Mod Ren'Py Universal Ren'Py Mod / URM [2.5] (mod any Ren'Py game yourself)

[Iamthegoldengod]

I play Renpy games on Android, but having recently updated to Android 14, I can no longer get access to the save files in the Android/data folder. I can no longer modify them, or copy them out for backing up. This is due to Google tightening up on file access.

Could you add a feature to URM to either specify an alternative save location or to copy all save files to another location?

This is going to be an increasing problem for most Android users, so this feature would be a life saver for us all!

Thanks

Hey friend, fellow androider here too and feel your pain. But don't worry I come with good news....

First, for me personally, I can't even access anything beyond android/data (Android 13) since I have no root. I can't install URM the normal way so I don't know how it will offer alternative saves if it can't be installed in first place for non-rooted users....luckily there's workarounds:

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[theMickey_]

...I tried the new version in Sorcerer, but it did not work (as in it works but it does not show any codes for choices, paths works fine though).

I don't think it doesn't show the code because of the way the game is coded. AFAIK URM isn't able to "look ahead" very far, and that's why. Here's an example from the very beginning of day 2:



If the code I've marked in red would be before the "jump" command, URM would detect (and show) it:



The only "fix" would be to tell URM to look farther into the code -- but then again, how far into the next labels should URM analyze the code?

 

[0x52]

I don't think it doesn't show the code because of the way the game is coded. AFAIK URM isn't able to "look ahead" very far, and that's why. Here's an example from the very beginning of day 2:

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If the code I've marked in red would be before the "jump" command, URM would detect (and show) it:

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The only "fix" would be to tell URM to look farther into the code -- but then again, how far into the next labels should URM analyze the code?

Thanks for looking into this.

So yes, URM will stop looking ahead for code once it encounters a jump/call, and report this jump/call under "next label".
Since in this case there's only a jump after the choice it will not report any code.

I think that stop looking for code once we detect a jump/call makes most sense, but maybe I will add a feature to show the "next label" code by clicking it?!

 

[FrankKappel]

Encrypted games dont work, for example Goodbye Eternity 0.8.1 - getting an archive error.
I bet because the game is encrypted inside one file.

 

[theMickey_]

...for example Goodbye Eternity 0.8.1...

Goodbye Eternity never worked, not only because it's encrypted, it also tries to prevent any game modification from being loaded at game start. And for this very game it doesn't really matter (anymore), as the developer RNGeusEX is going to switch the game engine from Ren'Py to Godot with the next update anyway.

I've seen a few games that are not encrypted but also try to circumvent any mods from being loaded using different techniques (i.e. changing Ren'Py code to tell python what kind of archives are to be loaded at start, or just deleting any file that're in the game directory but are not in a list of approved files etc.), and I don't think there will ever be a "one solution that fits all".

I'm not ensure if encryption in general is an issue when it comes to URM. I still need to find more encrypted games to test it. Goodby Eternity so far is the only one I stumbled upon.

I think that stop looking for code once we detect a jump/call makes most sense, but maybe I will add a feature to show the "next label" code by clicking it?!

Hm. I kinda like the idea, but on the other hand: how many games are doing it like that? I'd say the majority of games I've played are changing variables in the current label (or maybe I just didn't realize so far when game did it differently).

 

[metacuca]

URM 2.0 Bèta

thanks 0x52 wonderful job.

 

[Dr.Slime]

0x52 Thank you so much for this Mod It's so good that now i can't play any Renpy game without adding URM to it .
To check every option and edit values everything basically .

 

[harem.king]

I use this mod to give myself a billion money in every sandbox game (which is most of them).
So many hours of my life saved from being wasted.

 

[Anjomi]

Thanks for the detailed reply, but I do have access to android/data through Solid Explorer (it asks for permission for each folder) However, I can only create and delete files/folders, but not edit or copy/move ones created by Renpy. So I can install URM, but not edit or copy save files.

I have tried every workaround, but I suspect that Google has closed many of them in A14. It will get more difficult for each new release, hence my request for URM to build in a way to overcome it.

Thanks

Hey friend, fellow androider here too and feel your pain. But don't worry I come with good news....

First, for me personally, I can't even access anything beyond android/data (Android 13) since I have no root. I can't install URM the normal way so I don't know how it will offer alternative saves if it can't be installed in first place for non-rooted users....luckily there's workarounds:

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[Belzeebub$]

I can only create and delete files/folders, but not edit or copy/move ones created by Renpy

Have you tried joiplay. I dont believe, you wont be able to create folders(anywhere) in android 14. I personally use android 13 and am having no problems using joiplay. You have to create a separate folder for games (I do that, but it is not mandatory but systematic) and open the .exe from the game folder, it is easy.

 

[Iamthegoldengod]

Thanks for the detailed reply, but I do have access to android/data through Solid Explorer (it asks for permission for each folder) However, I can only create and delete files/folders, but not edit or copy/move ones created by Renpy. So I can install URM, but not edit or copy save files.

I have tried every workaround, but I suspect that Google has closed many of them in A14. It will get more difficult for each new release, hence my request for URM to build in a way to overcome it.

Thanks

Did you try the AOSP files trick? If you have, then the best workaround would be using Joiplay like me and Belzeebub suggested or sticking with unofficial ports since they offer alternative saves and almost all of them supported urm.

