what do you mean by mods? morphs? scenes? textures? atoms? persons? looks? Because I see VAM2 stuff listed in the VAM1 Hub right now and I'm confused.
Unity VaM 2 [v1.1.1 Beta] [Meshed VR]
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RonaldBurgundy
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I STILL wish he would've moved towards Unreal Engine for VaM2.
I know it would mean learning to work with the different engine but to be honest, if you came from 0 experience, UE just seems SO much easier to learn, create with and modify. Plus you can do photorealistic visuals.
Unity doesn't really seam to be going anywhere and their tools are so weak compared to the flexibility that Unreal Offers.
UE's forward and backwards compatibility seems to be better as well so it seams that it's much more future-proof.
Their Blueprint visual scripting seems superior to Unity's Bolt.
In UE, so many things like natural movement like walk/run/crouch/jump over and around objects/terrain is built in.
I don't have extensive programming expertise, so i could be TOTALLY wrong about all of this. But i have been playing around with the UE development.
A video highlighting Unreal 5.6 features:
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movement and animation
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I used VAM1 a while ago but I ended up leaving it because of the bad performance I had, I have an RX6600, R7 5700x and 32GB DDR4 RAM, it is not the best PC, but not the worst either, today I can play any new games without much problem in MEDIUM/HIGH graphics without FSR, In fact, in many scenes I got good performance (FPS60+) by disabling some options that did not significantly impact the visual aspect, but there were also many others in which if I did not use LSFG it was terrible for me, I hope this VAM2 focuses on performance, this or next year I plan to switch to an RTX5060/RX9060XT and I would feel terrible if it went badly with one of those GPUs.
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They are under different categories tho, the hub is only one for both versions of VAM but you can categorize the addons.
And about the 'mods', you cannot drag and drop the VAR files to VAM2, for example, they will not work. But there are guides on the hub to convert some stuff, like converting Genesis 2 morphs to Genesis 8 and exporting to VAM2. A few people did that already, is possible! But you have to recreate/convert the morphs, and requires DAZ knowledge. There are plugins on the HUB for VAM1 that lets you export morphs as DAZ files, so you can use them in the conversion. But you need to be a creator to do that.
The VAR files, saves, etc, they are not compatible between the versions. If you have the source files for the assets (like from environments or objects) converting it to Unity 6 to be compatible to VAM2 is not that hard, i'm getting some sketchfab models that where used on VAM1 and trying to port them to VAM2 to see how better they look.
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Yes, it will work better on potato PCs. And don't worry Vam1 has a lot of good content, but Vam2 has so much potential that content creators will give us much better things, just having Genesis8 characters is a huge step, because most Daz3D content is made for G8 or G9 this days, and those G8 ones can be converted for Vam2 very easily.
All of them. Anything created for Vam1 is not compatible with Vam2. Content made for Vam2 is also incompatible with Vam1, this is not an update, this is a new app created from zero, and that's a good thing.
You can view in VR just activating it, but the VR controls still not there. Not so important tbh, because the software is barebones right now.
Crazygamer43 Please put this link at the OP so people can see the roadmap first, this answers a lot of questions:
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As you people can see, Vam2 doesn't even have figure scaling or collision system, this is a very early beta, we should wait a year or even more to see something "playable".
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The licensing corporatocracy is such horse shit. The idea that a company can hold authority over the customer even after they bought something and call it a "Service" is insane. You're essentially "borrowing" something but you still have pay, which means ownership is obsolete. You will own nothing, and big corporate will be happy.
scoutjoe
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"If buying isn't owning, then pirating isn't stealing" really fits this description
Isn't Adeptus steve's Wildlife an Unreal based game? Also, I've seen people recreate/mod UE games' characters in that game.
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I don't see any mod that done for that game. Most of them are re-sculpt of the default models in the game. They can port clothes but can't do it with actual characters. It isn't fully moddable.
UE is fine easier and all but pretty heavy on your system, compared to that, while unity technically has a more difficult ease of use(can be offset with use of assets) it is more hands-on, gpu and mod-friendly and from a dev's perspective, making a well-playable and optimized game that can run even on potato pcs is more ideal bcoz of the wider market, i.e lower end hardware basically populate the gaming demographic.
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yeah cuz Meshed is really focusing on making the vam2 optimized for potatos pcs right...
just like the version vam1...
I once saw him saying on discord that his estimate was that we would need hardware that hadn't even been released to run vam2 with all features well.
The Unreal Engine5 IS a better choise but tha ship has already sail.
Unity seemed promising in the past when Meshed decided to stay with it instead of going to UE5, but Unity just keeps shooting itself in the foot all the time.
There's people on this forum that want to make an open competitor to vam to make things easier and better for everyone. Downside is they keep scope-creeping on the soft body physics and won't move onto anything else til they get it. They are looking for too much realism and it's holding the project hostage. Without having anything they are drawing no attention to it, so only a handful of people in a niche corner knows about it. So they aren't getting more people in to help. The post in question - https://f95zone.to/threads/how-can-we-achieve-soft-skin-physics-in-unreal-engine.137663/
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UE5 is the worst shit ever made, there isn't any good competitors right now, but Godot is becoming better everyday, and ReX Engine by Redot devs will be even better with performance.
No UE5 game looks goos in any way, and you should learn why:
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