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DA22

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i really hope azrayal takes this comments to heart and changes the storytelling to a much less pussy MC and gives him some balls and a more strong willed character to actually be that what he was : A Soldier/Special Force Soldier that can think for himself and that he has a brain to use to solve things around him and that he can understand and read people around him BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE and the story is to far told already.

every millitary soldier should have some of that abillitys
Well it is the job of the dev to fill that out within the story he wishes to tell. But yeah if he wants to portray the mc as an overall competent guy when not around the female members of his family it could be wise to at least show some signs of it quite soon beside that remark of his sister that he was very efficient in militairy operations in past but not able to think when around females and maybe also give some little insight on why that is since mc is not a 14 yo ruled by hormones anymore or should not be. :p

Well dev did get me intrigued though by story until now and somewhat annoyed, so he/she did something right. :p
 

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So this is another emasculated/beta mc game? :oops: I just started and already getting a headache from all the fooking arse Engrish.
was holding my breath the whole time waiting for the cockney rhyme slang to kick in! lol
(well, more so than was already on display)
was expecting something like the scene in Austin Powers to start up any minute!
 
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So I played the update and it was not as bad as I imagined it would be. I had played the first version, so I knew about all of the ex and sister betrayal crap, so moving past that to the new material. The sister still doesn't come across as committed to loving her brother, she loves him on some level, but will betray him again without a second thought if she thinks she can get away with it. Case in point, she would have been banging the MC's daughter if he hadn't explicitly told her not to, and she still might, since she can't seem to help herself.

Julia seems pretty straight forward, but in the end she's hired help and that's where her loyalty lies. If she really cared to help the MC she would tell the daughter that her mother lied to her and that her father didn't leave her voluntarily. The problem is she is coming off as a phony, her attitude is "I know the story, but I won't tell her...yet you go MC I am rooting for you." Makes little to no sense to me.

Astrid, I just can't bring myself to trust her. I feel like she was put there to monitor the MC by his ex. I know she was supposedly only hired for the private jet in the last few eeks, but come on. That would require a huge concidence and with all of the other stuff going on I just can't accept it at face value.

The daughter is a spoiled little brat. I would feel sympathy for her if she had half a brain cell, but she is so wrapped up in her own pity party that she will not even talk to the MC. I mean she doesn't even want him to use any of the common areas for fear they might end up in the same room together.

MC is just a doormat for any and all of them to walk on. Elite forces my hairy butt. He has the attention span of a flea on crack and the libido of a 13 year old hitting puberty. All the enemy needs to do to take him out is send in a women with big tits and a bubble butt wearing a tiny black dress displaying way too much cleavage, while he is ogling her and thinking `DAMN, them some fine titties, I'd love to slide my c...` *POP* you see he is so focused on those tits that he never notices her pulling a gun and putting round center mass, the last sound he hears is *POP POP* as she double taps him in the head to make sure he's dead...because she's a professional and he's a loser wannabe.


I know some of that was pretty harsh, but the story can be fixed if the dev just takes some time to make some changes. As it stand the MC is just a hormone driven special forces pretender...there's not much to like about him. The MC needs to man-up and take control, and if that pisses the daughter off then so be it. There is still a lot of potential here, but with the only likeable characters being Bart and Albert this won't last long if things don't change. And lastly, it doesn't really fell like a VN, it feels like a Kinetic Novel since you aren't given any choices that matter, otherwise I would have told the sister to take a hike instead of being forced to have sex with her.
 

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There is one glaring issue I don't get that makes the wifes "well thought out" plan seem like it wasn't very well thought out even though it's for plot reasons it's still incredibly silly.

So, the daughters life is in danger, his ex new this and sent documents to him saying she'd lied to the daughter to keep her safe.

Why then, if she is in so much danger and only her dad can help, did the ex not also send something to the daughter to let her know she lied therefore she would go to her dad and be a bit safer?

Convoluted plan has glaring plot holes.

Normally I can overlook them, like I said, I know it's for story reasons but it's a big damn hole.

This wrecks my head too. It makes everything between the MC and his daughter seems contrived nonsense. All he has to do is hand her the letter he has,
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make protecting her easier. I can not imagine how on earth it would possible to overlook this!
 

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This wrecks my head too. It makes everything between the MC and his daughter seems contrived nonsense. All he has to do is hand her the letter he has,
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make protecting her easier. I can not imagine how on earth it would possible to overlook this!
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That just kills the story for me.
 

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That just kills the story for me.
Well that part could make sense if the Mother was still alive and has to take into account she will have to face her daughter later and prefers her not know the extend of the web of deceit she weaved. It might also explain if Julia does know she would be alive and same for Bart. Bart also knows the truth after all and does not tell. Only reason we can see now would be a loyalty to the Mother, but if she would be death loyalty to the daughter and fact she would be more likely to allow her father to protect her if she knew, should then at least tempt them to tell the truth unless there is another reason to keep silent as well that we as players are not aware off yet.
 

