VN Ren'Py UFO [Ch.3 v0.6.7] [17MOONKEYS]

[nandaja]

A real shame, but I agree, this game was great, but now the dev's favorite fetish is clear, however, the fault is not the dev's, but rather those who support the game, the futa lovers (or any another fetish) who decide to force the devs to include more content than they should in their games, and more importantly all the users who, although they do not like that fetish, continue to support it because "it is optional" or because "in the next update I'm sure it puts other content", almost like begging when there is no need for it.

A shame.

i don't think it's the fans fault. Any dev creates and makes something that he himself enjoys. 17moonkeys likes futa stuff, i don't (i fucking hate it as a matter of fact) and i know 'im not the only one who really doesn't like this shit, but you can't force someone to make something that doesn't suit their taste.
Lol i wish he didn't implement any futa content in the game, but that's just not possible.
This game would have been one of my favorites if all female characters looked like Moolinda, Aisha and the grandma haha, but hey to each his own. Can't force tastes into people.

 

[loikl]

i don't think it's the fans fault. Any dev creates and makes something that he himself enjoys. 17moonkeys likes futa stuff, i don't (i fucking hate it as a matter of fact) and i know 'im not the only one who really doesn't like this shit, but you can't force someone to make something that doesn't suit their taste.
Lol i wish he didn't implement any futa content in the game, but that's just not possible.
This game would have been one of my favorites if all female characters looked like Moolinda, Aisha and the grandma haha, but hey to each his own. Can't force tastes into people.

You're right, in fact I may not have expressed myself correctly, I'm not trying to say that you are "forced" to do something or not, in fact what bothers me the most is that a developer is forced to change their story just to put a content of some fan service, what I meant with my previous comment was that when a developer has already decided the path they intend to follow, all that remains is to respect that and move forward, if you like that content, support it and if not, stop doing it and not settle for "it's avoidable" or bother the developer to remove it.

This is not the case, but there are games where the developer puts "controversial" content not because he likes it but to favor some group and because he knows that there will always be simps who support him no matter what crap he does with his game ( I REPEAT this is not the case.)

In the end the dev is free to do what he likes with his game, it would simply be useful, if the devs could clarify the direction of their game from the beginning, I think they would avoid these situations.

 

[17MOONKEYS]

You can't make beautiful futanari if you don't like futanari.
I just do what I love always listening to my fans because we are the same.

 

[nandaja]

You're right, in fact I may not have expressed myself correctly, I'm not trying to say that you are "forced" to do something or not, in fact what bothers me the most is that a developer is forced to change their story just to put a content of some fan service, what I meant with my previous comment was that when a developer has already decided the path they intend to follow, all that remains is to respect that and move forward, if you like that content, support it and if not, stop doing it and not settle for "it's avoidable" or bother the developer to remove it.

This is not the case, but there are games where the developer puts "controversial" content not because he likes it but to favor some group and because he knows that there will always be simps who support him no matter what crap he does with his game ( I REPEAT this is not the case.)

In the end the dev is free to do what he likes with his game, it would simply be useful, if the devs could clarify the direction of their game from the beginning, I think they would avoid these situations.

i understand what you're saying and partially agree with you, and yes there are devs out there who implement some kind of content just to please a portion of their fanbase. But again, if you're a dev and the game you're working on is a major source of income to you through Patreon, Sub etc, wouldn't you want to listen to what the fans want and put that into work ?

We've seen plenty of cases where games started shifting and sometimes turning into complete fan service just to please the fans, but if that's how a dev can make a living then so be it, i don't think there's anything wrong with that.

One of my favorite devs of all time is Amaziri who makes MetF, for years now a large group of fans have been continually asking (almost harassing him) to implement X or Y type of content and make W or Z type of change into his game, and he never did, even when some of the so called fans started leaving and stopped supporting him, and i respect him for that a lot because that's HIS game, and he wants to make it into a certain image, how HE sees it, not how some of the fans see it.
But even if he did change his game a bit to please some fans, i think i could understand why he would do that.

 

[TrueJackal]

There will be a lot of lactation and pregnancy in the game. Regarding real incest, I have not yet come up with a final idea.

Are you open to futa Mom topping her son and maybe feminizing him?

Also the renders are beatiful btw!

 

[LWtbo]

I know I stopped playing this and I said why before.
but I like to keep tabs on game's I used to enjoy playing.
Atleast twice now people have said something like ofcorse the dev should do what his supporter's want it's only right.
After all they support them.
This is (pardon my french) absolute bollocks.

You and the Dev's you mention are forgeting one thing they are supporters not co-writers not editor's not Ghost writer's.
They are just supporters and they support because they enjoyed the game as it was enough to want to support.
Or they wouldn't support it in the first place.
Ok so these days you now get some that will support a game just for the chance to change it to more of what they like.
And thats because other Dev's have listened to them and done what they wanted in the past.
But the moment a dev gives their supporters the power to tell the games story the way they want.
It is nolonger the Dev's story there just making a game by some else and now you also have supporters that feel entitled.
So when they leave because another support got something they didn't want in the game.
Any new Dev they goto support is gonna have issue's.

If you start a game as a commision or on a commision basis then yes the supporter should have a say as its their Idea.
But if you start a game because it's your Idea your story that you want to tell.
Then the supporter should be just that A Supporter.
Or (again pardon my french) they can fuck off.
They are not the Co-Dev a possible sounding board for idea's at best.
So the Dev shouldn't treat them as anything but fan of their game that wants to support them to complete it.

