VN Ren'Py Tune in to the Show [Ep. 7] [RobertDeadth]

[TigerWolfe]

I mean not really... most "harems" have lez anyway... the few that don't are quite refreshing.
This game is very good and given that it's a dating show with MC in center, lez wouldn't make much sense story wise.

It's only refreshing if for some reason it bothers you... Otherwise it seems weirdly puritanical and kinda lame that the girls don't interact. Like they're afraid of cooties or something.

 

[Maviarab]

It's only refreshing if for some reason it bothers you... Otherwise it seems weirdly puritanical and kinda lame that the girls don't interact. Like they're afraid of cooties or something.

I can kinda see his point...lez stuff doesn;t bother me in the slightest, I'm very secure in my masculinity to ever be scared of another women and ultimately...women are hot.

however, on all that, I do think the trope of every woman in a harem being bisexual is a little old now...it would be nice if (some) devs allowd some agency where (some) girls don't participate and everyone is fine with that. Even if it was just one member of the harem....that indeed...would be very refreshing.

 

[JoeTheMC84]

It's only refreshing if for some reason it bothers you... Otherwise it seems weirdly puritanical and kinda lame that the girls don't interact. Like they're afraid of cooties or something.

Most women aren't bisexual let alone lesbians, yet in the vast majority of AVNs the women always "interact" in a sexual manner. It's only in porn where women do lesbian stuff even if they aren't. It's not that they are scared of cooties, it's just that they aren't lesbian or bisexual. Assuming that women have to do stuff is what is odd. Like, in a gangbang or orgy, the men don't usually blow each other (if they aren't bisexual or gay) while they wait to have a turn on the lady(s), but if there is more than one woman with a guy suddenly people expect the ladies to just want to do lesbian stuff to prevent boredom or something. It's pure porn mindset and it is refreshing when a AVN doesn't have it be a mandatory part of it. More and more people are getting annoyed with it, the novelty has worn off and people are finding it to ditract from more content with the Mc being with a girl. Context matters, and two chicks randomly doing stuff isn't any more titillating to me (and more and more others as well) than seeing any other out of context sex.

But that's just my two-cents...

 

[ThorinKing]

Most women aren't bisexual let alone lesbians, yet in the vast majority of AVNs the women always "interact" in a sexual manner. It's only in porn where women do lesbian stuff even if they aren't. It's not that they are scared of cooties, it's just that they aren't lesbian or bisexual. Assuming that women have to do stuff is what is odd. Like, in a gangbang or orgy, the men don't usually blow each other (if they aren't bisexual or gay) while they wait to have a turn or the lady(s), but if there is more than one woman with a guy suddenly people expect the ladies to just want to do lesbian stuff to prevent boredom or something. It's pure porn mindset and it is refreshing when a AVN doesn't have it be a mandatory part of it. More and more people are getting annoyed with it, the novelty has worn off and people are finding it to ditract from more content with the Mc being with a girl. Context matters, and two chicks random doing stuff isn't any more titillating to me (and more and more others as well) than seeing any other out of context sex.

But that's just my two-cents...

Most men don't have 12" cocks and fuck everything that smiles at them, either, including their moms, sisters, daughters, cousins and grandmas (well, unless they're royalty or from Appalachia, though the 12" cock is unlikely in those scenarios), but at least a few of those elements seem to be common to nearly all porn and the majority of AVNs. And don't even get me started on Japanese shit with tentacles, vore and everyone making an ahegao face from the first touch.

Les/Bi is just a common trope and a guy with two or more women (friends, IDENTICAL TWINS, sisters in general) is one of the more common fantasies out there. People trying to make money at this are, in large part, playing to the largest part of the demographic that might send them coins, not catering to the niche folks (unless that's their kink and their only focus) and those with seemingly Puritanical "fuck the women, but don't let the women touch each other - and, BTW, it's also okay to be a little cruel to the women since, after all, men are superior in every way" crowd. Unless you're a SJW, marketing 101 is play to the biggest audience. The overwhelming majority of VNs will do this.

Ah: the dreaded facepalm from someone I'm now remembering as being on my old "ignore" list. Now I remember why. Thanks for the reaction - need to rebuild my stats!

 

[TigerWolfe]

Most women aren't bisexual let alone lesbians, yet in the vast majority of AVNs the women always "interact" in a sexual manner. It's only in porn where women do lesbian stuff even if they aren't. It's not that they are scared of cooties, it's just that they aren't lesbian or bisexual. Assuming that women have to do stuff is what is odd. Like, in a gangbang or orgy, the men don't usually blow each other (if they aren't bisexual or gay) while they wait to have a turn or the lady(s), but if there is more than one woman with a guy suddenly people expect the ladies to just want to do lesbian stuff to prevent boredom or something. It's pure porn mindset and it is refreshing when a AVN doesn't have it be a mandatory part of it. More and more people are getting annoyed with it, the novelty has worn off and people are finding it to ditract from more content with the Mc being with a girl. Context matters, and two chicks random doing stuff isn't any more titillating to me (and more and more others as well) than seeing any other out of context sex.

But that's just my two-cents...

Women are much more willing to engage in physical acts of intimacy with the same gender without feeling a need to change their overarching sexuality. Outside of that I await your avn where everyone is stoically hetero in the face of the lack of any orgies and MC has an average member of about 5" because we all want our escapist fantasy to be sufficiently realistic.

