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It certainly has potential and I like the premise but it seems like miraia's scene isn't working or triggering the prompt in wherever it is supposed to happen. Otherwise I'm certainly interested in it and hope we get more story and characters in the future, believe that one of the conversations implies that not all of the team is present and some are on missions. The dating sim styled go to this room and interact with this person to raise affection or trigger a scene isn't bad but I do hope that's not all we'll get considering the interesting story premise. Lastly I think you should add some sort of End of current content for this character in the journal for each one, as it stands I'm not sure how many scenes are even in this initial release but after spending some time raising someone's affection after their first scene I decided to assume each only has one (one broken scene in the case of Miraia). In any case the note I want to end it on is that I like the premise so far, wish you luck with it's development, and hope we'll be seeing more updates out of this project (it's an unfortunate thing that a number of decent or interesting games end up abandoned after the first few updates)
 

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I dont even know why devs make something optional if it is a big part of their game. I can see if its like a harem game where 1 out of 15 love interests is futa, but this game seems to be pretty futa heavy. why would you want to play a game where you have to block a good portion of the content. I dont play any game that has ntr as a major component, even if its toggleable. i gotta wait twice as long for half an update.

I feel like devs want to cater to a lot of people to get their game off the ground. if you wanna make a futa game, make it.
I made it this way because I have friends who want to play it but aren't into futa, and others I'm sure feel the same. You're not going to wait twice as long for an update.

Every update is planned to have one futa animation and one non futa animation.

I'd appreciate if you don't assume to know how I'll update before there's even been an update.
 
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Why would you think someone that does not like a genre would download and play it to see that it is optional? That just makes no sense. The Op should of put futa optional in the genre or description as that is why there is one there to avoid downloading something you won't like.
I didn't know there even is a futa optional genre, so I'll update that, thanks.
 

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I've updated the page to state that futa is completely optional, as well as clarify Nathan is not underage, he is just small and the girls are big.
 
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It certainly has potential and I like the premise but it seems like miraia's scene isn't working or triggering the prompt in wherever it is supposed to happen. Otherwise I'm certainly interested in it and hope we get more story and characters in the future, believe that one of the conversations implies that not all of the team is present and some are on missions. The dating sim styled go to this room and interact with this person to raise affection or trigger a scene isn't bad but I do hope that's not all we'll get considering the interesting story premise. Lastly I think you should add some sort of End of current content for this character in the journal for each one, as it stands I'm not sure how many scenes are even in this initial release but after spending some time raising someone's affection after their first scene I decided to assume each only has one (one broken scene in the case of Miraia). In any case the note I want to end it on is that I like the premise so far, wish you luck with it's development, and hope we'll be seeing more updates out of this project (it's an unfortunate thing that a number of decent or interesting games end up abandoned after the first few updates)
Glad you're liking it. Miraia's scene is indeed broken, I plan to fix that soon. As for the characters, there are more characters who aren't home right now and each character has one scene. As for the end of current content thing, I plan to do that as well thanks to people bringing it up.

I don't plan to drop the game anytime soon, so if everything goes well it will be getting updates for a long time to come.
 
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  • Right off the bat, this feels like it was pretty heavily inspired by Monster Girl Quest in terms of plot/story. Not a bad thing though, MGQ is probably my all-time favorite h-game.
  • The detail about all women being futas (and just being able to hide their penis with magic or whatever) has me intrigued... there's some of the girls who have their cock out all the time, so if futa content is enabled it's easy to assume that most (if not all) of their scenes will be futa-on-male. My question is, what's it gonna look like for the girls who don't have their dicks out all the time? I'm pretty much only interested in seeing the futa-on-male content, so I'm hoping there's a fair spread of it for the other girls as well.
  • No use in complaining about the lack of content, since it's a first release and that's been addressed in the thread already. I will say that it might've been a good idea to include at least one scene with proper sexual content, to let players know what to expect from future releases.
I made it this way because I have friends who want to play it but aren't into futa, and others I'm sure feel the same. You're not going to wait twice as long for an update.

Every update is planned to have one futa animation and one non futa animation.

I'd appreciate if you don't assume to know how I'll update before there's even been an update.
There's a fair response here, but I think it's important to consider that this site hasn't had the best track record when it comes to "two version games." There's been enough instances of devs working on trying to make the same game for different audiences and having to stop production of one or both versions, becoming extremely burnt out on the game itself, etc.; only natural that people are going to be wary of another game promising the same.
 

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  • Right off the bat, this feels like it was pretty heavily inspired by Monster Girl Quest in terms of plot/story. Not a bad thing though, MGQ is probably my all-time favorite h-game.
  • The detail about all women being futas (and just being able to hide their penis with magic or whatever) has me intrigued... there's some of the girls who have their cock out all the time, so if futa content is enabled it's easy to assume that most (if not all) of their scenes will be futa-on-male. My question is, what's it gonna look like for the girls who don't have their dicks out all the time? I'm pretty much only interested in seeing the futa-on-male content, so I'm hoping there's a fair spread of it for the other girls as well.
  • No use in complaining about the lack of content, since it's a first release and that's been addressed in the thread already. I will say that it might've been a good idea to include at least one scene with proper sexual content, to let players know what to expect from future releases.

