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The_fallen_dragon

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I think this is one of the dumbest ntr ever... The main antagonist own body claimed that since the main girls family is a powerful conglomerate if he acts stupidly they could crush his family. Yet, she doesn't fucking go to her family and tell them whats going on despite having plenty times to? Really? This is a tier beyond the usual ntr idiot characters on this site because most usually have the argument of being weaker in power someway from the person who takes them but this character has the power to shut them down, but doesn't. YOu also can't say its out of social shame and embarrassment as her family has the wealth and resources to make sure it never sees the light of day.
 

LordFrz

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I mean- those people aren't into (only) NTR games, they enjoy the ones with both options, and because those type of NTR games exist, it makes sense for them to ask. If it gives the option, they'd give it a shot, if it doesn't, then they're not interested. It's not that deep.
I think that's the disconnect. While it's not my thing, from what I can understand, when people want an avoidable NTR, they are looking for a game where they can actively save the girl from the corruption, but with the added anxiety that if they mess up the girl gets fucked.

But they get lumped in with the idiots that are just shit posting on every NTR game complaining that it has NTR.
 
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LordFrz

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I think this is one of the dumbest ntr ever... The main antagonist own body claimed that since the main girls family is a powerful conglomerate if he acts stupidly they could crush his family. Yet, she doesn't fucking go to her family and tell them whats going on despite having plenty times to? Really? This is a tier beyond the usual ntr idiot characters on this site because most usually have the argument of being weaker in power someway from the person who takes them but this character has the power to shut them down, but doesn't. YOu also can't say its out of social shame and embarrassment as her family has the wealth and resources to make sure it never sees the light of day.
I think the implication is that she was drugged and didn't tell anybody because she was a bit addicted. Its also not uncommon for a rape victim to just never tell anybody for numerous reasons only they themselves can understand.

But at the end of the day, it's just dumb porn logic, don't think about it too much.
 

desmosome

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Sry if already answered. What's the relationship between this game and the other one posted a bit later?
 

Iblis2150

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Truer words were never spoken. I played a game years ago that had something to do with "Summer" in which the MC was such a coward that he failed to respond to every opportunity his childhood friend gave him while the other townspeople were hitting on her all over the place. After a while I hated him so much for his lack of backbone I wanted to enter the game and take her away from him myself.
I only really realized how much I hated indecisive MC-characters, when I read a doujin by Dramus called 'First come first serve', which made the "antagonist" look visually like the bad guy, but it was really the childhood friend who fucked up big time with leaving the girl hanging for ages, and not confessing, but then he had the audacity to act all hurt, and saying "I have always loved you", basically guild tripping her for finding a different man. Really pissed me off, and that's probably one of the main reasons I actually like NTR now :')
 

flannan

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I only really realized how much I hated indecisive MC-characters, when I read a doujin by Dramus called 'First come first serve', which made the "antagonist" look visually like the bad guy, but it was really the childhood friend who fucked up big time with leaving the girl hanging for ages, and not confessing, but then he had the audacity to act all hurt, and saying "I have always loved you", basically guild tripping her for finding a different man. Really pissed me off, and that's probably one of the main reasons I actually like NTR now :')
Hint - if a woman is uncomfortable with the situation being indefinite, she should make the first move. We do not live in Middle Ages.

Sry if already answered. What's the relationship between this game and the other one posted a bit later?
The other game is a sequel that starts from one of this game's bad ends.
 
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Iblis2150

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Hint - if a woman is uncomfortable with the situation being indefinite, she should make the first move. We do not live in Middle Ages.
Well, in that case she thought he didn't like her that way since he never expressed any interest, so she found a different guy. Idk why your first instinct in that case is that it's the girls fault, when she was the one who moved on first, and the guy then suddenly confessed to her way too late, when she was already in a relationship.
 

AtotehZ

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Fixes broke the game for me.
Before fixes main character would be stuck in a loop, with him disappearing from the screen but being able to move.
 

dazedanon

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Fixes broke the game for me.
Before fixes main character would be stuck in a loop, with him disappearing from the screen but being able to move.
Uh that sounds weird. Is there a screenshot or something? I'm not sure what you're referencing.
 

anonsuit

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Hello, since I'm one of those retards just wanted to share with you my point of view. I like challenges in games and achieving a good ending when the odds are against you is something that I enjoy a lot, a game in which I can't lose feels worthless, same as a game in which I can't win.

Overall avoidable NTR is just one of the aspects I enjoy, as it could be avoidable femdom, avoidable mind control of the MC... basically a situation that goes against the MC and that I can overcome to achieve a good situation for said MC.

So yeah, I hope more avoidable NTR games are made, even better with a MC that isn't a pussy and that can live on even if a girl got NTRed.
the problem is that it is a big resource investment to make a route that not everyone is going to play if your game is focused on NTR. though I do agree that there should be choices to depussyfy the character. I remember one recent NTR game where the childhood friend with his tiny penis and all after waking up from a coma and finding out the truth in one of the endings he just goes OK buh bye ima make my life elsewhere. it was my favorite ending. I think if the game is NTR focused just have the NTR and give the players a chance to save the poor man's soul.
 

Troqu

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Ok so I did the NTR routes last night and they were good, but the "blue balling and causing him to injure himself" scenes are almost as enjoyable. Cucking a rapist out of his prize has never felt so good.
 

Sissycuck111

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I mean- those people aren't into (only) NTR games, they enjoy the ones with both options, and because those type of NTR games exist, it makes sense for them to ask. If it gives the option, they'd give it a shot, if it doesn't, then they're not interested. It's not that deep.
It's really easy to search the harem tag and get a huge list of games that have the content they want. Their objective is to troll and its that simple.
 

DawnCry

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It's really easy to search the harem tag and get a huge list of games that have the content they want. Their objective is to troll and its that simple.
The first game that I ever played related to the avoidable NTR concept was kichikuou Rance, a harem game at it's core that starts by having the most important girl of the MC captured and that you are trying to rescue before it's too late. In that game many girls of the MC harem could get bad endings, be it death, rape, mind control...

What you call trolling is just people that enjoy overcoming challenges to get their harem and are open for bad stuff to happen if they fail. It is pointless to NOT have the challenge since the victory is empty, same as it's pointless to NOT be able to lose since without risk you don't feel that the MC deserves the harem.
 
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hp_surfer

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I think that's the disconnect. While it's not my thing, from what I can understand, when people want an avoidable NTR, they are looking for a game where they can actively save the girl from the corruption, but with the added anxiety that if they mess up the girl gets fucked.

But they get lumped in with the idiots that are just shit posting on every NTR game complaining that it has NTR.
This. 100%. This is how Avoidable NTR "Should" be used.
The default story should always progress towards the NTR end, unless the MC does certain things, multiple times, to change that.

So basically Avoidable NTR games should be Corruption games: But you're trying to stop the corruption so the NTR doesn't happen.
 
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