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JevilVerum

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I got the true ending because I don't like NTR. I wish there was more games out there that had real stories instead of this... filth. I knew what I was getting into but it's heart breaking that an artist like this is wasting away making this type of content. I hope that in the future Azienda makes more content that is more wholesome because in the good and true ending I can see what they are capable of.
I understand that you don't like netorare, and I can sense a strong cope power from you, but the happy ending is not the true ending. Neither the game nor the developers have said so.
 

tata19

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'Girl' -- You mean a full grown adult, that is married and has a full-time job. As in not some teen kid that is changing schools, jobs every few months, a person that is in a steady relationship, having steady employment and doesn't move around a lot. She is pretty much settled.

Both of them take advantage of Sophie for different reasons, but I wouldn't necessarily call them inherently bad people.

Just because Zack sleeps around while not in a relationship as a young adult, doesn't make him a bad person, yes he makes some choices that could be perceived as dick moves, but does that make him 'evil'? Personally I don't think so.

It is Sophie, the full grown adult, that made vows with her husband, that is sleeping behind his back and made the choice herself to continue doing so because she enjoys doing it. She even goes out of her way to mess with his head while doing so, by making phone calls while moaning and shit.

Yet you call her 'just a victim'? Lol, she is more evil than Zack and the principal combined. The only way she's a victim is because of circumstances at the start, but afterwards it's her own choice to continue without coming clean to her husband.

If she truly was a good and honest person, she would come clean and divorce her husband....
It is clear that she is not a victim, she knew well what she was doing. What I don't calculate, at least in these first endings, is that she was going to fall in love with Zack. Then, especially in the first of the endings, she is the one who turns the page on her new life while Zack and Felix remained tied to their past despite denying it.
 
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Walter Victor

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If that was the case then surely (like APBLU) it would be an option at the start of the game?

I tried it but playing parallel saves got tedious after a while.
Since two posters have mentioned this now, I believe I should explain myself.

There are tons of games out there that give options and multiple endings, that does not mean that those developers don't have canon routes that they prefer. This developer DID give us a choice as to how to play this game, but it is my personal opinion that they would rather you played both.

As for parallel saves getting tedious, I switched POVs between scenes and found it much easier to follow what was happening, and therefore not tedious at all. But I read the texts, so it's been easy for me to discern when to switch.
 

RippedKegels

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We got 3 endings for now:
1- the vanilla ending where Sophie refuses Zack and has a happy life with Felix
2- The hard NTR romantic ending where she leaves Felix for Zack
3- The cheating NTR ending where she stays with Felix but continues fucking Zack in secret, their children being his while Felix is none the wiser

And now we are starting the threesome route with Amy. Hopefully it ends up with both Amy and Sophie knocked up.

Also, I particularly want one route where Zack fucks and corrupts Danielle too
what's the key choice/s for ending number 3?

I've been waiting for that route. Didn't actually think it was in the game yet.
 

JJATH

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I understand that you don't like netorare, and I can sense a strong cope power from you, but the happy ending is not the true ending. Neither the game nor the developers have said so.
I respect your opinion and just ask people to respect mine. It wasn't cope it was just a shout into the void before forgetting the game honestly :)

I've just seen this game in development for two years and just haven't seen any progress.

It's not that I don't like NTR, it's just that's all I see. I don't see any effort put into the NTR. It's always a hot blond guy or some American that corrupts the beauty and stuff? Always a small dicked guy with no substance or drama, and Sophie acting the way she does afterwards. Lets just say I am rambling now and I'm going to stop xD
 
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JevilVerum

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I respect your opinion and just ask people to respect mine. It wasn't cope it was just a shout into the void before forgetting the game honestly :)

I've just seen this game in development for two years and just haven't seen any progress.

It's not that I don't like NTR, it's just that's all I see. I don't see any effort put into the NTR. It's always a hot blond guy or some American that corrupts the beauty and stuff? Always a small dicked guy with no substance or drama, and Sophie acting the way she does afterwards. Lets just say I am rambling now and I'm going to stop xD
I agree, it's better to stop, but mine is not an opinion. That ending is not the true ending. I wanted to point that out.
 
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Adultress

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Plus I would like for Nate to be a legit good guy, not Zack-lite, so i don't really like the idea of him corrupting and taking Danielle from Jonah.
I very specifically said that he wouldn't be corrupting Danielle, and my ideal version of the story would also reject the idea that Danielle is an object that can be taken from someone.
 