There's a fair response here, but I think it's important to consider that this site hasn't had the best track record when it comes to "two version games." There's been enough instances of devs working on trying to make the same game for different audiences and having to stop production of one or both versions, becoming extremely burnt out on the game itself, etc.; only natural that people are going to be wary of another game promising the same.
Thanks for taking the time to write this out. Plot-wise, it is heavily inspired by MGQ as it's also my all-time favorite h-game, though I don't plan to copy it 1 for 1; all I'll say is the angels probably aren't genocidal maniacs with no reason beyond hating everyone who isn't them.

For the women all being futas, while some don't have it hanging out all the time, they will all have futa on male content of some kind, as well as non futa content. The main reason I have for this is I'm not the hugest fan of male on futa. While I don't mind it, it doesn't really do anything for me, so this way I can have them not have their penis out during scenes where the protagonist is doing them instead of the other way around.

For the last point I admit I was much more aggressive than I should have been in defending my work ethic. I didn't really consider the track record other games had on here that would cause people to worry the same would happen here. I did say this on itch but I should also say it here; I'm going to try to keep the game as futa optional but that depends on if there's even any real desire for it to be optional and if that inflates the size of the game too much, as I don't know if it costs money to get more than 1gb of space on itch.io for a game.

As an example, one ten second clip of an animation can be between 1 to 3mb before I edit it with sfx and convert it to a format renpy can use, which increases the size further. While that isn't a lot, if I have five of those for each scene due to speeds, orgasm, angles etc, it adds up very quickly. Before I deleted the majority of test animations in the game, it was too large to post on itch.

So even though I want to keep the futa optional version going, I may not be able to simply because of size constraints, so worrying about it being slowed by this may be a moot point.
 
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This game shows real promise!

Both flavors are doable for me in this game, I wouldn't mind the futa route being very mixed, possible that you can view both scenes. Both routes will likely have it's own styles, so there's a reason to play both.

I do suggest adding missions where the MC is trained for undercover missions, where he infiltrate enemy places, like brothels, auctions, slave camps, prisons and such things (like trying to find specific or groups of people, evidence or some important tool for another mission), along with IF-endings if he gets captured. The allies he have at the base, could prepare and train him for the mission, also training him in obedience, to get certain results from the mission.

Another hot factor would be to with the above in mind, that the allies at the base or in other locations too, force the MC to war female underwear and clothes, where they hunt and catch the MC in the mansion and then rip of his clothes, to force him into female clothes. They could in the end remove all his male clothes and clothes/underwear could be all from cute, cool or stylish, where the allies force him to wear clothes/underwear to their liking, like forcefully changing his clothes when he wakes up in some scenes.

They could also visit towns in women clothes (by force, due to the MC being captured by enemies for being male, through some sleep drug in food/drink or special spell.), to avoid having the MC being captured and he could be molested (some scenes could have them molesters, women/futa find out by molesting that he's male and threatens to expose him if he doesn't remain silent, like when others walk past or speak with him, the allies could do similar things to him, to dominate him outside of the base). He could also be molested in his male clothes, where he isn't allowed to be found out, being stripped of his pants or all his clothes, and then raped, trying to keep silent, or as a cover, could also be done by allies during a mission.

Also if the MC visit areas in male or female clothes, different enemies or scenes could occur, but this would be more suitable on re-playable missions, with a gallery.

This could be resisted, other than mission demands, it could be wagers of a bet or the MC taking responsibility and being a bit tricked into "taking his mission seriously".

They could also forcefully enlarge his breasts (possible to change sizes, in this game they would likely look better as a bit on the smaller size or possible somewhat larger to mid size, but not massive due to potions, which after certain hours decrease the size of breasts), possible make his breasts leak breastmilk, as in an infiltration mission where human women are kept as breading stock for monsters or angels. The story points out that males are being captured, but women could be to, also as in being converted into monsters or angels, possible brainwashed.

Wording like: "I wouldn't call it body modification, if it wasn't permanent", a wonderful line from the nadeskicko series or however you spell those tentacle games. This would fit wonderful to breast enlargement, possible creation of a vagina on the MC. The girls could humiliate the MC with a drug that shrink the MC's dick for a while or day and put his dick in a cage, which later proves useful for a mission, where he's to infiltrate's some place like a slavers camp/auction or something similar, being sold by the girls for cover story.


The MC could have several different scenes as being captured and be treated as livestock in different form to milk him on sperm or possible breastmilk, possible also as in a way to extract his hero-powers, or as breedingstock to create powerful offspring.

The MC looks like a woman, so could have to infiltrate as a woman and be trained by his allies to serve, as in being dominated, trained, spanked and disciplined

When routes gets transformed to pure love and vanilla sex, even when it comes with futa on male, it can be a bit boring. I tried to play GirlsGirlsGirls, but it was kind of lacking, especially in the content of "femdom senes"/maledom.

Alice seems to be girl who's going to have sweet scenes, but I wouldn't mind if you could set on how she would act in a scene, some might want a vanilla scene.., while some others would like her to get dominant and share the MC with her friend. Or that she figures out what the MC "prefers" by some questions.

The MC could be told that this is training for missions, as he's lacking in undercover abilities, to save victims.


