lorddarkam

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Re harem route. I read your comment in the Developer's Notes concerning the harem route and how you are trying to keep things as realistic as possible. I can't speak for anyone else, but from my own personal perspective, I don't look for realism in these VN's, I'm here for escapism. So I would just ask that in developing a harem route, if you should choose to do so (please), don't be too concerned with realism.
yeah, reality already want me to cook myself i just want to fap for a few minutes in the game

but if this was a 1 girl choice i would choose Roxy cuz she is the one who need the mc the most (yeah i have trust problems) and the way she like to do things being such a sub, she is going to be cooked if she get in wrong hands as we have proof already, even worse if she is a sub who like to act as if she is badass she will only land into very shit places to be

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Also man we can't even fuck Ivy this is so evil from the dev
 
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TomamoNoku

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Personally, I don't see much in Sasha's path unless you're into the light (so far) femdom. It looks like some harem stuff is getting set up regardless, so I'm not sure if being on a Sasha path would make too much difference. A lot still remains to be seen though - it could be that Sasha brings in some girls who would otherwise have been reluctant, however she would manage that...
If there is a harem route without Sasha, then at the very least the harem route with her will bring Sasha herself and Alyssa into the harem, otherwise it wouldn't be worth it.
 
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If there is a harem route without Sasha, then at the very least the harem route with her will bring Sasha and Alyssa into the harem, otherwise it wouldn't be worth it.
I'd say that's fair. I can't see how you would have two routes to it and somehow one of them is "easier" because it's Sasha pulling some strings. She does sound like she wants to be in charge of it though, so will be interesting to see what that means for the usual harem dynamic. Obviously mostly speculation at the moment though...
 

Charroumane

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Personally, despite several attempted paths, I do not adhere to the philosophy of the game which forces you to undergo events and shamelessly deceive girls like that while giving the impression that the MC is nice. At one point it becomes perverse and it is not in the style of AVN. There are simple solutions to remedy this: a clear harem route and give the MC the possibility at several moments to freely choose who he wants to continue to pursue or not. At this point it becomes ridiculous and spoils the fun of the game.
 
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Personally, despite several attempted paths, I do not adhere to the philosophy of the game which forces you to undergo events and shamelessly deceive girls like that while giving the impression that the MC is nice. At one point it becomes perverse and it is not in the style of AVN. There are simple solutions to remedy this: a clear harem route and give the MC the possibility at several moments to freely choose who he wants to continue to pursue or not. At this point it becomes ridiculous and spoils the fun of the game.
I assume you mean it's not in the style of this AVN, since there are plenty of them that do make use of this very thing (deception, etc.). Also, what you describe is only for a harem player; while DreamNow has said they'll try to get a harem route in the game, I don't believe this game was set up to be a harem in the beginning. Either way, though, some players do not like harems, and this is absolutely not a strictly harem game. So having the other options makes sense, such as if you're pursuing neither Ashley nor Sara. In general, to each their own.

Anyway, now that I've made it clear (as does the walkthrough) that having sex with Ivy will wreck relations with Ashley and Sara, just don't pick that if that's a problem for you. Ivy was never the type to be part of the MC's harem anyway; she sleeps around a lot (clearly, as the "grand prize" at the party) and would never commit to the MC completely.
 

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Je suppose que tu veux dire que ce n'est pas dans le style de cet AVN, car il y en a beaucoup qui utilisent cette même chose (tromperie, etc.). De plus, ce que tu décris ne concerne que les joueurs de harem ; bien que DreamNow ait dit qu'ils essaieraient d'obtenir une voie de harem dans le jeu, je ne crois pas que ce jeu ait été conçu pour être un harem au départ. Quoi qu'il en soit, certains joueurs n'aiment pas les harems, et ce n'est absolument pas un jeu de harem stricto sensu. Il est donc logique d'avoir les autres options, par exemple si vous ne recherchez ni Ashley ni Sara. En général, à chacun son truc.

Bref, maintenant que j'ai bien précisé (comme le fait la procédure pas à pas) qu'avoir des relations sexuelles avec Ivy ruinerait les relations avec Ashley et Sara, ne choisissez pas cette option si c'est un problème pour vous. Ivy n'a jamais été du genre à faire partie du harem du MC de toute façon ; elle couche beaucoup à droite et à gauche (clairement, en tant que "grand prix" de la fête) et ne s'engagerait jamais complètement avec le MC.
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Thanks for your answer ^^

In fact I am not at all turned Harem on the contrary, I tried to make courses only turned towards 1 LI: either Rachel, or Roxy or Carol or Ashley, and despite my attempts I always find myself having several advanced relationships with them without being able (except Rachel who at one point suggests ending their relationship) to benefit from the possibility with the MC to control this: namely to voluntarily stop a relationship before it goes too far. It's a shame, I obviously accept it, but it's extremely frustrating to see that at no time can the MC act on this.
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Personally, despite several attempted paths, I do not adhere to the philosophy of the game which forces you to undergo events and shamelessly deceive girls like that while giving the impression that the MC is nice.
You can call me a cheating bastard but I find it hot. When I was young I could date three girls at the time. Managing to keep them apart was additional thrill. I may be not be the nicest person in the world but at least nobody got hurt and also there are kinks much worse then this. :cool:
Actually I tried to give each of them as much of my love as I could.

