so.2 paths like ur other game? why to strss ur skill in doing that? only asking....but we will see his wife doing some shady shit with others? will be this a need to see or only we will know bcs someone told us? we will have the choice to reject everyone or some will be forced?
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It's that for the moment we have only had scenes in very dark environments, I think that's the reason
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In the next update, if I have time, you'll be able to choose whether to follow the harem path (either with the vampires or the hunters) or follow the single-girl path. I also want to include a path without girls, just the plot, but that will be in the future.
If you can tell me where you feel the scenes are rushed, or with which girl in particular you felt that way, let me know and I'll analyze it. Thank you so much for taking the time to write to me
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for a story that i assume tries to take it self seriously the first sex scene with bastia is completely out of place, after that i just skimmed through the rest of it. i feel like it is also worth to mention that 2 separate paths on the very first release with a track record of a previously abandoned game is some obvious foreshadowing.
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With all due respect, this is retarded.
First of all that's not what Harem players want in the first place. Second, you are making two games at the same time.
so, even if you don't give a fuck about what your target audience wants, is it feasible to work on two games at the same time?
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Oh, I'm glad you liked it. Yes, I plan to add music to it in the future, I'd love to.
How strange what you mentioned about Nadia's scene. I'll be testing it with another computer to see if it has any issues. I'll see if I notice anything wrong.
Anyway, thank you so much for taking the time to write to me. I'll try to improve what you mentioned. Thank you very much.
i know u speak spanish but i will not talk spanish here ,sex scenes feel rushed for me that doesnt mean is ruushed form ur point of view u know more about the game than us,so if u feel like its deserved is ok for me,..my only real complain is ,the 2 paths,not the hunter or the vampires nah the problem comes with i cannot have a full harem with all the girls ,yes i want hem all,not half,not solo,not for me,...lyssandre will be one from the vamps or she isnt allowed to have fun?In the next update, if I have time, you'll be able to choose whether to follow the harem path (either with the vampires or the hunters) or follow the single-girl path. I also want to include a path without girls, just the plot, but that will be in the future.
If you can tell me where you feel the scenes are rushed, or with which girl in particular you felt that way, let me know and I'll analyze it. Thank you so much for taking the time to write to me
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The other game was a complete disaster; it had far more than two routes. This one will only have two, with variations. I'm doing it because I don't mind writing, and I feel it gives the game more meaning.
As for the wife, there won't be any content with men other than the protagonist, of course.
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Hello! I honestly hadn't thought about that, and you're quite right. Given the current state of the story, it wouldn't be difficult to unite the paths (in fact, at one point I was thinking of uniting them against the common enemy). I'll take note of this and try to think of a coherent solution. Thank you very much.
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Yes, you have a point there. As I said in another post, at one point the routes merge for a moment, and I think I'll speed up that event a bit more so we can have a single path. I'm going to sit down and write and see what comes out; I'm sure I'll find something.
As for Lyssandre, there will obviously be action.
u already have the harem in ur mind and ur plans why not just go back and forth with normal hunters shananigans and vampires till u need to merge them somehow like a real thread ? i think one big harem is better than 3 paths and ur worload will be much less ,after all i dont think ur want a 30 girls harem but maybe the best of the 2 worlds combine?
p.s: but man do ur game ddont let others tell u what u must done,we fans try to critizise alot not always with the dev in mind ,the only do not thing i can ask and ope no sleeper ntrish shit
p.s: but man do ur game ddont let others tell u what u must done,we fans try to critizise alot not always with the dev in mind ,the only do not thing i can ask and ope no sleeper ntrish shit
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So, not a real harem game it seems. I don't really do multiple play throughs,, and I also don't really get this as a concept and why the choice is made to do it. When I play a game I want the story to be as intended. It's one of the reasons I use walk-throughs or guides. I want to see the story you want to tell, not worry the whole time about what I'm missing. I've never seen the benefit to doing this kind of thing in any game that tries it. You double your work for players to only see half the content and that's if you even manage to keep it even and don't end up favoring one path over the other. Which happens more often than not when games do this and have multiple separate paths like this. Even AAA games that try for this struggle and for every game that manages to find some kind of balance between paths there are dozens of others that clearly have one path that was done better or more fleshed out and is the obvious "official" route, even massively successfully games that only try to have slightly different endings will still have one that is clearly better quality than the other endings and if they make a sequel ends up being the official end. So any time I see an indie AVN dev trying, not even just for two story paths or slightly different endings (which is again a massive undertaking in itself), but also setting up two separate harems with different characters and feels... It just seems like a lot of extra risks (of many kinds) with almost no real reward, since most players don't replay games and it isn't adding anything to an actual playthrough (but is in fact taking things away from the base playthrough), only those few who do more than one play through, which again even for AAA games that are built for it, is a small part of the player base will ever see all the story could have to offer.