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Well that part could make sense if the Mother was still alive and has to take into account she will have to face her daughter later and prefers her not know the extend of the web of deceit she weaved. It might also explain if Julia does know she would be alive and same for Bart. Bart also knows the truth after all and does not tell. Only reason we can see now would be a loyalty to the Mother, but if she would be death loyalty to the daughter and fact she would be more likely to allow her father to protect her if she knew, should then at least tempt them to tell the truth unless there is another reason to keep silent as well that we as players are not aware off yet.
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And if I understand it the ex told several of the NPC's what happen.

Its like a B rated movie, the best choice is there for all to see and the worst choice is chosen.


Everyone knows but the one that needs to know the most.
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And if I understand it the ex told several of the NPC's what happen.

Its like a B rated movie, the best choice is there for all to see and the worst choice is chosen.


Everyone knows but the one that needs to know the most.
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True, that is why it makes no sense not to tell the daughter by any of the other NPC unless the mother is still alive or there is another overriding reason for those NPC's we do not know yet or the law dev is always right when he needs some development to make his story work :p.
 

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I am also very confused by the plot. Questions need to be answered:

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MC was framed.
MC's wife knew when MC got out of prison he would do everything and anything to find out who framed him and it could kill him. To save MC she divorce him and as for Mr. Grace he was only used to help hide MC's wife and child so MC would look for them instead of who framed him, this way she saved MC life.
As for the danger that came later and is why she left all the info and letter for MC.
 

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MC was framed.
MC's wife knew when MC got out of prison he would do everything and anything to find out who framed him and it could kill him. To save MC she divorce him and as for Mr. Grace he was only used to help hide MC's wife and child so MC would look for them instead of who framed him, this way she saved MC life.
As for the danger that came later and is why she left all the info and letter for MC.
So instead of taking a chance he could die or succeed she decided for him to destroy his life so totally, he might decide it will be better to die, when he finds out about all those betrayals? Well that kind of love you can do without .......
 

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So instead of taking a chance he could die or succeed she decided for him to destroy his life so totally, he might decide it will be better to die, when he finds out about all those betrayals? Well that kind of love you can do without .......
The wife knew the only way to save the love of her life was to go into hiding with there child, she knew that MC would look for them instead of going after the ones who framed.
As per the story this was the only way to save MC's life.

Don't get me wrong I think it is a shitty way for the story to go but we do not write the story.
MC only has to show the letter to his daughter to make things right but its not happening in this story.
Yet anyway.
 
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So instead of taking a chance he could die or succeed she decided for him to destroy his life so totally, he might decide it will be better to die, when he finds out about all those betrayals? Well that kind of love you can do without .......
You forgot the part where she also destoyed their daughter's life, filling her head with lies and making her believe that her father abandoned her, because he didn't care about her, which eventually turned her into a bitch too... She was such a loving person!
 

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The wife knew the only way to save the love of her life was to go into hiding with there child, she knew that MC would look for them instead of going after the ones who framed.
As per the story this was the only way to save MC's life.

Don't get me wrong I think it is a shitty way for the story to go but we do not write the story.
MC only has to show the letter to his daughter to make things right but its not happening in this story.
Yet anyway.
Well it falls under the law of the dev is always right of course since it is his story, but for me that feels more like not loving someone but possessing him and not allowing them to make their own choices. Even if she was right and he might well have died, destroying someones life to potentially save them is kinda control freakish at the very least and then I am being nice. You know no guarantee he would not have anyway in a stupid accident or still will with his whole life destroyed.
 

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The wife knew the only way to save the love of her life was to go into hiding with there child, she knew that MC would look for them instead of going after the ones who framed.
As per the story this was the only way to save MC's life.
The problem with that is it leaves a ridiculous amount to chance.

So she takes the child, forces him to give up parental rights if he wants to see the daughter again, and then never lets him see her and goes into perpetual hiding. Basicly destroying the life of the man she "loves". I mean it's the dev's story and it's protected by plot armor, but in real life or even in a story with a reasonable expectation of reality. Her actions could very well have lead to the MC getting depressed and some night, in a drunken stupor, deciding to eat a bullet. And the letter only works as a plot device, since it was written because she suspected something might happen. What if she and the Senator had just died in an accidental plane crash before she wrote the letter? MC never gets informed and the daughter forever hates his guts.

Of course that doesn't happen since it's not part of the story, but those are the kind of thoughts that arise when the plot hinges on what appears to be a lot of coincidences and/or fortunate circumstance. Don't get me wrong, I like this game, but the plot needs shoring up. Something I learned many years ago when reading or watching TV/Movies is that for every credibility gap, there must be a gullibility fill. The story is stretching that required 'suspension of disbelief' thing pretty far. I am rooting for the dev though, because he does have a lot to work with and I do believe he can fix this.
 
