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I played the first part (the lost family lying to Khan about their driver). The rape path had 3 sex scenes but the romance path had only 1 sex scene. Is this like this throughout the game - one path getting much more scenes?
Later on they are much closer to 50%/50%. For each scene I try to see if there's a reasonable "angle" to create both dominance and seduction paths. Most of the times I find such angles but in some scenes one of the two doesn't make sense. But again: in the majority of the scenes you can choose.
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Are there any girls in the game who like the raping aspect? Maybe cry or resist a bit at first but then enjoy and craving getting ravaged by the Khan? Sorry if I'm asking too many questions - I LOVE the premise of the game a lot - taking over kingdoms by defeating and subjugating females of various races. But the first 'lost/lying family' scene was was jst too brutal for me personally- the girls didn't enjoy it at all. (I know that obviously a girl would hate to get raped - but it's a game so I'm asking). I just wanted to know if the whole game is just like this - the girls absolutely hating the MC and being traumatized and not enjoying even a bit. Or does the girl like Khan after the initial shock and disgust - or maybe even enjoy actively submitting to his sadism (like I previously mentioned)?
By first scene you mean the literal first scene, you never looked at the second or third scene with the same family? Maybe watch a little longer and you'll figure out for yourself if it changes in line with your preferences.
If you are asking if they usually scream for the first thirty seconds of rape then fall madly in love with you aka JAV/Hentai style... nope, if you're asking if you can rape them, then get them to love you eventually... then yes, fairly easily in fact
Not sure if any of them actively "enjoy" rape though.
I can't bring myself to write a scene where the victim enjoys being raped. I mean: don't take moral advice from a porn writer, but the notion of "she ends up liking it" is so morally flawed, that even I (who wrote scenes where a daughter is ravaged in front of her helpless father) can't bring myself to write.
So, no: if you expect scenes which start with rape and end up with orgasm, I'm afraid you'll be sorely disappointed with my game. A total waste of your time. The sex scenes I write are either consensual or extremely not, never a mix of the two.
If you refer to Wench seduction after the post-combat ravishment, I'm seriously considering to remove it from 0.8 onward: If you'll rape the Wench after the 1:1 combat, your seduction path will be blocked. I didn't like this hypocritical flow from day one, time to make the players choose.
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any chance you'll make the domination path less restrictive then? because that would mean we're trapped between two extremes, I have zero interest in seduction but the current Dungeon option is just bleh! Sorry I can't say that more eloquently.
I want to Dominate in the sense of loving Master/pet owner (once they have been properly trained). not sadistic torturer. removing the post battle Ravishment without some middle ground will kill this game for me.
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Not the literal first scene - the first plot piece with 3 sex scenes. And I was hoping for either of them to be true (either liking the rape or eventually or eventually getting them to love the Khan) - for me domination is great only when the gal enjoys it too
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Thank you for answering. I love maledom but I like it only if the gal is enjoying it too. So I'll just stick with the romance path (but from what I've seen so far - it's just two extremes, no in between - there's no maledom without brutal rape and the seduction path's doesn't have dom/sub dialogue). The different races are amazing though
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I know that many players do. These are awesome (in my own completely non biased opinion...) because I can add much more depth to them.
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i hope the females you encounter during the infiltration missions at some point can be interacted again.
For what it's worth I'm very pro-this. Some of the Seduction paths (like Angilia and Nahir) do have the "loving master" aspect, it's my favourite part of the game currently.
Alam, Domia, Zuri and Fahda can already be interacted with. Perhaps I'll be able to make another cameo in 0.8.
Ok, if you like how it turns out in those stories then I'm not against such sentiments in future seduction flows.
I've seen the same sentiment expressed in a few different posts and it's a tough one to put into words, so I'm going to give it another go.
When Karder rapes a Wench, then she's like "you raped me" and he's like "sowwy
" and she's like "OK I forgive you, let's fuck", it's completely understandable that that feels incongruous and hypocritical. What I suspect Stil996 et al are getting at (I could be completely wrong) is that rather than being ripped out, they'd prefer that scene to look something like the Wench saying "you raped me" and Karder saying "Quite. Because as we both understand, the conquered have no right to expect anything from the conqueror, and if I'm nice to you from now on it's because I want to be, not because you're entitled to it" and she's like "OK, I can live with that".
Ironically that "the conquered have no right to expect anything from the conqueror" is the exact meaning of Vae Victis. Desert Stalker is probably the best example I've seen of threading the needle of "exercising power over/dominating someone without sadistically enjoying their helplessness".
When Karder rapes a Wench, then she's like "you raped me" and he's like "sowwy
" and she's like "OK I forgive you, let's fuck", it's completely understandable that that feels incongruous and hypocritical. What I suspect Stil996 et al are getting at (I could be completely wrong) is that rather than being ripped out, they'd prefer that scene to look something like the Wench saying "you raped me" and Karder saying "Quite. Because as we both understand, the conquered have no right to expect anything from the conqueror, and if I'm nice to you from now on it's because I want to be, not because you're entitled to it" and she's like "OK, I can live with that".Ironically that "the conquered have no right to expect anything from the conqueror" is the exact meaning of Vae Victis. Desert Stalker is probably the best example I've seen of threading the needle of "exercising power over/dominating someone without sadistically enjoying their helplessness".
