Ren'Py Completed Unveiling the Unknown [v1.1.0] [TwistedScarlett]

[Evangelion-01]

What the different between futa and famboy route?

Nothing really... at best the Option to choose wether you want to be pronounced as she, he or it/sexless

 

[Ehmgeeaye]

Are we fr?

 

[Ehmgeeaye]

What the different between futa and famboy route?

probably nothing beyond how youre referred to. youll probably have a different dialog experience with Octavia though when you hangout with her the first time (and a second one with Hazel much later)

 

[yacky91]

Unveiling the Unknown ended up being the latest game to get picked up from my endless backlog. It primarily caught my attention due to the fact that it has a futa protagonist, which is actually a lot more rare than most people realize when it comes to H-games specifically. (Regardless of how common it is or isn't in other forms of hentai.) Sadly, aside from the fact that Lily (default name for MC) is very cute, the game doesn't deliver that well on the whole futa thing. By that I mean that throughout the story and the various scenes, Lily takes on a wholly male role, and there's like 2 scenes in total where anyone else even touches her pussy.... So in that aspect, it was pretty disappointing tbh.

I really wish that the game did more with Lily being a fully functioning hermaphrodite... However, that's not what happens here.

Beyond that, it's perhaps worth noting that the game is extremely vanilla in terms of its H-scenes and the consequences of said H-scenes. The acts that are presented are all pretty basic and you don't even get anything like anal (except for exactly 1 scene). What? DP with Hazel wearing a strap-on or using a double-dildo? Naw fam, can't have that. Even though you'd think the game was going there with everything that was being set-up with Aurora. Beatrice's affection stat being labeled "corruption" might make one think that there's more going on there... but that one doesn't really deviate from the feel good feel of every other scene in the game. Sure, the situation and world-building has potential for corruption and some other stuff... but what little of it is present is very poorly implemented and seems forced at best even if you take the more dubious choices offered by the game.

What, the rape tag? There's exactly one scene with rape in it in the whole game... and it barely counts. That imp was all over that dick real fast... Pregnancy? 2 scenes in the post game.

Basically, don't pick this up expecting anything particularly crazy fetish-wise. Hell, even the whole thing with cucking the Legendary Hero is turned into non-issue by the fact that it turns out that Kane's gay, while the path of just plain killing him is so half-assed in terms of writing that it's not worth considering seriously.

I'm not saying that any of that stuff is explicitly bad, given all the different preferences out there, but it's fair to note that people that aren't into the limited content of the game won't really get much out of it, if anything. H-wise anyway.

The last thing I'll note about the H-stuff that's on the "your mileage will vary" category, is the fact that the game features two different art-styles. Twisted Scarlet's own art style and the works of mdf-an which apparently inspired this entire game. The problem is that said art-styles are not complimentary in the least, being extremely different in style and for me at least, the transition from one to the other was very jarring. It didn't help that mdf-an's stuff has an unfinished air to it that rubs me wrong, and overall I preferred the scenes that had only Twisted Scarlet's art. That's all subjective perception and preferences though, so anyone else's mileage will vary, as mentioned before.

Moving on from just the H... If I were to choose something that's genuinely negative about this game, it's the fact that it has some attempted branching in it, but said branching isn't implemented properly, nor is it played straight, likely due to the limited and specific art that was being worked with here. Basically, the intended flow is the one where Lily is a nice, cute, loving girl with great empathy and sympathy who generally makes things better for everyone, including her idiot brother and even the Demon Queen that cursed her. Especially since said curse wasn't that big of a deal for Lily in the long run.

While the game offers options like killing Kane and/or the Lilith, the Demon Queen, and then enslaving humanity and whatnot... the fact of the matter is that it just doesn't properly build up to any of these things and doesn't have the proper build-up scenes for them. You don't really have the structure for it all, even though the potential for such developments exists in the world-building and whatnot. Quite frankly, those developments feel half-assed and like they were thrown in to add some "edge" to the game or something, but it doesn't really feel like Twisted Scarlet really took them seriously, or even wanted to write them if how they flow is any indication. Hell, the game doesn't even have art for Lily going full on Lilim Queen, even though it has succubus variants for all the girls. That shows pretty clearly that Twisted Scarlet didn't put in any real effort into the whole "Lily goes evil" direction.

Of course, properly implementing branching that'd lead to those alternative developments and ending variants would have meant that you wouldn't be able to unlock literally all scenes in a single playthrough... but I don't think that'd have been such a bad thing? The game already has a NG+-esque mechanic... Would it have been that hard to properly implement full on NG+?

No idea tbh, I'm not a dev after all...