 

[JoeTheMC84]

Most men don't have 12" cocks and fuck everything that smiles at them, either, including their moms, sisters, daughters, cousins and grandmas (well, unless they're royalty or from Appalachia, though the 12" cock is unlikely in those scenarios), but at least a few of those elements seem to be common to nearly all porn and the majority of AVNs. And don't even get me started on Japanese shit with tentacles, vore and everyone making an ahegao face from the first touch.

Les/Bi is just a common trope and a guy with two or more women (friends, IDENTICAL TWINS, sisters in general) is one of the more common fantasies out there. People trying to make money at this are, in large part, playing to the largest part of the demographic that might send them coins, not catering to the niche folks (unless that's their kink and their only focus) and those with seemingly Puritanical "fuck the women, but don't let the women touch each other - and, BTW, it's also okay to be a little cruel to the women since, after all, men are superior in every way" crowd. Unless you're a SJW, marketing 101 is play to the biggest audience. The overwhelming majority of VNs will do this.

Women are much more willing to engage in physical acts of intimacy with the same gender without feeling a need to change their overarching sexuality. Outside of that I await your avn where everyone is stoically hetero in the face of the lack of any orgies and MC has an average member of about 5" because we all want our escapist fantasy to be sufficiently realistic.

Nice strawmen you’ve build there my dudes.

 

[ThorinKing]

Nice strawmen you’ve build there my dudes.

Bless your heart.

The number of times I've seen someone throw out that term when they don't like people challenging their perspective is absolutely boggling.

 

[JoeTheMC84]

Bless your heart.

The number of times I've seen someone throw out that term when they don't like people challenging their perspective is absolutely boggling.

My point was, “Lesbian stuff is super troupe-ish, and it is refreshing and uncommon to see a game without it.”

Your response was, “There are other troupes too that get over done and some people like lesbians...”

Which had nothing to do with my point. Also, those other troupes are often annoying and is just as refreshing when they aren’t used… Hence, strawman.

I don’t disagree with you, some people like lesbians, and there are many successful games with that stuff. But that has zero to do with the point. The strawman fallacy is when you are arguing against a point that wasn’t made. Which is what you and the other guy did.

 

[TigerWolfe]

“Lesbian stuff is super troupe-ish, and it is refreshing and uncommon to see a game without it.”

If this was your point you conveyed it poorly, that's on you. Also I disagree emphatically with your stance.

 

[Uthuriel]

If this was your point you conveyed it poorly, that's on you. Also I disagree emphatically with your stance.

 

[ThorinKing]

My point was, “Lesbian stuff is super troupe-ish, and it is refreshing and uncommon to see a game without it.”

Your response was, “There are other troupes too that get over done and some people like lesbians...”

Which had nothing to do with my point. Also, those other troupes are often annoying and is just as refreshing when they aren’t used… Hence, strawman.

I don’t disagree with you, some people like lesbians, and there are many successful games with that stuff. But that has zero to do with the point. The strawman fallacy is when you are arguing against a point that wasn’t made. Which is what you and the other guy did.

Do you mean "tropes"? "Troupes" are typically groups of performers (actors, acrobats, etc.). And you seem to have missed my point. Moving on.

 

[ThorinKing]

With a name like that, perhaps he should try his hand at a book about pirates.

 

[Uthuriel]

"Troupes" are typically groups of performers (actors, acrobats, etc.).

TIL

 

[Bill Temple]

If this was your point you conveyed it poorly, that's on you. Also I disagree emphatically with your stance.

I've been watching this debate casually. The point you say was poorly conveyed was very evident to me. It's been one side expressing their ambivalence or boredom with the overabundance of lesbian action in harem games, and another side saying that it's puritanical and lame to not let the girls play. I don't see why this debate is even happening tbh, Dev already said it's not happening, so I guess just agree to disagree?

 

[motseer]

Do you mean "tropes"? "Troupes" are typically groups of performers (actors, acrobats, etc.). And you seem to have missed my point. Moving on.

I support troops!

 

[Uthuriel]

I don't see why this debate is even happening...

Oh that's easily answered... we are on a porn game pirate site with dev support... aka we are all perverts to some degree and bored...

We could talk about why kids like cinnamon crunch so much if you'd like to change subject... we also could go back to on topic and talk about big boobas in this game... or aliens...

 

[TigerWolfe]

I've been watching this debate casually. The point you say was poorly conveyed was very evident to me. It's been one side expressing their ambivalence or boredom with the overabundance of lesbian action in harem games, and another side saying that it's puritanical and lame to not let the girls play. I don't see why this debate is even happening tbh, Dev already said it's not happening, so I guess just agree to disagree?

That wasn't my point ever, just that it's not uncommon for avns to avoid it just like this one does. I'm not asking dev to change their game and I enjoy this for what it is.

 

[motseer]

Oh that's easily answered... we are on a porn game pirate site with dev support... aka we are all perverts to some degree and bored...

We could talk about why kids like cinnamon crunch so much if you'd like to change subject... we also could go back to on topic and talk about big boobas in this game... or aliens...

Can we talk about troops?

 

[Uthuriel]

Can we talk about troops?

Sure... why not... what are your opinions about the Romulan troop deployment along the Neutral zone?

 

[motseer]

Sure... why not... what are your opinions about the Romulan troop deployment along the Neutral zone?

I think we should send them copies of "Tune In To The Show". They will argue over the lack of bisexual content and fight then kill each other. We will annex the entire Romulan Empire and expand F95 to where no man has gone before!