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Another choice that you might think has a consequence by now but doesn't at all (to date). On this one I decided to take a look at the pdf (fwiw) which marks the second as "good" but none of these do shit yet, not dialogue differences, not anything. Maybe me pointing this out will push this ball forward a little too.
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Huh, I wonder if he reworked the Ashley scenes making this choice irrelevant... I'm pretty sure that at one point you needed to choose "smart" here in order to get a good outcome. Basically, she knows she's pretty and she desperately wants to be popular, so the way to get her attention is to play to her vanity about her intelligence. I think it was an alternative path to "tricking her". At some point, he lowered point counts for a bunch of options. Maybe he nerfed this interaction when he made tricking her easier? :unsure: Weird...
 

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Huh, I wonder if he reworked the Ashley scenes making this choice irrelevant... I'm pretty sure that at one point you needed to choose "smart" here in order to get a good outcome. Basically, she knows she's pretty and she desperately wants to be popular, so the way to get her attention is to play to her vanity about her intelligence. I think it was an alternative path to "tricking her". At some point, he lowered point counts for a bunch of options. Maybe he nerfed this interaction when he made tricking her easier? :unsure: Weird...
I found it odd too. the next choice is certainly relevant though:
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Well, that's a bit better than having 932 "legit"'s in a game.
Ohh, come on, that's lowkey..... or was it highkey.....:whistle:

I'm back at it so I hope it won't be too long. I understand that "be too long" is relative but that's the best I can give you currently.
Give yourself all the time in the world.
I know it's going to be good and that's the main thing, plus I have dozens of other games to catch up on.
So I can easily wait a bit here.
 

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Hey guys I'm playing this game on Android and I have a problem when I try to access to the extra scenes, I have this error message "an exception has occurred", is that any solution to fix that ? Thanks
 

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Good evening folks. After much debate I've decided to enable split scenes periodically via the ChoiceGuide. The issue why I don't generally do this within SanchoMod is not because it's difficult to code (it's quite easy as long as the coder pays proper attention to all variables and scene sends/returns), it's because the dev's intended storyflow can quickly and easily be broken (which I'm not a fan of at all). As a general rule my mods never interfere with the dev's intended story in any way (galleries and extras don't count of course) but rather supplement GUI and user selectable features to the VN. Sometimes I make exception (a nod to SM OffTheRecord mod). In it's use here there is choice, as always, so that it's on the player's discretion and ample warning is provided.

Will this completely fuck up certain stats that wouldn't otherwise be possible during normal pure/un-cheated gameplay? Yep, for sure and without any doubt. That's why I don't normally do this although it's requested constantly in my mods. Regarding this VN I don't feel quite as much confliction since the developer has provided the player with a way to cheat variables directly.... so the possibility of the player fucking up "normal story flow variable stats" is a thing already. This is just a bit more fuel on that bonfire so to speak.

Teasers with feature set off/on:

With ChoiceGuide toggled off:
UOP SM B04f2d1b.jpg UOP SM B04f2d2b.jpg UOP SM B04f2d3b.jpg

With ChoiceGuide toggled on:
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Anyway, I'm back to it. Regards.
 

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Good afternoon y'all. I've another one for you to check out. (Another wall of text to fully explain the feature, please skip this post if you don't give a damn about the mod by all means).

Sancho ChoiceChange. I'll spoiler code the following just in case but here's the layup for this example: In this example we have Rachel's return from her friends party in U6 which plays differently depending on how you went about the situation with her ex in U4. I found myself coming to choices like this and thought others might have as well thinking "damn, maybe I should have done that differently" and you would normally have to reload an old save and speed run through to the point of return... a PITA for some so I coded an efficient solution if the player wishes to implement it.