Still, I think the game would have been better without the dubiously implemented alternate developments, or if said developments were written in with the serious kind of branching and story development they needed to actually make internal sense and whatnot.

Leaving the alternatives aside, the story and world-building is nice enough. It starts off with your typical Hero vs Demon Queen shenanigans, but then it quickly deviates more and more from the typical flow of such stories. While the conflict looms in the background, most of the story's focus is on Lily's shenanigans around the mansion and flows from one H-event to the next with conversations with the various characters present in between, and of course dungeon diving if you want to do that too. Said dungeon diving is optional, but, tbh, you should totally do it (and cheat if you really have too...) because the story makes a lot more sense if you do that every day and properly progress the various character upgrades as well as the manor management.

If you follow the rather obviously intended path, the game is a pretty nice feel good type of story with a good ending for everyone.

Moving on, the gameplay elements for Unveiling the Unknown are overall fairly simple. You don't have particularly deep mechanics that you need to master and the whole thing is pretty laid back. I had almost everything maxed out around day 22 (everything except the Crit-Damage and Health upgrades in the Research tab and of course Lily's Core upgrade and Deep Dreamer along with the so far endlessly scaling weapon upgrades). I wasn't trying particularly hard to max out all that stuff tbh, but I ended up doing it anyway. At that point, everything turns into a one-shot fest, and the only things that ended dungeon runs were either me not paying attention and getting got by a counter (which bypasses even stored evades) or building up so much heat that the attack stat couldn't keep building up fast enough to keep one-shotting enemies, at which point the first exchange that isn't evaded leads to death.

That said, it's weird how the game lets you reach 100% crit rate in the dungeon (or higher), but it seems impossible to reach 100% evade... (At the very least, I don't think I've ever seen the slime girl offer the succubus cloak with evade more than once per run even when running into her 10+ times using potions). It's weird because between Sniper being a thing and counters bypassing evade, it's not like 100+% evade would make you invincible either... Not to mention that there's no real point in endlessly diving either...

OH well, no point in thinking about it too hard.

The dungeon diving bit mixed in with the management bits was reasonably fun, but not amazing.

All in all, subjective enjoyment and narrative flaws aside, Unveiling the Unknown is a pretty good game. I can't call it an amazing one, but it's pretty good. If I were to bother with ratings, I'd probably push it up to 4 stars, though I'd say that it's difficult to really put a singular number on the whole thing due to how certain elements aren't as connected as you'd expect. (Eg. You can completely skip both the dungeon diving and stuff in town.) It's still not in "amazing" territory, but amazing territory comes with a lot of subjective assessment too, so not much stuff makes it that far in my book. Too bad that the game only seems available on Steam...

I didn't read everything, but about the vanilla stuff, yea, it feels like the "fetish" is futa but scenes are vanilla, there aren't fetishes or more like there's a lack of them. I was expecting some sub/dom play, bdsm, anal (for mc and girls), having mc pussy taken care of in different ways, and every common fetish that isn't just vaginal futa on fem.

I really like the artstyle, characters look very beautiful, but I am just not a fan of just CG unlocking through story, I like more sex play and sandboxing that includes sex. I just lost interest in CG hunt games I'd rather watch a CG collection if I wanted.

I'm not complaining about CG's btw, just saying I'd like more than just CG hunting.

 

[Iexist]

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I suppose you could argue that "maids" is one of this game's fetishes... though appearance type fetishes don't make anything more or less vanilla, so it doesn't really change much. At the end of the day Scarlett was limited by what art was available from mdf-an and clearly didn't want to put in too much of their own art in the game.

Which is why the would be netori stuff ends up being really awkward... But oh well...

ANYway. This isn't really a CG hunter game tbh. It's a classic VN with optional gameplay... and it sounds like that's specifically your problem, that it's more of a VN than anything else. I can't really comment all that much on that one. I don't get particularly hung up on the format of my smut, so I don't think that there's anything wrong here with that, aside from wishing that a number of the choices were more meaningful.

I can say that I'm not sure what you were expecting from something made in Ren'Py. It's not really an engine that lends itself well to gameplay. It's primarily a VN engine after all.

 

[yacky91]

I suppose you could argue that "maids" is one of this game's fetishes... though appearance type fetishes don't make anything more or less vanilla, so it doesn't really change much. At the end of the day Scarlett was limited by what art was available from mdf-an and clearly didn't want to put in too much of their own art in the game.

Which is why the would be netori stuff ends up being really awkward... But oh well...

ANYway. This isn't really a CG hunter game tbh. It's a classic VN with optional gameplay... and it sounds like that's specifically your problem, that it's more of a VN than anything else. I can't really comment all that much on that one. I don't get particularly hung up on the format of my smut, so I don't think that there's anything wrong here with that, aside from wishing that a number of the choices were more meaningful.