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Pantreon post from the Dev from 28.Dez
I hope he Changes the story for the better now
a less pussy MC manned up a lot would boost everthing here

the first thing i would do when possible is to Kick deb in the Butt for breaking her promise to the MC :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
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Pantreon post from the Dev from 28.Dez
I hope he Changes the story for the better now
a less pussy MC manned up a lot would boost everthing here
THAT is excellent news. I would have been happy if the MC had just had a "what the hell am I doing?" moment and suddenly snapped out of his childish behaviour because, well, his daughters life is on the line. We'll see what changes are made and now I'm really looking forward to the next update.
 

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This game has a few good things going for it.

A lot of content for a first release, which is always appreciated.
That way you can actually determine whether the game is for you.
There are also quite a few different types of women.
Bigger and smaller breasts, lean and full bodies. Muscular and curvaceous.
Some you like, some you won't.
The story is also pretty well done so far, aside from some of the things I'll mention later, the characters are okay as well.

Which is actually part of my first personal negative.
The daughter is build like a body-builder and for me that is about the least attractive a woman can be. Nothing feminine about them IMO.
But yes, that's a personal taste and I don't want to rate a game worse for picking a body-type I don't like.

So here are a few other points I didn't like too much.

1. This was a very "wordy" game, meaning there was so much text that was just so-so that I went and skipped forward from time to time.
Which is something I loathe to do, because I actually like to play games for the porn AND the story.
Yet many of the conversations just go back and forth around the same few points again and again and that is just boring and even slightly annoying.

2. The sister, I do find Debbie sexy and it's clear that she is basically a positive character, but for fuck's sake she sounds like a sewer has come to life. "Potty mouth" is about ten times to soft an expression to describe this constant barrage of cursing and swearing, inappropriate sexual rants and other obscenities.
Look, I don't mind cursing or obscenities, but not constantly, all the time, no matter the situation, as if she is being completely and totally oblivious that this can be a complete turn-off if a woman curses more than a sailor.

Another point would be the MC, the guy has no filter, he just blurts out anything and is sexually attracted to anything that is female.
Who would after hearing your ex-wife died, whom you still loved, remember having sex with her and not a romantic moment?
And frankly if you see your daughter again after her mom just died and you haven't seen her for years it is fucking sick to react like a horny teenager to any sign of her being female.
But of course this trait runs in the family as both the MCs sister AND his grieving daughter does the same with the other family members.
How he constantly repeats the same juvenile reactions reminds me negatively of some of the other MCs in games here.

Seriously, less can be more sometimes. Seduction and romance are nice as well, it doesn't have to be sex and profanities all the time.

It isn't all negative, otherwise I wouldn't have given this three stars.
The story isn't bad, the writing isn't bad, just to repetitive and to drawn out. The characters of Deb the sister and the daughter aren't bad, if you discount their major flaws mentioned above.
Everytime Deb stopped cursing for a few lines, she cames off as being in love with the MC and caring for him and others.
The daughter is the typical stupid spoiled teen, with the addition of the grief over her mother's death, if you disregard that we already see her perving after her aunt and father.

Julia the caretaker and Astrid the neighbour are completely positive characters, especially Astrid is sexy AND sweet.

Honestly, if the dev tuned down some of the stuff I've mentioned AND instead of typical porn behaviour went just a bit more into trying to tell the actual story without everyone acting like sex-crazed teens all the time.
 
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i think in the end marie is still alive and the only reason she is doing this stunt with all the shit she has done to the MC regarding everything now is that SHE want´s the MC her "EX" Husband to clean all the shit she and her now "Alibi" husband has gotten into for them.
and maybe she hopes that in that prozess that he would not survives that because one way or another Millie will find out what she did and she hopes he will not survive this before millie finds out the truth for herself someday.
 
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i think in the end marie is still alive and the only reason she is doing this stunt with all the shit she has done to the MC regarding everything now is that SHE want´s the MC her "EX" Husband to clean all the shit she and her now "Alibi" husband has gotten into for them.
and maybe she hopes that in that prozess that he would not survives that because one way or another Millie will find out what she did and she hopes he will not survive this before millie finds out the truth for herself someday.
Well if that's true (I've thought about the possibility she's still alive too) she'll fuck up their live twice! Her daughter's more than twice actually. She took her father away and told her he abandoned her, then she took her mother away (by faking her own death), at the same time she brought her father back to her life just so she can take him out of it for good this time (if we consider the last part of your comment as a possible outcome) and then she'll show up like nothing happened. Yep... That won't fuck her up at all!
 
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