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If that was the case then surely (like APBLU) it would be an option at the start of the game?

I tried it but playing parallel saves got tedious after a while.
Not quite.
APBLU all pov is not truly all pov. It's MC POV + situations that MC don't see shown through eyes of others .
How is that different? You don't get to see the story through FMC eyes, you only get to see her pov at selected moments.
Here you have full FMC pov, you don't need to see male MC pov at all if you don't want to - something that APBLU does not offer. But at the flip side having both povs at the same times wouldn't really work, you need to play a bit of one pov and then swap.
I guess if keeping track of saves is an issue having a cellendar/in game date of sorts could help. I think that wouldn't be too problematic ?
 

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I don't see any effort put into the NTR. It's always a hot blond guy or some American that corrupts the beauty and stuff? Always a small dicked guy with no substance or drama, and Sophie acting the way she does afterwards.
The rarest form of NTR: she cheats not because of some contrivance like blackmail or mind control, but because the affair partner is offering her a genuine emotional connection. Sex with her husband isn't bad because he has a small dick and he cums too quickly, but because their emotional disconnect means he's no longer in tune with her body. Meanwhile, sex with her affair partner isn't good simply because he has a massive cock and can fuck for hours; instead, they communicate with each other, resulting in great sex and a healthier relationship. The protagonist loses his wife not because big penises are magic but because of the characters' actions (actions that are driven by their goals and their flaws)
 

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The rarest form of NTR: she cheats not because of some contrivance like blackmail or mind control, but because the affair partner is offering her a genuine emotional connection. Sex with her husband isn't bad because he has a small dick and he cums too quickly, but because their emotional disconnect means he's no longer in tune with her body. Meanwhile, sex with her affair partner isn't good simply because he has a massive cock and can fuck for hours; instead, they communicate with each other, resulting in great sex and a healthier relationship. The protagonist loses his wife not because big penises are magic but because of the characters' actions (actions that are driven by their goals and their flaws)
But she refuses to communicate with her partner but looking at your bio it looks like it doesn't matter what I say lol
 
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Seven Soft

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the affair partner is offering her a genuine emotional connection
I can see that to establish this storyline, the author will have to undertake the huge burden of giving the FMC a (nuanced and persistent) reason to keep staying with the partner (at least in appearance), as opposed to breaking up and becoming an item with the adulterer hastily after their first affair. This external reason can be some form of social expectations, but it realistically tend not to be internal such as conscience/guilt (for the reason i will describe below, in bold letters). It could work, but i rarely see AVN/porn game authors able to establish and maintain coherence on multiple parallel plotlines (i could only recall N_Taii).

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The point of my rambling in the spoiler above is to show that an ultra realistic approach (which is what i assume you are alluding) to Netorare allows little room to expand on the "steamy affair" aspect of the story. The domestic conflict between the husband and wife will have to take up a good amount of the story to establish foundation for a coherent plot, though this consequently further diminishes the emphasis on the already (in this scenario) scarce/short-lived adulterous episodes.

Although, things might be slightly different when it comes to young love, where the participants (foolish "adolescences") are likely not characterized by sound motives/reasoning. But the point here is that this approach will likely (though i can be wrong) cause the story lose its "smut-ness", which i believe is the primary appeal of AVNs to their audiences.

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Besides the "prince charming" scenario, this alternative is actually the most common premise behind incidents of infidelity. The key difference that usually distinguishes the two scenario is; in "prince charming" the girl has a particular rebound guy clearly in mind, whereas in the other scenario no particular rebound guy is in mind. And to extrapolate further; in the former, the female is extremely unlikely to be open for reconciliation with her ex. Whereas it is common to see the female coming around and hooking up once more with the ex in the alternative scenario. These details, i believe, shows how this view strikingly corroborates with real life phenomena.

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P.S. yes i purposely nested my paragraphs under spoilers to conserve space. And to organically filter those who want to engage and those who don't.

EDIT: changed "NTR" to Netorare for disambiguation
 
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Taboofan

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How many of the choices matter at this point? I'm presuming that the creator's gone back and added in some more routes that way?
 

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I'm often asked how I became a man of great sophistication, and I simply tell them I dialogue with other pseudoanonymous weirdos about an interactive novel that weaves a Darwinian tale through horny sluts and penises larger than mine.
Didn't realize i stepped into the kiddie section of the forum. I'll excuse myself then.
 
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