Also, both spanking and pet play/training always works well in these games, as if the girls get dirt on the MC, so he can't resist them. Or that the MC loses contest, in fields that he can't just win or as payment for making certain mistakes on mission or creating issues. You can then select to make the mistake or not in the mission, or like if the MC gets interested or obsessed with some tool or thing, like a collar, whip, penis cage or get turned on by it or different scenes and that the girls notice it and use it as blackmail to dominate him.

The MC could be completely inexperienced in regard to sexual relationships and be by the enemy or an ally, molested and comes in his panties, not understanding what it's and being told that grown-up doesn't wet themselves and then gets a spanking either on the spot or at the base.


And again, don't make the futa route close to pure futa, vaginas are very attractive when it comes to female domination, especially when there's several women involved. Instead of they all having their dicks out, possible erected, they might not all show their dicks, before it's time to use.

Also have their be a female transformation spell, which turns the MC into female, so they can ride him on their dick, like in a locker room scene and then peneltrate and come inside, possible taking his vaginal "virginity" with a bit of pain every time.
You can also make it so that the MC's asshole, could be shrunk back to normal size at some points (due to the MC wants doesn't want to have a loose asshole), so the MC doesn't get to used to being raped and blindly loves it with hearts in his eyes.

Vibrations are also good points to include, especially remote controlled ones, to "train" the MC's resistant to women, which might in reality be a way to make him more susceptible to their moves on him. He could also be punished with a belt, along with vibrators in both male and female form.

Introducing tentacles and tentacle pants could be a good idea too, this is something which many games lack.
Could be both on the MC as a male and female, both by allies and by enemies or be stuck on these on some missions, which might sit on a day or so at the base, before they can remove them.

Just some possible scenarios.

On the point of game size, forget ports for mobile phones or android and such, if you make good scenes, then it can become very popular. Instead, you can split the game, where players copy saves to the next chapter or chapters, this could make it easier if you make a long game, as the former chapters, aren't as dependent like the programming from the earlier versions. To limited sex scenes can make players lose interest and lowers replicability.


Also on having a futa and none futa version, you could have a warning per scene asking if you want to see the scene in futa or without futa, possible not see the scene/image at all, then people could save ahead of the scene, this doesn't require completely separate routes. You can still have the futa talk, but the image could have a warning ahead, so players can select their preference.
 
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This game shows real promise!

Both flavors are doable for me in this game, I wouldn't mind the futa route being very mixed, possible that you can view both scenes. Both routes will likely have it's own styles, so there's a reason to play both.

I do suggest adding missions where the MC is trained for undercover missions, where he infiltrate enemy places, like brothels, auctions, slave camps, prisons and such things (like trying to find specific or groups of people, evidence or some important tool for another mission), along with IF-endings if he gets captured. The allies he have at the base, could prepare and train him for the mission, also training him in obedience, to get certain results from the mission.

Another hot factor would be to with the above in mind, that the allies at the base or in other locations too, force the MC to war female underwear and clothes, where they hunt and catch the MC in the mansion and then rip of his clothes, to force him into female clothes. They could in the end remove all his male clothes and clothes/underwear could be all from cute, cool or stylish, where the allies force him to wear clothes/underwear to their liking, like forcefully changing his clothes when he wakes up in some scenes.

They could also visit towns in women clothes (by force, due to the MC being captured by enemies for being male, through some sleep drug in food/drink or special spell.), to avoid having the MC being captured and he could be molested (some scenes could have them molesters, women/futa find out by molesting that he's male and threatens to expose him if he doesn't remain silent, like when others walk past or speak with him, the allies could do similar things to him, to dominate him outside of the base). He could also be molested in his male clothes, where he isn't allowed to be found out, being stripped of his pants or all his clothes, and then raped, trying to keep silent, or as a cover, could also be done by allies during a mission.

Also if the MC visit areas in male or female clothes, different enemies or scenes could occur, but this would be more suitable on re-playable missions, with a gallery.

This could be resisted, other than mission demands, it could be wagers of a bet or the MC taking responsibility and being a bit tricked into "taking his mission seriously".

They could also forcefully enlarge his breasts (possible to change sizes, in this game they would likely look better as a bit on the smaller size or possible somewhat larger to mid size, but not massive due to potions, which after certain hours decrease the size of breasts), possible make his breasts leak breastmilk, as in an infiltration mission where human women are kept as breading stock for monsters or angels. The story points out that males are being captured, but women could be to, also as in being converted into monsters or angels, possible brainwashed.

Wording like: "I wouldn't call it body modification, if it wasn't permanent", a wonderful line from the nadeskicko series or however you spell those tentacle games. This would fit wonderful to breast enlargement, possible creation of a vagina on the MC. The girls could humiliate the MC with a drug that shrink the MC's dick for a while or day and put his dick in a cage, which later proves useful for a mission, where he's to infiltrate's some place like a slavers camp/auction or something similar, being sold by the girls for cover story.


The MC could have several different scenes as being captured and be treated as livestock in different form to milk him on sperm or possible breastmilk, possible also as in a way to extract his hero-powers, or as breedingstock to create powerful offspring.