I can say that I'm not sure what you were expecting from something made in Ren'Py. It's not really an engine that lends itself well to gameplay. It's primarily a VN engine after all.

Sorry it's hard for me to explain why I consider this a CG hunt compared to other VN's lol

 

[MatthewHyabusa]

So Supposedly 1.1.0 fixed the ability to start Lady Balethorn's hangout, but such is not the case for me. I just had the morning event where it has told me it is time for the 'final battle'. Meanwhile I can't complete Seraphina, Hazel, or Mirabelle's hangouts because Seraphina Hangout 4 requires sleeping with all Maids, which I'm guessing req. Mrs Balethorn hangouts, which is still bugged. Catherine, Emi, Octavia, Juggernaut & Beatrice are all complete (minus finale).

Is there anything I might have missed that is preventing my progression?

Edit: I forgot to mention I'm on day 28.

 

[Ehmgeeaye]

So Supposedly 1.1.0 fixed the ability to start Lady Balethorn's hangout, but such is not the case for me. I just had the morning event where it has told me it is time for the 'final battle'. Meanwhile I can't complete Seraphina, Hazel, or Mirabelle's hangouts because Seraphina Hangout 4 requires sleeping with all Maids, which I'm guessing req. Mrs Balethorn hangouts, which is still bugged. Catherine, Emi, Octavia, Juggernaut & Beatrice are all complete (minus finale).

Is there anything I might have missed that is preventing my progression?

This didnt happen for me. You're missing Ophelia in that list of maids. Baelthorn doesnt count. Also, you need to be at Day 25.

 

[Ehmgeeaye]

Sorry it's hard for me to explain why I consider this a CG hunt compared to other VN's lol

that's because you're wrong

 

[MatthewHyabusa]

This didnt happen for me. You're missing Ophelia in that list of maids. Baelthorn doesnt count. Also, you need to be at Day 25.

I'm on Day 28. I spent a few days just going into the Dungeon trying to trigger something new to happen. I do not have Ophelia. She never showed up for me.

 

[Ehmgeeaye]

I'm on Day 28. I spent a few days just going into the Dungeon trying to trigger something new to happen. I do not have Ophelia. She never showed up for me.

she's not in the library..? That would be a big problem

 

[yacky91]

that's because you're wrong

Nope, it's because you win points for them and unlock their CG's. Unlike VN's that are related to story and choices.

 

[Evangelion-01]

Nope, it's because you win points for them and unlock their CG's. Unlike VN's that are related to story and choices.

Yet the focus of the game is a dungeon crawler and not a VN... at best it's a Dungeon Crawler Dateing Sim... though that's a far stretch

 

[yacky91]

Yet the focus of the game is a dungeon crawler and not a VN... at best it's a Dungeon Crawler Dateing Sim... though that's a far stretch

Well don't mind me, it's just I feel disappointed when a game has such nice art, "interesting gameplay" and so many tags and yet it's just a vanilla sex game with CG unlocks with points. But well description says VN with optional dungeon diving gameplay.

While of course not the same genre, but I feel it's like those side-scroller/action games where there are just CGs at the end of each stage instead of sex in the game. Or an RPG that has no sex mechanics and just CGs through advancing the main quest.

 

[PhazeUFO]

Well don't mind me, it's just I feel disappointed when a game has such nice art, "interesting gameplay" and so many tags and yet it's just a vanilla sex game with CG unlocks with points. But well description says VN with optional dungeon diving gameplay.

While of course not the same genre, but I feel it's like those side-scroller/action games where there are just CGs at the end of each stage instead of sex in the game. Or an RPG that has no sex mechanics and just CGs through advancing the main quest.

Funny how it doesn't have the VN tag, isn't it?

 

[yacky91]

Funny how it doesn't have the VN tag, isn't it?
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Misleading description then? Just as the tags?

 

[BananaMan443]

I can't trigger the fourth Seraphina hangout. It's been 32 days, i completed every other available hangout except lyra's third one because the option to start it somehow is gone. Do I just have to keep progressing or is this a bug?

 

[Ehmgeeaye]

I can't trigger the fourth Seraphina hangout. It's been 32 days, i completed every other available hangout except lyra's third one because the option to start it somehow is gone. Do I just have to keep progressing or is this a bug?

can you list the maids who youve completed hangouts with to have sex?

 

[BananaMan443]

can you list the maids who youve completed hangouts with to have sex?

I replayed Seraphina's third hangout and was able to proceed after that. Not sure what exactly happened but it looks like everything's fine now.