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[Belzeebub$]

android players make up a small minority and with the constant android security patches every month

I could not agree more and honestly, asking a modder to make an OS specific mod is torturing him. I am no coder/code savvy person but I think 0x52 has to work real hard for the mod as it is. We are (at least I am) grateful that he has done something that you can use universally for all renpy games. Since, you are android user I think you know there are so many other android games (non adult ones and of other platforms) and we have to wait for each of those games to be modded by some modder. Here, we can play any renpy game with this one single mod (most of them anyways) so, we do not have to wait for this mod to be updated to play that game. I have played like 100s or maybe 500s even games in this renpy platform and believe me before I came across this magic I had to wait for months (even more sometimes) for playing that game. One single example is Where the Heart is. People who played that knows how many times so many modders modded that game. Even in the last update it was updated after almost 3 months. I can go on about more other stuff about URM but it would be too much long. Lastly, sorry for this long message. What I mean to say is we should be grateful and be satisfied with what we get, we are taking it for granted that someone is working their ass off for us (most of whom are freeloaders) for nothing. We know how hard every work is in this world and how costly they are. Donot demand anything which is far fetched and much difficult. Finally (I swear this is final) I wish everyone a very happy and prosperous New Year in advance. Donot be offended by any of my words, I just donot mean ill of anyone, also sometimes curiousity gets the best of me and I ask for ETA of the next update. I apologise for that too. Thanks for humoring me.

 

[Anjomi]

OK, calm down everybody, I was just asking for a feature. If the dev doesn't think it's a priority then no complaints from me.

As you've pointed out Joiplay does work as it doesn't save anything to android/data.

Thanks, and gave a great 2024

I could not agree more and honestly, asking a modder to make an OS specific mod is torturing him. I am no coder/code savvy person but I think 0x52 has to work real hard for the mod as it is. We are (at least I am) grateful that he has done something that you can use universally for all renpy games. Since, you are android user I think you know there are so many other android games (non adult ones and of other platforms) and we have to wait for each of those games to be modded by some modder. Here, we can play any renpy game with this one single mod (most of them anyways) so, we do not have to wait for this mod to be updated to play that game. I have played like 100s or maybe 500s even games in this renpy platform and believe me before I came across this magic I had to wait for months (even more sometimes) for playing that game. One single example is Where the Heart is. People who played that knows how many times so many modders modded that game. Even in the last update it was updated after almost 3 months. I can go on about more other stuff about URM but it would be too much long. Lastly, sorry for this long message. What I mean to say is we should be grateful and be satisfied with what we get, we are taking it for granted that someone is working their ass off for us (most of whom are freeloaders) for nothing. We know how hard every work is in this world and how costly they are. Donot demand anything which is far fetched and much difficult. Finally (I swear this is final) I wish everyone a very happy and prosperous New Year in advance. Donot be offended by any of my words, I just donot mean ill of anyone, also sometimes curiousity gets the best of me and I ask for ETA of the next update. I apologise for that too. Thanks for humoring me.

 

[_user]

The update looks good.
An option to automatically open the choice dialogue on detecting a path would be great.

 

[ouch2020]

0x52 Any possibility to look at that request of having the variables in the watch list being shown ordered alphabetically (in the watch list panel) ?
Yes, I know you are doing a great job for free (well, aside some "coffee" from time to time), and cannot satisfy all the requests from everybody, just wanted to be sure that request had not disappeared from the list of possibilities.
By the way, have a great end of 2023 and start of 2024 !

 

[0x52]

Just published URM 2.0.1 bèta. This fixes some issues that URM 2.0 has with Ren'Py 7.5+ and 8.0+ games.
You can get the new bèta

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Also... if you're using the bèta and experience any issues, don't hesitate to report them.

 

[theMickey_]

Happy new year 0x52, and thanks for the update! And no, I haven't found any issues so far, but rest assured -- I will do report bugs if I find them

 

[tania]

Is it possible, in the Variables window create a column after the value one with option of "description" that we can edit and type anything in front of the variable we found because so many variables have code names like "rLM" and "NFpth" and at the end of day we cant remember what that variable is for!
I dont know if using the option to edit the name of variable with corrupt the game scrypt

 

[Tiur]

Is it possible, in the Variables window create a column after the value one with option of "description" that we can edit and type anything in front of the variable we found because so many variables have code names like "rLM" and "NFpth" and at the end of day we cant remember what that variable is for!
I dont know if using the option to edit the name os variable with corrupt the game crypt

When you flag a variable to remember, you can edit the name listed in URM without changing the variable itself in the game. For games where the varnames are confusing or nondescript, I rename them all the time to things like "Naomi (N_pts)" or "Anna (Cousin) Corruption (Ccor)" or things like that on the URM vars page, keeping the original var name in parentheses.

 

[tania]

When you flag a variable to remember, you can edit the name listed in URM without changing the variable itself in the game. For games where the varnames are confusing or nondescript, I rename them all the time to things like "Naomi (N_pts)" or "Anna (Cousin) Corruption (Ccor)" or things like that on the URM vars page, keeping the original var name in parentheses.

But that will change the code of the variable, do the game work normally? bacause you just change the variable name, can the game call the correct variable?