The MC looks like a woman, so could have to infiltrate as a woman and be trained by his allies to serve, as in being dominated, trained, spanked and disciplined

When routes gets transformed to pure love and vanilla sex, even when it comes with futa on male, it can be a bit boring. I tried to play GirlsGirlsGirls, but it was kind of lacking, especially in the content of "femdom senes"/maledom.

Alice seems to be girl who's going to have sweet scenes, but I wouldn't mind if you could set on how she would act in a scene, some might want a vanilla scene.., while some others would like her to get dominant and share the MC with her friend. Or that she figures out what the MC "prefers" by some questions.

The MC could be told that this is training for missions, as he's lacking in undercover abilities, to save victims.


Also, both spanking and pet play/training always works well in these games, as if the girls get dirt on the MC, so he can't resist them. Or that the MC loses contest, in fields that he can't just win or as payment for making certain mistakes on mission or creating issues. You can then select to make the mistake or not in the mission, or like if the MC gets interested or obsessed with some tool or thing, like a collar, whip, penis cage or get turned on by it or different scenes and that the girls notice it and use it as blackmail to dominate him.

The MC could be completely inexperienced in regard to sexual relationships and be by the enemy or an ally, molested and comes in his panties, not understanding what it's and being told that grown-up doesn't wet themselves and then gets a spanking either on the spot or at the base.


And again, don't make the futa route close to pure futa, vaginas are very attractive when it comes to female domination, especially when there's several women involved. Instead of they all having their dicks out, possible erected, they might not all show their dicks, before it's time to use.

Also have their be a female transformation spell, which turns the MC into female, so they can ride him on their dick, like in a locker room scene and then peneltrate and come inside, possible taking his vaginal "virginity" with a bit of pain every time.
You can also make it so that the MC's asshole, could be shrunk back to normal size at some points (due to the MC wants doesn't want to have a loose asshole), so the MC doesn't get to used to being raped and blindly loves it with hearts in his eyes.

Vibrations are also good points to include, especially remote controlled ones, to "train" the MC's resistant to women, which might in reality be a way to make him more susceptible to their moves on him. He could also be punished with a belt, along with vibrators in both male and female form.

Introducing tentacles and tentacle pants could be a good idea too, this is something which many games lack.
Could be both on the MC as a male and female, both by allies and by enemies or be stuck on these on some missions, which might sit on a day or so at the base, before they can remove them.

Just some possible scenarios.

On the point of game size, forget ports for mobile phones or android and such, if you make good scenes, then it can become very popular. Instead, you can split the game, where players copy saves to the next chapter or chapters, this could make it easier if you make a long game, as the former chapters, aren't as dependent like the programming from the earlier versions. To limited sex scenes can make players lose interest and lowers replicability.


Also on having a futa and none futa version, you could have a warning per scene asking if you want to see the scene in futa or without futa, possible not see the scene/image at all, then people could save ahead of the scene, this doesn't require completely separate routes. You can still have the futa talk, but the image could have a warning ahead, so players can select their preference.
This message is a doozy, but I'll try to give comments and reasons on each suggestion in no particular order. There is already one planned scene where he goes undercover as a girl, though not in the way you're suggesting. There won't be any non-con in this game as I dislike it heavily. There may be dub-con but even that's iffy. The "training" thing at the base isn't a bad idea but I'd have to think about it.

As for the captured bit, that wouldn't really work story wise even if it wasn't something I dislike, as story wise he's strong enough that there's not much that could be done to "capture" him if he truly wanted to free himself. That said, if he needs to for his goals, he may let himself be "captured" if its the most effective way to infiltrate somewhere. For the livestock and petplay, again, those are an active ick for me.

Nobody can really "force" him to do anything as I said, but if he views it as necessary to his goals, there's a lot of things he'll do that he isn't comfortable with, as he's very pragmatic. The breast enlargement is a hard no. That actively turns me off.

For the 'no idea what sexual stuff is', he's not a child, he's just small and the girls are big. He's very much aware of sexual things since he was in a war against monstergirls, who are all about sex, no matter what time period.

While he will never 'like' wearing girl clothes, as he develops feelings for certain girls, he'll be willing to wear them inside the base for a scene, but not permanently or outside unless it's something he feels he has to do for his goals.

The futa route will have all the scenes from the non-futa route as well, so there will be plenty of scenes where it's not just him getting railed, etc. Even if the non-futa route thing falls through, there will be plenty of non-futa content just in general. As for the girls have dicks out constantly, only some do and they'll most likely hide them during scenes where they aren't being used.

Having him temporarily turned into a girl is something I've considered and is in the maybe pile, though it wouldn't be about pain.

For the Alice thing, all I'll say is she's a succubus, she's going to do more than just vanilla stuff. In general, there are scenes planned with multiple girls at once.

Again, Nathan will never get raped, but he will also never turn into a slut. As for the penis cage thing, I don't like chastity cage stuff so that's a no. I dislike pain in sexual stuff, so the whip is a no, as I said petplay is a no, so the collar thing is also a no.

Tentacles are planned. They're one of the themes of a girl who will appear later.

I don't know about splitting it into multiple parts, that seems kinda weird to me but maybe. I have no idea how to even make an adroid or ios port, so that's not currently planned.

I think I hit all the points and suggestions you made, but there's a lot lol.
 