So, I can easily identify with the MC. The only problem that the circumstances he manages to do it under aren't realistic in this game. But that's just a game.
 

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In fact I am not at all turned Harem on the contrary, I tried to make courses only turned towards 1 LI: either Rachel, or Roxy or Carol or Ashley, and despite my attempts I always find myself having several advanced relationships with them without being able (except Rachel who at one point suggests ending their relationship) to benefit from the possibility with the MC to control this: namely to voluntarily stop a relationship before it goes too far. It's a shame, I obviously accept it, but it's extremely frustrating to see that at no time can the MC act on this.
That's all on you and your choices.

I set up separate paths for all the LIs I liked back before Dev suggested harem was a possibility (I decided since I'd already done it, I'd keep the paths separate and see how they turned out).

For example, on my Carol path I have not been with anyone else at all (except Sasha, but that was for a reason).

I even had a path where I was with no one (except a night with Ivy, by MY choice), that I kept clear until Lexi.

My other paths like Ashley and Nikki are completely faithful.

On all my paths I was with no one except my chosen LI for that path (except a couple of choices that I chose to do, I could have turned them down).

If you're trying to stay faithful to 1 girl and failing. You're making the wrong choices.
 
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That's all on you and your choices.

I set up separate paths for all the LIs I liked back before Dev suggested harem was a possibility (I decided since I'd already done it, I'd keep the paths separate and see how they turned out).

For example, on my Carol path I have not been with anyone else at all (except Sasha, but that was for a reason).

I even had a path where I was with no one (except a night with Ivy, by MY choice), that I kept clear until Lexi.

My other paths like Ashley and Nikki are completely faithful.

On all my paths I was with no one except my chosen LI for that path (except a couple of choices that I chose to do, I could have turned them down).

If you're trying to stay faithful to 1 girl and failing. You're making the wrong choices.
Charroumane, are you following the walkthrough that is provided with the game? If you are trying to end certain relationships and don't seem to manage doing so, maybe something in the walkthrough can help you. You will note, for example, that you can do and/or say things that give no points to affection, or that even make you lose points. If you don't want a girl to stay with the MC, turn down any offers for kisses, sex, etc., and then also be sure to keep affection points low. At a certain point, if the MC makes a certain choice while a girl also has a low affection score, she will stop spending time with him. With how this game is set up, it should be easier to break things off with a girl than it is to have a harem.
 
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Beduin123

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Charroumane, are you following the walkthrough that is provided with the game? If you are trying to end certain relationships and don't seem to manage doing so, maybe something in the walkthrough can help you. You will note, for example, that you can do and/or say things that give no points to affection, or that even make you lose points. If you don't want a girl to stay with the MC, turn down any offers for kisses, sex, etc., and then also be sure to keep affection points low. At a certain point, if the MC makes a certain choice while a girl also has a low affection score, she will stop spending time with him. With how this game is set up, it should be easier to break things off with a girl than it is to have a harem.
Actually, when I first played this game (it was my very first AVN and still one of the favorite) I didn't have a playthrough so I managed to get Ashley on board only after three attempts. Also I lost Rachel at some point. So, you are absolutely correct, it is very easy to lose some of the LIs in this game. It is not one of those dumb harem games where all LIs just throw themselves at you without much work on your part.
 
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I'm also having this issue. 1.5.5 Extended is not loading at all for me.
Are you getting an error message? Did you use a mod previously which is no longer being used? The only issue I've seen people have with it not loading is because they used the SanchoMod that is no longer updated. The error message has a bunch of "OOO000OO0OO" type stuff in it, which is the marker that denotes it as Sancho's work. If that's your issue, you can either start from scratch with a fresh save, or you need to get the save fixer from the mod thread's OP and put that in the folder of every update going forward.
 

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Are you getting an error message? Did you use a mod previously which is no longer being used? The only issue I've seen people have with it not loading is because they used the SanchoMod that is no longer updated. The error message has a bunch of "OOO000OO0OO" type stuff in it, which is the marker that denotes it as Sancho's work. If that's your issue, you can either start from scratch with a fresh save, or you need to get the save fixer from the mod thread's OP and put that in the folder of every update going forward.
I'm not getting any error message as nothing happens when I click on the application (even as Administrator.) I started fresh with no mod and also with MurrayMods mod. I realise the saves in the AppData Roaming folder might be interfering as they had Sancho's mod so I deleted those and restarted my PC. Still nothing. Nothing happens when I try to launch the game.
 
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