Here is her prepared departure before both scenarios and the newly introduced menu right before the MC calls her to see if she's ready to be picked up (if the ChoiceGuide is enabled, otherwise you never see this modded choice/screen). So you remember the result of the previous choice for the sake of this explanation: the U4 choice changes this to either RachelDrunk or RachelMassage among other things including Sasha. Note there's a choice to bypass this completely by simply selecting "Keep my original choice" which bypasses this mod feature completely:
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Assuming that the player might or might not want to change their choice but needs a refresher what that choice was, the mod takes you to a "flashback" type of replay. Now, to insure the player knows that we are in a "flashback" there's a notification banner that's displayed during the entire event so there's no mistake where the player is:
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Now to the menu where the choice can be changed. Note that ONLY the event choice is changed regardless of selection. None of the other possible variables are changed at all, the player made that choice during the initial playthrough so I drew the line there as the intent here was only to change the event, period. There's also a new choice added to only this "flashback" so if the player realizes that they are fine with whatever they originally chose (the choice tells them in the note) then they can completely skip this routine just like in the second pic of this post (bypasses the mod feature completely).
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Whatever is chosen (and after any chosen "flashback" scene is completed) the player is returned to the original playthrough where this feature started and can move forward with the story. Note that the notification banner is gone informing the player they are no longer in "flashback".
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Disclosure: Now, will this possibly null your choice with Sasha if you picked "a certain item to be resolved" due to the original U4 choice made? Yes but if you want 100% pure play then simply reload an old save to begin with as there's always going to be a potential of fubar using shortcuts like this. The only way I can make it 100% bullet proof is with a completed VN with all known outcomes.

Finally, is this all a bit overboard (similar to the post above this one) for this type of modded task? Yes, but the point is to keep the player informed of what the mod is doing and to be confident that it's not just some thrown together hack garbage that they may not be able to rely on. SanchoMod has your back but only if you need it, otherwise it's completely out of your way. As always it's about how you, the player, wishes to consume the content and not up to the modder to dictate how you should play.

I hope that all makes sense. I'm in a mode right now so I'm going to get back to it while inspiration is flowing. Regards.
 
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SanchoMod feature update

Good evening folks. After much debate I've decided to enable split scenes periodically via the ChoiceGuide. The issue why I don't generally do this within SanchoMod is not because it's difficult to code (it's quite easy as long as the coder pays proper attention to all variables and scene sends/returns), it's because the dev's intended storyflow can quickly and easily be broken (which I'm not a fan of at all). As a general rule my mods never interfere with the dev's intended story in any way (galleries and extras don't count of course) but rather supplement GUI and user selectable features to the VN. Sometimes I make exception (a nod to SM OffTheRecord mod). In it's use here there is choice, as always, so that it's on the player's discretion and ample warning is provided.

Will this completely fuck up certain stats that wouldn't otherwise be possible during normal pure/un-cheated gameplay? Yep, for sure and without any doubt. That's why I don't normally do this although it's requested constantly in my mods. Regarding this VN I don't feel quite as much confliction since the developer has provided the player with a way to cheat variables directly.... so the possibility of the player fucking up "normal story flow variable stats" is a thing already. This is just a bit more fuel on that bonfire so to speak.

Teasers with feature set off/on:

Anyway, I'm back to it. Regards.
1st would like to say that i hope that public will see this mod and not just your selected few
and thats the thing with mod, to give you option to see all in one run or not if thats what person want, thats what makes mod best out of choces if there are, so far there arent any. myself prefer to do game in 1 run not fan of replaying at least in same time.
and for now am still waiting last version that have played is 0.5.5 and i really do hope you are not just teasing everyone who are waiting with it (just saying) and ill wait till proper mod is available, i do appreciate in general that you are trying to make saves comparable after your mods, to if you will go this way you will have to stick with game or make way out if you choose so.
just my cent
 

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and for now am still waiting last version that have played is 0.5.5
I'm 100% done thru v0.6.0 so hopefully won't be long (I previously had played only thru v0.5.0 myself before updating the mod back in October before "issues" came up).
and i really do hope you are not just teasing everyone who are waiting with it (just saying)
That would be completely shitty of me and the very opposite of my style as anyone that follows my work knows. I've never failed at being either 100% transparent through my process nor delivering a professionally coded product if I said I would. The issues I have for not publishing this mod publicly previously have been aired both here and in the other mod's thread extensively and are publicly available for review. Everyone should be aware of the "issues" that I have concern with and I admit it made me stop working on this mod ~3 months ago, but I'm doing this for you folks and myself to prove a point. If my work suddenly appears where it shouldn't then everything's fully documented and we'll all know who is who, and I'll leave it at that.
just my cent
I respect and appreciate your input, sincerely. I assure you this is no half-ass hack mod and will be (at a minimum) on par with previous SanchoMod releases. I always set the bar high and if I don't feel I meet it then I don't release. It's that simple really. I'm either all in or all out and I hope you can see from my exhaustive posts where I'm at with this.