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This message is a doozy, but I'll try to give comments and reasons on each suggestion in no particular order. There is already one planned scene where he goes undercover as a girl, though not in the way you're suggesting. There won't be any non-con in this game as I dislike it heavily. There may be dub-con but even that's iffy. The "training" thing at the base isn't a bad idea but I'd have to think about it.

As for the captured bit, that wouldn't really work story wise even if it wasn't something I dislike, as story wise he's strong enough that there's not much that could be done to "capture" him if he truly wanted to free himself. That said, if he needs to for his goals, he may let himself be "captured" if its the most effective way to infiltrate somewhere. For the livestock and petplay, again, those are an active ick for me.

Nobody can really "force" him to do anything as I said, but if he views it as necessary to his goals, there's a lot of things he'll do that he isn't comfortable with, as he's very pragmatic. The breast enlargement is a hard no. That actively turns me off.

For the 'no idea what sexual stuff is', he's not a child, he's just small and the girls are big. He's very much aware of sexual things since he was in a war against monstergirls, who are all about sex, no matter what time period.

While he will never 'like' wearing girl clothes, as he develops feelings for certain girls, he'll be willing to wear them inside the base for a scene, but not permanently or outside unless it's something he feels he has to do for his goals.

The futa route will have all the scenes from the non-futa route as well, so there will be plenty of scenes where it's not just him getting railed, etc. Even if the non-futa route thing falls through, there will be plenty of non-futa content just in general. As for the girls have dicks out constantly, only some do and they'll most likely hide them during scenes where they aren't being used.

Having him temporarily turned into a girl is something I've considered and is in the maybe pile, though it wouldn't be about pain.

For the Alice thing, all I'll say is she's a succubus, she's going to do more than just vanilla stuff. In general, there are scenes planned with multiple girls at once.

Again, Nathan will never get raped, but he will also never turn into a slut. As for the penis cage thing, I don't like chastity cage stuff so that's a no. I dislike pain in sexual stuff, so the whip is a no, as I said petplay is a no, so the collar thing is also a no.

Tentacles are planned. They're one of the themes of a girl who will appear later.

I don't know about splitting it into multiple parts, that seems kinda weird to me but maybe. I have no idea how to even make an adroid or ios port, so that's not currently planned.

I think I hit all the points and suggestions you made, but there's a lot lol.
Then nipple-piercing is a no-go too.:/
You could make more vanilla nipple-piercing, like them being cursed and the MC could get teased about it in the bath by different girls who walks in on him or that notice that something is wrong. The MC could be proud and try to deny it, while the girls molest his nipples, which makes the MC feel pleasure.

The thing with a super-overpowered character without resistance and who just overpower everyone except the last bosses, is that they can be a bit boring in the long run and require a lot of reading for no scenes or similar scenes. This is often where you start to hold CTRL, due to it's going to be more text compared to the amount of scenes and high quality scenes.

But if you're inspired by MGQ, then you do have logical excuses on why the MC can be beaten, like with new sexual spells that didn't exist before, like thanks mixing monster blood in humans, a long with a lot of sexual traps. Just because the MC is strong, wouldn't necessary mean that he's flawless when it comes to traps.
And when learning that he Hero have returned, both angels and monsters of different groups, could massively place traps as a safety measure.

The enemy could hold hostages as well, so the MC in some cases have a reason to submit, to some sexual pleasure torture..

The hellhound would have been a wonderful sadist, which could have inflicted some pain on the MC, like raping him in several scenarios that I mentioned. You even made a hint for it in the breakfast scene.:'(
The MC was going to become a wife for the hellhound and to be that, a lot of domination could be needed.
Imagine the MC half-naked in an apron with girls underwear.

The MC could get surprised raped/fucked in location where he can't be discovered or at least dominated through molestation..

Also at that size of a dick that we see, which are gigantic un-erected, how does that even enter without inflicting pain, is he going to be put on a lot of aphrotic or however you spell it like in the Nadesko tentacle games or Keepers? Having some variety in scenes, makes the game more alive, like you have different characters, which can catch different player fetishes, also so players don't just play a game, which is to similar in the scenes, especially in the long game and your game got a good protentional to be a long game.

Also if you want to include more femdom, then dominant bosses and sub-bosses are a great way to do so, so it becomes different scenes than in the mansion. The mission would be useful if there's a lot of sex scenes from the MCs perspective too, because you play as the MC.

MGQ or if its spelled MSQ, was a bit limited or very lacking in many scenes. I viewed scenes in the first due to the lack of time, but played the third.


Also, something you could do, is to have sexual limiters on the MC like on in the game series where you hunt down succubus's in different dungeons as female MC, where they use sexual tactics/curses to limit the MC's ability and strength. This could severely weaken the hero. While the Hero could be all-powerful, every hero should have some kind of weakness, there could be a lot of new spells after 1000 years and with the increase of new kinds of monstergirls. The bosses, shouldn't sit and wait to lose when all others are just walked over, they should be planning to fight the hero to their last breath, to win. At some point, the MC is likely going to face bosses?

