VN Ren'Py Undercover [v11.2] [Slow Burn Games]

[peperonni31]

we need more of this game!

 

[slowburngames]

Teaser chapter 11

 

[Enlight432]

The game still has a lot of good things going on but I have two rather big complaints.

1. The scenes are always too short
There's not a lot of renders during sex scenes and it always makes it feel very short and rushed

2. Jen is gorgeous but often ruined
I feel her face expression should use more subtlety as she looks amazing but is often deformed to an ugly witch during action

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slowburngames
This game is very good in every aspect, except for the flaw you mentioned
The sexual scenes need to be more detailed, with more text and rendering
Everything happens too quickly and progress too fast and end too abruptly during the sexual scenes. For example, in the first sexual scene, where the FMC is left alone with the MC's best friend, I expected a much more intense and heated moment. But it ended so quickly that I was left in shock for about 10 seconds, thinking, "Is that it?"
Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge fan of slow-burn games. What I'm saying is something else
I should also mention that I haven't had the chance to continue the game yet, so my comments are based on the first hour of gameplay
Other than that, the game has no other flaws

 

[slowburngames]

Teaser chapter 11

 

[slowburngames]

slowburngames
This game is very good in every aspect, except for the flaw you mentioned
The sexual scenes need to be more detailed, with more text and rendering
Everything happens too quickly and progress too fast and end too abruptly during the sexual scenes. For example, in the first sexual scene, where the FMC is left alone with the MC's best friend, I expected a much more intense and heated moment. But it ended so quickly that I was left in shock for about 10 seconds, thinking, "Is that it?"
Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge fan of slow-burn games. What I'm saying is something else
I should also mention that I haven't had the chance to continue the game yet, so my comments are based on the first hour of gameplay
Other than that, the game has no other flaws

Hi,
I don't dispute your comments at all. However, when doing "more" of something there will inevitably be a cost somewhere else. The sex scenes (at least for me) are the hardest and most time consuming bits and more renders means more time. There are two possible consequences:
The first is that the episodes have fewer events. Personally I think the episodes are already quite short (I can't physically produce any more renders in a month) so I don't really want to go down that road.
The second is that each episode takes longer to make. That is certainly a possibility, although I take pride in being one of the few devs giving monthly updates. Would readers be happy to wait, say, two months for each episode?

 

[Walter Victor]

Hi,
I don't dispute your comments at all. However, when doing "more" of something there will inevitably be a cost somewhere else. The sex scenes (at least for me) are the hardest and most time consuming bits and more renders means more time. There are two possible consequences:
The first is that the episodes have fewer events. Personally I think the episodes are already quite short (I can't physically produce any more renders in a month) so I don't really want to go down that road.
The second is that each episode takes longer to make. That is certainly a possibility, although I take pride in being one of the few devs giving monthly updates. Would readers be happy to wait, say, two months for each episode?

Two months would be fine with me, if it meant better sex scenes. You could probably pack in more scenes too. Or, if you don't want to add extra scenes, just do a 5-week release schedule, or whenever you think it's done.

Sticking to a firm schedule can win you a lot of points with some players. But it can often lead to frustration and burnout on the part of developers.

 

[Enlight432]

Hi,
I don't dispute your comments at all. However, when doing "more" of something there will inevitably be a cost somewhere else. The sex scenes (at least for me) are the hardest and most time consuming bits and more renders means more time. There are two possible consequences:
The first is that the episodes have fewer events. Personally I think the episodes are already quite short (I can't physically produce any more renders in a month) so I don't really want to go down that road.
The second is that each episode takes longer to make. That is certainly a possibility, although I take pride in being one of the few devs giving monthly updates. Would readers be happy to wait, say, two months for each episode?

Your explanation is completely understandable and logical
So, you haven't prioritized quality over quantity or vice versa
Anyway, you prefer this style, and everyone has their own taste
Regarding your question, I'm not sure. you know better or if you want to conduct a survey
Personally, I strongly prefer quality over quantity, meaning I'd rather have an update every three months if it fixes the only flaw
However, your own interest and the collective opinion matter

 

[catgameryt011]

Hi,
I don't dispute your comments at all. However, when doing "more" of something there will inevitably be a cost somewhere else. The sex scenes (at least for me) are the hardest and most time consuming bits and more renders means more time. There are two possible consequences:
The first is that the episodes have fewer events. Personally I think the episodes are already quite short (I can't physically produce any more renders in a month) so I don't really want to go down that road.
The second is that each episode takes longer to make. That is certainly a possibility, although I take pride in being one of the few devs giving monthly updates. Would readers be happy to wait, say, two months for each episode?