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Wait, when have you ever seen Karder apologize for raping a Wench when he conquered her Khaganate? I don't remember that at all (though it's been a while since I played through from the beginning) - I'm more tempted to say his responses are exactly like what you say you want to see - he says basically it's just a fact of life if you're on the losing side, etc.When Karder rapes a Wench, then she's like "you raped me" and he's like "sowwy
Ok, let's review this bit for all Wenches.
1. Angilia:
ka "I will not apologize for my actions in your temple, as it is not my habit to explain myself to my defeated opponents."
ka "However, I may make this a single incident if I see value in you."
2. Nahir:
ka "I'm not in the habit of apologizing to my former opponents, but I realize my behavior after our duel was not... noble."
3. Teniya:
ka "I... I must admit that while I can be an... enthusiastic lover sometimes, it is not my habit to rape women on the field of battle."
ka "Perhaps it was your beauty which enchanted me. Regardless, I wish to apologize."
4. Sumia:
ka "Well... I will not apologize, but I admit it was your ravishing beauty which inflamed my emotions."
5. Dian and Antiope:
dian "Perhaps she has forgotten how you {b}raped{/b} us after we yielded..."
anti "Such is war, my queen. And such are men."
anti "The fact the His Majesty is still wearing his clothes suggests he was carried by heat of the moment..."
ka "In fact I was."
6. Black Alana:
ka "Are you well? I was... rough with you, at your hall."
Oh, and Naruz-The-Wind just kinda shrugs because "But of course you did. You won."
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This aside, I do understand where people not liking the "two extremes" are coming from. But to be honest, you can not expect someone like Karder to be moderate in any way. He's the kind of guy who goes hard in whatever he does.
Even when he's showing finesse it's because it's the fastest way to reach his goals. So, when he's choosing to apologize to a fallen queen, it's because he is planning to utilize their skillset and wants to be on their good side. It's not actually a loving relationship, or so it seems.
In that light, I think the dungeon/lover route makes total sense lore-wise, even though I can understand people who assume the role of Karder would generally fall somewhere in he middle of the spectrum.
I'm of the opinion... fuck finesse, Finesse is what people use to impress ME, not what I use to impress them
I am the ruler by right and by might, I conquered you therefore I own you, I will not apologise to you or seduce you, you WILL serve me (willingly or not), it's up to you to improve your situation by trading on your skills to become my adviser, if you fail to do that you can always be my fucktoy & trophy (displayed in my throne room in revealing clothing and golden chains, Jabba the Hutt had the right idea).
The whole Dungeon scene annoys me, Dungeons are where you throw your trash while you wait for the right moment to execute/ransom them. (the only reason I currently choose the seduction route)
Slaves belong proper lodgings suitable for training & fucking (think Harem/Brothel with chains & devices)
Slaves get trained in how to serve their master, punishments are dealt out when they are earned.
And having them confined to a sex frame interests me even less than seducing them. Particularly Alam, I wanted to keep her like a pet (maybe even some cat ears). Publicly treat her like a princess, Privately treat her like a whore.
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I see what you mean, and that would be an interesting albeit a very different game; a game that dives so deep into the ocean of fantasy in which human beings are easily reprogrammable animatronicsI'm of the opinion... fuck finesse, Finesse is what people use to impress ME, not what I use to impress them
I am the ruler by right and by might, I conquered you therefore I own you, I will not apologise to you or seduce you, you WILL serve me (willingly or not), it's up to you to improve your situation by trading on your skills to become my adviser, if you fail to do that you can always be my fucktoy & trophy (displayed in my throne room in revealing clothing and golden chains, Jabba the Hutt had the right idea).
The whole Dungeon scene annoys me, Dungeons are where you throw your trash while you wait for the right moment to execute/ransom them. (the only reason I currently choose the seduction route)
Slaves belong proper lodgings suitable for training & fucking (think Harem/Brothel with chains & devices)
Slaves get trained in how to serve their master, punishments are dealt out when they are earned.
And having them confined to a sex frame interests me even less than seducing them. Particularly Alam, I wanted to keep her like a pet (maybe even some cat ears). Publicly treat her like a princess, Privately treat her like a whore.
It's an alluring premise indeed, but alas, your princess is in another castle.
Where are you getting reprogammable animatronics?I see what you mean, and that would be an interesting albeit a very different game; a game that dives so deep into the ocean of fantasy in which human beings are easily reprogrammable animatronics
It's an alluring premise indeed, but alas, your princess is in another castle.
You have the choice of serving as a slave, chained to a throne, humiliated, on display to every visitor, publicly fucked, and possibley passed around as a freeuse fucktoy, or bend knee and serve as an advisor and retain some semblence of power and dignity, which would you chose? It's a harsh world where rape and murder are common, power comes on the edge of a sword, female leaders in particular have to be pragmatic.
I guarantee most would bend knee, some might prefer death, but those likely wouldn't be captured alive in the first place.