Breast enlargement doesn't have to be massive breasts, that turns me off too, especially when they get so massive that they fall on the floor. Smaller ones breasts, which breaks him out of characters, by acting bit shy, trying to avoid others from noticing it and when the do and question him, they could corner him and there could be a scene. But if you don't like it, then I won't push for it..:(

Keep the transformed into a girl scenario in front-lobe, that could create very different scenario, which gives different scenes, to avoid to the scenario similar scenes. Because with similar scenes, games can become boring if they're long. Suddenly the MC is weak, can get molested and must get through different areas without being exhausted, or that the MC is severely weakened, it would add a great amount of possible scenes, especially from the allies on missions, in the mansion and by enemies. At least keep in mind, for when the scenes have been too similar. I myself sometimes drop games for long periods of time because some get tedious with working to get the scenes and the sort of real quality of the scenes, which can be very similar to what was shown before. Femdom University or Fem U zero the new ones was called, it was very time consuming to play, so I don't always get to playing new updates that much, I of course have been busy lately and many scenes can be a bit slow a and similar, especially when you can't spam CTRL quick enough.

See it as you play as a character and many players want to experience the MC as the one mainly experiencing sex scenes (that's why I push for variety), scenes without the MC are fine, but they the majority should be the MC as you live into the situation of the MC.

Also the Dragon girl, could make the MC fall asleep again, only for him to be tied up somewhere, where she have her fun/reward for something. There're lots of options..

The MC could also fall asleep in the wrong place if not sleeping enough and that can lead to a lot of the girls abusing him and blaming him for sleeping out in the open, with the excuse that he must be sex-deprived or something similar, which they'll take care of.

The MC is such a nice guy, so he can't bring himself to hate the girls and sort of forgive them even if he's a bit irritated unless he's to shy to confront it. The girls could have the excuse that it's to train him, to be prepared for everything, when they in general only wants to satisfy themselves. The girls can't help it that they crave for sex, even if they're very dominant, forceful, kidnap the MC and tie him up, it isn't the girls fault after all.;)

The MC will be understanding!
Issue solved!

The MC could also be understanding towards some bosses and might not want to hurt them, so the bosses get the upper hand or/also tricks him.
Another issue solved!

You're at the start of the game, so much of this can be in future plans and doesn't have to be considered now.

Never heard of non-con and dub-con.:S

I have rambled a lot, repeated myself several times by now and it's getting very late.

Good luck with your game!
 
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...oh my. And here I thought I had a tendency to make long posts.
qwerfgh, a word of advice: while your enthusiasm for this new game project is seemingly admirable... you've essentially written two very long posts where you're just telling the dev to put extremely-specific-to-your-tastes scenarios/fetish/content under the guise of mere suggestions. (In fact, this is something you've done in previous threads, going off your post history.)
Don't do that. It can be fine to post something like "I think it'd be hot if this character had a scene like this, because scenes like this are already in the game for other characters." It's generally not fine to post something that essentially boils down to "please put my extremely specific fetish content in this game (even if it might not fit the game), because it already has a fetish that's somewhat-related but way more mild." Even worse when you do that multiple times in a row without having any feedback from the dev on what they're interested in, or what could even get into the game.

For the women all being futas, while some don't have it hanging out all the time, they will all have futa on male content of some kind, as well as non futa content. The main reason I have for this is I'm not the hugest fan of male on futa. While I don't mind it, it doesn't really do anything for me, so this way I can have them not have their penis out during scenes where the protagonist is doing them instead of the other way around.
Sounds good! Again, I'm primarily interested in the futa-on-male content going forward, so as long as there's a good amount of it for all the girls (hopefully if the content could skew towards there being more futa-on-male overall) I'll be one happy camper. (That being said, if the non-futa stuff features the girls being more assertive/dominant then it's even more to look forward to.)
I'm going to try to keep the game as futa optional but that depends on if there's even any real desire for it to be optional
I think this is a situation where you'll have to balance out player opinions versus what you really want to do with the game. If the majority of players don't really care for the futa-optional version (like myself) but you personally would like to include it, then go ahead. By the same token though, is it worth creating all those alternative scenes for a minority of players?
and if that inflates the size of the game too much, as I don't know if it costs money to get more than 1gb of space on itch.io for a game.

As an example, one ten second clip of an animation can be between 1 to 3mb before I edit it with sfx and convert it to a format renpy can use, which increases the size further. While that isn't a lot, if I have five of those for each scene due to speeds, orgasm, angles etc, it adds up very quickly. Before I deleted the majority of test animations in the game, it was too large to post on itch.

So even though I want to keep the futa optional version going, I may not be able to simply because of size constraints, so worrying about it being slowed by this may be a moot point.
I'm not too hot on the specifics for either, but you could always look towards different image compression sites/services/programs/etc. that can lower the amount of space taken up by your images/videos without sacrificing the quality. As for itch.io's size limits, 1gb is the standard limit but you can either contact somebody from itch for an increase in upload size limit or use some kind of "butler" command line tool that bypasses the size limit? Again, unsure of the details/specifics here.
 