I support a few games.
Now I will tell the Dev if I dont like an idea and why or I think they seem to have strayed from their story.
Like the fact I find it strange in this one that someone thats supossed to go to earth and have the balls to seduce or rape the queen to save the whatever and was gonna teach the futa a lesson would then let himself be dominated and pegged.
And aparently from whats said he liked it.
I personally find it hard to reconcile that MC with the MC that is meant to do the first part of that story.
But I wouldn't expect the Dev to change it.
Not unless they wanted too and it's not what they had wanted to happen in the first place.

Now normally If there are typo's (like in this post) or if the wrong person is speaking a line meant for another NPC.
Or if there's a game has a bug.
I will tell the Dev or as has happend only once.
I have suggested how to improve a scene but only after the Dev admited by themselves.
That they were not happy with it but just couldn't think of how to change it and still have it fit the story.

But I wouldn't dream of telling the dev what they must write and how their story should go.
I am after all just a Supporter of their games and I support their games simply because I like what they write.
I certanly wouldn't support a game just because I thought I could do better or wanted to write it for them.

So after that long winded statment NO Supporters don't and shouldn't have the right to dictate the dev's story.

Just Sayin.

 

[Windsinger]

Little simple reminder for people,

Do you feel Artist/Devs should make what they do best and love doing? or are you the type of person that thinks the artist should only make what the fanbase(you) wants?

If the answer is the later, ok that's cool! there are a lot of people like that out there and it's fine to be one of them!
But, do you pay the dev sufficiently for their time investment to make the changes so that you like it?

And even if you're a paying subscriber/patreon/commissioner for obscene amounts of money, a artist/dev can still choose to not pursue that endeavor simply due to not feeling comfortable with it.

If you feel this is wrong and the artist should just do what people want, then perhaps the problem here is not the artist/dev but you.

 

[Windsinger]

For some reason, the ads keep playing as I progress through the game.
Do other people hace the same problem?

Erhm, what ads are you even talking about? the game has none?

 

[loikl]

i understand what you're saying and partially agree with you, and yes there are devs out there who implement some kind of content just to please a portion of their fanbase. But again, if you're a dev and the game you're working on is a major source of income to you through Patreon, Sub etc, wouldn't you want to listen to what the fans want and put that into work ?

We've seen plenty of cases where games started shifting and sometimes turning into complete fan service just to please the fans, but if that's how a dev can make a living then so be it, i don't think there's anything wrong with that.

One of my favorite devs of all time is Amaziri who makes MetF, for years now a large group of fans have been continually asking (almost harassing him) to implement X or Y type of content and make W or Z type of change into his game, and he never did, even when some of the so called fans started leaving and stopped supporting him, and i respect him for that a lot because that's HIS game, and he wants to make it into a certain image, how HE sees it, not how some of the fans see it.
But even if he did change his game a bit to please some fans, i think i could understand why he would do that.

Short answer: No.

Rule number 1 of software development (games included): "the client has no idea what they want", they will always want to put in everything they can regardless of whether it makes sense or not, turning your game into a complete fanservice does not work "Max life" is living proof of this, even his own fans believe that it has already lost meaning.

A little extra content is nice, but when your game starts with a young MC who is going to be "taken care of" by a bunch of MILFs only to end up as a cocktail of futas it just doesn't make sense.

But in the end that is the dev's decision, and I respect it, my only point is I don't see why continue supporting a game that clearly has a different approach than the one I (and the majority) enjoy, if your opinion or that of others differs is fine, for my part this discussion ends here.

 

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[nandaja]

loikl personally i won't be playing this game anymore, cause even though some of the models are to my taste, the story was interesting etc, but the futa stuff really isn't my thing at aaall, if anything it kinda disgusts me specially the futa on male stuff like what we had in this update, wich is basically gay sex (something that i'm really not interested into) and didn"t make any sense to me, the mc not being gay sudenly decides that he's gonna let someone fuck him in the ass ? Alright.. So yeah, kinda sad and disappointed cause the project looked very promising and enjoyable, but some of the things in it just aren't my cup of tea, and to each his own like we say. Best of luck 17MOONKEYS with your game.

 

[anzug]

I, for one, really enjoy the futa content. However I was a lot less excited about the unavoidable futa-on-male. So I'm kind of on the fence, but I'm still holding out hope for the next update.

 

[CatEclctic41]

Last time I check there is no incest tag for this game but now it has incest tag. So what kind incest content actually?

 

[Evan Treborn]

Last time I check there is no incest tag for this game but now it has incest tag. So what kind incest content actually?

In the beginning you have some fun with your mom and i mean a little bit with your sis

 

[CatEclctic41]

In the beginning you have some fun with your mom and i mean a little bit with your sis

so incest is only on the beginning? Not the story itself?

 

[Red Sand]

so incest is only on the beginning? Not continues until the latest update?

seems they are slightly incorrect or they're thinking of a different game , but yes it is a one-time event that happens in the beginning and that is with the grandma only. after that you'll never have a incest event happen again unless you count cloning/(MacGuffin sex dolls), but they will have no memories.(other than program to think of you as family) but the MC will encounter a few characters to call themselves MC's mommy.

 

[Evan Treborn]

seems they are slightly incorrect or they're thinking of a different game , but yes it is a one-time event that happens in the beginning and that is with the grandma only. after that you'll never have a incest event happen again unless you count cloning/(MacGuffin sex dolls), but they will have no memories.(other than program to think of you as family) but the MC will encounter a few characters to call themselves MC's mommy.

you are right

 

[ramvivat]

17MOONKEYS So, purely for fun, the question is - how big is your Russian-speaking audience to put political appeals in Russian in your craft?

Зря ты, чувак, решил разчехлиться - очень глупо с твоей стороны. кураторы все равно не оценят.
Будь здоров!
и да, я паржалъ

 

[Magnifico]

No Futa Tag ???

 

[17MOONKEYS]

No Futa Tag ???

What do you mean?