Regards.
 

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This is easily one of the better written pornographic visual novels out there. Your choices actually matter and have real impact beyond whether you get a sex scene or not.

Also, why would anyone want to deal with Roxy, lol? I don't care how "hot" you are; if all you do is act like a bitch and try to provoke me, I won't want anything to do with you. She acts all offended if you turn her down... like what did she expect? I do like how the game later reminds you that she's still around but that the two of you simply don't interact anymore. (She doesn't just disappear from the game/story but you aren't forced to keep dealing with her.)
 
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This is easily one of the better written pornographic visual novels out there. Your choices actually matter and have real impact beyond whether you get a sex scene or not.

Also, why would anyone want to deal with Roxy, lol? I don't care how "hot" you are; if all you do is act like a bitch and try to provoke me, I won't want anything to do with you. I like how she acts all offended if you turn her down... like what did she expect? I do like how the game later reminds you that she's still around but that the two of you simply don't interact anymore. (She doesn't just disappear from the game/story but you aren't forced to keep dealing with her.)
Are we playing the same game? What you described isn't Roxy. Natalie, maybe. But, Roxy? Nope.
 
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This is easily one of the better written pornographic visual novels out there. Your choices actually matter and have real impact beyond whether you get a sex scene or not.

Also, why would anyone want to deal with Roxy, lol? I don't care how "hot" you are; if all you do is act like a bitch and try to provoke me, I won't want anything to do with you. She acts all offended if you turn her down... like what did she expect? I do like how the game later reminds you that she's still around but that the two of you simply don't interact anymore. (She doesn't just disappear from the game/story but you aren't forced to keep dealing with her.)
bro, I'll tell you something, not only for the game but for life, a person is not always just what they show, what they show to the other in a short period of time, for you to know the person completely and know who they are is in every way, expect to live with her for a long time, be part of her life, be interested in her completely, at all times, talk a lot, because without conversation, no relationship lasts, no matter the oaths and people around, that being said, Roxy may seem at first to be a cold person, without feelings, who doesn't care about anything or anyone, but when we think about it, we forget the most important thing: She is human, that is, of course they have feelings and cares about things and people, she just wouldn't have feelings if she suffered from psychopathy, which is not the case, she has this shell on her as a way to feel strong, confident, but give her a chance for this one shell break and she reveal what an amazing woman q what's in there






There's a quote that I really like that goes like this: Only the bravest explorers discover the most valuable treasures


Discover this treasure called Roxy, you will see that the adventure, however tense it was, was worth it
 

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Are we playing the same game? What you described isn't Roxy. Natalie, maybe. But, Roxy? Nope.
Roxy for life w/ Sara in the kitchen (you know she's perfect "wifey" material). Just sayin'. And Ashley can kiss my ass, IRL I'd never give her the time of day.

Every time I see Roxy I hear this: View attachment Roxy.mp3
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Roxy for life w/ Sara in the kitchen (you know she's perfect "wifey" material). Just sayin'. And Ashley can kiss my ass, IRL I'd never give her the time of day.

Every time I see Roxy I hear this: View attachment 1609891
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Just Roxy for me. Maybe the teacher. But, that's pushing it.
 

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Yeah yeah, I get it. To each their own and such. I've never been a fan of the "hard on the outside, soft on the inside" characters in general with few exceptions. I feel the same about "tsundere" characters... I find them universally INSUFFERABLE but I know they have their fanbase.
 

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Yeah yeah, I get it. To each their own and such. I've never been a fan of the "hard on the outside, soft on the inside" characters in general with few exceptions. I feel the same about "tsundere" characters... I find them universally INSUFFERABLE but I know they have their fanbase.
No issue here brother, everyone has their thing. Good thing regarding this VN is for the softer inside and out you have options right? Sara, Rachel, Carol (sorta), etc. Actually I'm solid down with either or both Sara/Rachel...tbh I want a proper shot at that Mallory too :)
 
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