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...oh my. And here I thought I had a tendency to make long posts.
@qwerfgh, a word of advice: while your enthusiasm for this new game project is seemingly admirable... you've essentially written two very long posts where you're just telling the dev to put extremely-specific-to-your-tastes scenarios/fetish/content under the guise of mere suggestions. (In fact, this is something you've done in previous threads, going off your post history.)
Don't do that. It can be fine to post something like "I think it'd be hot if this character had a scene like this, because scenes like this are already in the game for other characters." It's generally not fine to post something that essentially boils down to "please put my extremely specific fetish content in this game (even if it might not fit the game), because it already has a fetish that's somewhat-related but way more mild." Even worse when you do that multiple times in a row without having any feedback from the dev on what they're interested in, or what could even get into the game.
I believe that developer, along with other developers, is intelligent enough to make its own decisions.
If it find anything I mention of use, then it'll use it.
Also if it sees a popularity drop or gets stuck and this can happen any developer, then it got scenarios to fall back to and doesn't have to research and ask around at the same scale. You might not know, but many developers, don't always have their entire game planned out in exact detail. I'm not going to be the only one suggesting things, the developer will likely later get a chat-channel or places where it gather people of interest and they'll reply with feedback when asked and also come with suggestions. Many developers, got a team, friends, patrons, along with ordinary forum users and others who they ask for suggestions and feedback. But you're saying that this is wrong, because it doesn't align with your fetish or strange fanatical fan-religion where developers magically have all the answers in their head and are perfect.

Wouldn't it be better that you monitor all new threads of your liking and make sure to post early, that other forum users aren't allow to suggest things outside of your preference? This is a forum and we discuss mixed topics here, both positive, negative and suggestions/feedback.

When you develop something, it's very good to make plans long before you're to implement them.
This create the possibility, to have a better red-thread in the game and if you got suggestions from users in a list, then you might have thought them over long before and have a good image of what you could implement when the game is beginning to become lacking, which happens in developments.

If users are only allowed to post in regard to what already is in the game, then that's just completely idiotic, it's way harder to change development in middle of development compared to early. To change something early, you need suggestion early and it creates a better flow in the game, instead of content being changed with the flip of a finger. What you're suggesting as well, is that we only give feedback after the content is available, this the dumbest thing you could suggest.

Now, when the developer have a plan and have created a story, material and possible prepared a team for specific content, then it's costly in both time and possible money to REDO or suddenly stop to branch the story differently, what if you're to pay artists but have to change content in the middle? You're more or less telling the developer to scratch their progress, stop working and re-think the game in the middle of development. This is worst-case scenario feedback, the worst one you can give, even if it's necessary at times.


When giving feedback on a scene from your wording/view, you create issues with your argument.
You sort of expect that the developer barely know what to do next and gladly makes the change, like that developer would do bit by bit.
Many developers plan far ahead, some know what content to have until the very end. Those who do, can create good flows in games, these often prefer to get a lot of suggestions at the start, instead of the the middle or end.


When I suggest thing, I do it mainly out of my own fetishes and I got a lot of fetishes and I have never denied this.

Some idiots however paint up the worse part of a fetish and more less says that I seek the worst possible parts of a fetish. When it comes to Futa, you in reality, would have to clean your ass, to avoid smell, shit stains and infections and should always use protection and not take a shit stained dick in the mouth. In Futa games, there can be very large dicks. When you force yourself to vomit, you stick fingers in your throat, a long large dick would make anyone vomit and die if the dick got erected. We don't see these parts in Futa games because that's extreme, a very large dick against an untrained asshole, more or less breaks it and it starts to bleed. Why I write this, is because this is your way of thinking when someone suggest a fetish that you don't agree with or that change your preferences.

What I suggest is in many cases not close to extreme and I suggest many things, but you just voids all of them because you likely see me as an enemy, because I suggest wrong fetishes. You take different levels of different fetishes to create a quality game, you don't create a single fetish with basic vanilla, as it often becomes a very lacking game.

In this case, I mentioned a lot of scenarios, not based on a single fetish, but many.
Sometimes I suggest scenarios outside of my own fetishes, but that's more rare.
Do you really think that I would provide feedback for a game (unless asked), that is completely uninteresting for me and that doesn't align with my fetishes? Why would I waste time with that?
If I suggest something, then why wouldn't it be from what I would prefer?

I'm not responsible for what others prefer and I don't care.
If others have suggestions, then they can suggest to, or am I the only one who got intelligence to do so?
If the developer is or looks to be stuck, then I MIGHT suggest some scenarios outside my fetishes.
Sometimes when I am in a discussion with a developer, I can suggest fetishes not of my preference and how different routes can be developer due to that I sometimes try to help or be nice.

Some of my fetishes might fall in the extreme category, but then futa is too and by your logic, the developer must undo the futa element.

You often have to mix different fetishes to create good content, you don't just have one fetish. Many fetish-fanatics, often take the worst of the worst from a certain fetish that they don't like into their imagination. Let say that some pain is introduced, it could be mild, mid or harsh, which sometimes flavor the story, that doesn't mean that it require content where limbs are chopped off. Sometimes you can create a scenario of horror, but you don't need extreme images to the story and you could have mild images or with images coming from later scenes without the horror element. Otherwise it's like an action or horror movie without blood.


When you create a long game, you must always escalate, otherwise you're better of with a short game, preferable with a very red thread. So it's important to to not begin with stage 5-8 on stage 1, players always expects more, not less. So the more players play, the more they expect and this requires way more than softcore vanilla. Vanilla games are incredible hard to succeed at, due to that they're common and the competition is harder, in short competition for players and funds.

