (a drunken women in a bar and one night stands do not make for a relationship and his Astrid took time to get to know him) but he got some new action that was HOT. Don't forget there is an underlying ever present danger theme that has to be his priority whilst care free Deb is only interested in self and doesn't take anything seriously (but that does provide a distraction for the others to keep their mind off the threat)
 

Osamabeenfappin

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What part of my conclusion do you not understand? MC has sternly warned Deb off and she may be a little sarcastic (that's her style) but she is essentially keeping her gob shut. MC is emotionally stunted so unless Sex is offered on a plate he can not read the signs of a "come on" (a drunken women in a bar and one night stands do not make for a relationship and his Astrid took time to get to know him) but he got some new action that was HOT. Don't forget there is an underlying ever present danger theme that has to be his priority whilst care free Deb is only interested in self and doesn't take anything seriously (but that does provide a distraction for the others to keep their mind off the threat)
Because Deb has been told to back off before........ And never does. And carefree Deb actually seems like she's actively endangering the others in the house with her under mining of MC. As to the new action, I didn't find it particularly hot, but too each their own I guess. And we'll agree to disagree as to how emotionally stunted the MC is. IMO Deb is the emotionally stunted one in this game.

But thanks for taking the time to respond.
 
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Because Deb has been told to back off before........ And never does. And carefree Deb actually seems like she's actively endangering the others in the house with her unddrmining of MC. As to the new action, I didn't find it particularly hot, but too each their own I guess. And we'll agree to disagree as to how emotionally stu Ted the MC is. IMO Deb is the emotionally stunted one in this game.

But thanks for taking the time to respond.
I see where you are cumming from and I do not disagree but I think towards the end of the latest update and MC's threat she seem to have reluctantly backed off a little (her undermining was a threat and a big part of the reason MC threatened Deb)
 

freedom.call

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This seemed like a story I'd like to see, unfortunately I can't stand the cast's personalities and constant smart-ass dialogue.

Good luck with the game anyway. :)
 

DA22

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Because Deb has been told to back off before........ And never does. And carefree Deb actually seems like she's actively endangering the others in the house with her under mining of MC. As to the new action, I didn't find it particularly hot, but too each their own I guess. And we'll agree to disagree as to how emotionally stunted the MC is. IMO Deb is the emotionally stunted one in this game.

But thanks for taking the time to respond.
Well in a way all those women are pretty stupid as well letting Deb undermine MC. They know he is ex special ops and Deb is not even if she is militairy. Secondly Mary did everything she could for years to keep MC away from Milly for whatever reason and still now she calls for him to protect Milly and did not ask Deb, while she knows Deb will not have all the trust issues and other things with Milly.

Now with all those women knowing that, they should at least be aware that Mary,knowing them both, considered MC to be the way more qualified one, since despite all the problems he would face with Milly and her reasons for keeping him away, she still considered him the better option.
 

Osamabeenfappin

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Well in a way all those women are pretty stupid as well letting Deb undermine MC. They know he is ex special ops and Deb is not even if she is militairy. Secondly Mary did everything she could for years to keep MC away from Milly for whatever reason and still now she calls for him to protect Milly and did not ask Deb, while she knows Deb will not have all the trust issues and other things with Milly.

Now with all those women knowing that, they should at least be aware that Mary,knowing them both, considered MC to be the way more qualified one, since despite all the problems he would face with Milly and her reasons for keeping him away, she still considered him the better option.
Yea I totally agree with you. You would think at least Julia would be smart enough..... Yet here we are lol
 

DA22

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Yea I totally agree with you. You would think at least Julia would be smart enough..... Yet here we are lol
Thing is I have a slight suspicion dev does love Deb a little bit too much and for that reason is unconsciously a bit too much on her side. :)

Same that you would expect Milly to at least have some questions, after reading her Mother's letter, for aunt Deb why she never told her that her father had been looking for her like mad and start trusting her less. :p It should be pretty clear to Milly by now, that Deb had been in contact with her father all that time and neither told her or her father anything.
 

Avaron1974

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It should be pretty clear to Milly by now, that Deb had been in contact with her father all that time and neither told her or her father anything.
It's like Milly said this update.

Her mother may have lied but she must have had a reason to do so which is why she may have a thing for her dad but she doesn't trust him.
 
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