 

[PewPewMasterrrrr]

Two months would be fine with me, if it meant better sex scenes. You could probably pack in more scenes too. Or, if you don't want to add extra scenes, just do a 5-week release schedule, or whenever you think it's done.

Sticking to a firm schedule can win you a lot of points with some players. But it can often lead to frustration and burnout on the part of developers.

Agreed
I’m totally cool with every two months if it means the sex scenes are longer, more intense, and more rendered

 

[Kheram]

Agreed
I’m totally cool with every two months if it means the sex scenes are longer, more intense, and more rendered

Next will be 3 month is ok, and few iterations later you get an update once a year of highly detailed fabric touching event.

For me games are about story, story with choices, because without choices it is an illustrated book or a movie.
And some people want to turn games in to movies for reasons I don't understand.

 

[RuthlessSlayer]

Next will be 3 month is ok, and few iterations later you get an update once a year of highly detailed fabric touching event.

There’s no way it makes sense for an update to take more than 2 months. Because everything’s already working fine, except for the sex scenes being too short
So, what you’re saying doesn’t really add up

For me games are about story, story with choices, because without choices it is an illustrated book or a movie.
And some people want to turn games in to movies for reasons I don't understand.

I can confidently say that 90% of people who play “adult games” care a lot about the “adult” part. Otherwise, they’d just go read manga, which almost always has a better story
In an adult game, the story matters, yeah, but the relationships and sex scenes are just as important

 

[oldshoe]

Next will be 3 month is ok, and few iterations later you get an update once a year of highly detailed fabric touching event.

For me games are about story, story with choices, because without choices it is an illustrated book or a movie.
And some people want to turn games in to movies for reasons I don't understand.

I have a feeling this might be referencing another game . It's a difficult balance. I do like the tight release schedule but I would also welcome more detailed and lengthy sex scenes. Perhaps the compromise is every 2 months?

This team has a solid record of meeting the deadlines, my only concern would be that the extra time would release the pressure off them and things would not be twice as good. Most of us work better to tighter deadlines.

 

[Walter Victor]

Next will be 3 month is ok, and few iterations later you get an update once a year of highly detailed fabric touching event.

For me games are about story, story with choices, because without choices it is an illustrated book or a movie.
And some people want to turn games in to movies for reasons I don't understand.

While I understand your first paragraph, although I don't think it likely, I don't understand at all how your second paragraph relates. Why on earth would having a longer release cycle result in fewer choices?

 

[Craxyfoxxer]

Out of interest, which games are people saying have good sex scenes? Don’t mind the dev spending more time to deliver longer scenes but I wouldn’t want bunch of unnecessary bloat and animations.

 

[wildride69]

Any cheats to change love points? That sucks to have to start all over when starting and getting told u have negative love points game over

The built in CHEAT menu

 

[brokenone222]

The built in CHEAT menu
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Was answered a while ago for me if you keep looking through comments, but thanks lol

 

[atrebor68]

Your explanation is completely understandable and logical
So, you haven't prioritized quality over quantity or vice versa
Anyway, you prefer this style, and everyone has their own taste
Regarding your question, I'm not sure. you know better or if you want to conduct a survey
Personally, I strongly prefer quality over quantity, meaning I'd rather have an update every three months if it fixes the only flaw
However, your own interest and the collective opinion matter

I agree. If for a better story and a little enanched graphic he need two months, he has to take his time.
If slowburngames need an AI to write a very good spicy story, I have the resource for him.

 

[Kheram]

While I understand your first paragraph, although I don't think it likely, I don't understand at all how your second paragraph relates. Why on earth would having a longer release cycle result in fewer choices?

If said time spent on making more renders for sex scenes and not to make more scenes overall - you get twice less game per year.
Just like in some other ill known gawame, where you get 4 updates a year at best with almost zero story movement in past 2 years.

 

[Vessantia]

I'm happy with the current size and release schedule

 

[Walter Victor]

If said time spent on making more renders for sex scenes and not to make more scenes overall - you get twice less game per year.
Just like in some other ill known gawame, where you get 4 updates a year at best with almost zero story movement in past 2 years.

By your logic, the developer should eliminate all sex scenes. Then we might be able to have bi-weekly updates.

One thing I've noticed when polls are offered on Patreon, is that when the choice is between more content and early releases, more content wins hands down every single time.

The proposal here is to spend a few extra hours on sex scenes and produce the planned output for a day/release whenever it is ready.

One thing I would like to make clear: if the developer decides to keep things as they are, I will support him here as I have done in the past. It's his game, not mine or anyone else's.