If the game content becomes to similar and starts to feel repeating, then you can lost a lot of players fast.
When players stops playing every update (can often happen if content is lacking or there're, many updates with little content), then it can become likely, that a lot of players stops playing the updates for very long time. This is were a lot of players drop the game and they might not be back at all. This is dangerous for developers as developers want people to talk about their game, which creates activity and allow the game to easier spread to new players.

A game thread with 2 pages, won't in general be as popular as one with 50-100 pages+.
This has the ability to bring in more new players and hopefully paying players, this allows for more possibilities and helps the developer economically.

So what you're doing, is to limit the possibilities for the developers of games that you religiously defend, which the developers most likely doesn't want from you.

I got a life outside of porn, so I'm not going to start up a conversation with every developer I want to suggest something to, to understand their fetishes and their limits. I don't have that time, if you lack a life to keep you busy, then you're free to do so. So if I give feedback, then I'm going to write a lot at one point and hopefully not have to do so afterwards. In this case, I did get a reply from the developer and I replied to the developer again and then that as the end with me wishing the developer good luck.

When you told the developer to ignore the none-futa contant, because that was a minority, you did so because you were not interested in it, you did more or less the exact same thing like I did, you made a suggestion and your preference on the developer and made your point heard. You might have not told the developer off completely, but you were hinting at it. So your issue with me, is that you don't agree with fetishes that I suggest.

On regard to None-futa, I believe that this content could bring a lot of players to this game, but it would be easier to have a warning before the scene instead of every player having two installation for two different routes, which require different writing-content for two routes, or that you could get a note like a warning for which kind of writing the content belonged to. But this depends of what the developer feels that it can pull off, as it'll be extra work. I'm fine with both cases.

All content I suggested, fits in the game.
You can easily create scenarios where this content work, it's childsplay to write the grounds for much of it (at least for me, but I have played a lot of games and can see far away), even if it at parts of the game, changes original plans of the developer. You could even make NTR work here, with enemy bosses capturing the MC's allies and making them theirs, it's very easy to introduce. But this is up to the developer, I haven't made the decisions for the developer, I made suggestions, just like you did, because you couldn't care less about none-futa element.

You likely stumbled on me in the Milk University thread, I remember whining from a lot of futa-fanatics and I believe that you have posted there before as it feels very familiar and that's from where you have issues with me. You didn't just check my post history, you remember my long posts from that thread and you likely even replied there under another name, posted there or deleted the posts. However, I have done you the favor of writing something similar again.

I accept your suggestions in threads, so you must accept me and others.
If you can't accept other people opinions/suggestions, then it's better to remain silent.
If you don't read this post, then don't bother to reply or talk with me again, it saves time for us both.
You could have made suggestions, without mentioning me or commenting about anything I said.

And if you still want to whine regarding my suggestions, then you can send me a message personally and we can discuss it there, that goes for everyone else too. However, if posts are made public, then I'll reply in public.

Sorry for writing such a long post in this thread Aetheras, I obviously have a history with this other user.
The issue is that if I don't reply, then I get a to hear this from this user specifically in every futa game that I make suggestions in. If I make a short post, then it would continue for days, a long post cover most points and saves me time, otherwise this user and along with other futa-fanatics would gang up on me endlessly and it was extreme when it came to the Futa genre.

If some other people can talk about more positive things, it would improve the mood for others here, the user in question will get a notice of this reply, so it doesn't have to be visible for others.

Or just make some random posts.
 

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The hero at the beginning who wants to doesn't want to let himself be corrupted but we all know that he will end up like that soon. :sneaky:

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It's just a shame that the game is a sandbox, I don't have the patience for that kind of system... I prefer a linear story with choices.
 
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The hero at the beginning who wants to doesn't want to let himself be corrupted but we all know that he will end up like that soon. :sneaky:

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It's just a shame that the game is a sandbox, I don't have the patience for that kind of system... I prefer a linear story with choices.
You're not wrong lmao. Also I'm considering making the sandbox system much faster, since currently there's basically no reason to have it take five interactions to get a scene, and there will be choices in the story for certain scenes, etc, though it's not linear. I mean it makes sense story-wise to have it be slow but gameplay wise when I'm testing it, it's mostly just annoying. As a solo dev who released his game ten days ago, I'm very much still learning what does and doesn't work, what the compromise between gameplay and story-based progress should be and a bunch of other stuff as well.
 

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You're not wrong lmao. Also I'm considering making the sandbox system much faster, since currently there's basically no reason to have it take five interactions to get a scene, and there will be choices in the story for certain scenes, etc, though it's not linear. I mean it makes sense story-wise to have it be slow but gameplay wise when I'm testing it, it's mostly just annoying. As a solo dev who released his game ten days ago, I'm very much still learning what does and doesn't work, what the compromise between gameplay and story-based progress should be and a bunch of other stuff as well.
I'm saying that your game would have been better without the sandbox aspect, but for that you need to have a solid scenario in mind and not be sailing in a fog.



If in the future the sandbox will be minimal, maybe I'll try it ^^