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Usually games that try this do it where one path is "evil" and one is "good," anyway. Or corruption and romance, or whatever other dichotomy the dev is pushing for whatever reason. But it just seems like a weird choice to me. Why can't the main character find a way to get the girls on both paths? Corrupt/Enslave the "good girls," or redeem/save the "bad girls." Or whatever the distinction of the paths will be. And, when devs do this I also have at the back of my mind that it is a way to have "three letter content," in a roundabout way. Things end up happening with the girls on the other path and the excuse goes, "Well, you aren't on their path, so they aren't love interests and it doesn't count. They just have a life, it's ReALiStiC." Or other such excuses that are arbitrary. I've been burned by this kind of thing before, game forces you to pick between two girls just so that one can be used for *cough* questionable *cough* content of some kind... or even so she can be killed off. So, again, just don't see the point or value added in the idea of two separate harems. Just seems like a way to end up in a negative space. Especially when, because I'm 100% sure this will happen and end up becoming a thing, a specific girl is really attractive or really well liked by all the players but she is locked into one of the routes, all of the players on that other route will feel like they got the shaft, like a big middle finger to them and like they picked the "wrong" route. They'll wonder and might even ask, "Why couldn't that girl have been on this route? Why does she only become a love interest on the other route? Clearly that was your favorite route since you put best girl on that route, so why even make this route that you clearly didn't like as much.?" Now, they might not be right, but if that kind of thing happens (and I've seen it happen in every game that has tried this tactic that I have seen) this will be a complaint and it could cost you a lot of support, especially if the "best girl," is on the "less popular" route with players.
Anyway, I'm known for being long winded, sorry about that. If you gave it a read then I appreciate it, and nothing here was meant to be an attack or to be anything other me talking about some of my thoughts, observations, and opinions. Feel free to accept them, reject them, or ignore them of course. And whatever you end up doing know that I wish you the best in your stories future even if it isn't a game that I'd play (since I only play real full harem games now). So, regards and best of luck to you even if I don't understand or disagree with how things are planed out.
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LOL, I seem to be the most long winded, but not the only one to have thoughts on this. You gave these responses to them, so I guess they'd apply to me too,
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I'll just post my thoughts and whatnot in a spoiler, even if it's not a mega spoiler, I rather just avoid spoiling anything for people that's yet to play this..'game'. This is about Dakaria and pretty early on in their 'relationship' just fyi.
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Hi! Wow, yes, you're absolutely right. As I said in other posts, I'm going to try to combine the two routes I've created so far. They're not that long either, and I was planning on doing it eventually anyway. Thank you so much for your comment; I really appreciate it.So, not a real harem game it seems. I don't really do multiple play throughs,, and I also don't really get this as a concept and why the choice is made to do it. When I play a game I want the story to be as intended. It's one of the reasons I use walk-throughs or guides. I want to see the story you want to tell, not worry the whole time about what I'm missing. I've never seen the benefit to doing this kind of thing in any game that tries it. You double your work for players to only see half the content and that's if you even manage to keep it even and don't end up favoring one path over the other. Which happens more often than not when games do this and have multiple separate paths like this. Even AAA games that try for this struggle and for every game that manages to find some kind of balance between paths there are dozens of others that clearly have one path that was done better or more fleshed out and is the obvious "official" route, even massively successfully games that only try to have slightly different endings will still have one that is clearly better quality than the other endings and if they make a sequel ends up being the official end. So any time I see an indie AVN dev trying, not even just for two story paths or slightly different endings (which is again a massive undertaking in itself), but also setting up two separate harems with different characters and feels... It just seems like a lot of extra risks (of many kinds) with almost no real reward, since most players don't replay games and it isn't adding anything to an actual playthrough (but is in fact taking things away from the base playthrough), only those few who do more than one play through, which again even for AAA games that are built for it, is a small part of the player base will ever see all the story could have to offer.
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Usually games that try this do it where one path is "evil" and one is "good," anyway. Or corruption and romance, or whatever other dichotomy the dev is pushing for whatever reason. But it just seems like a weird choice to me. Why can't the main character find a way to get the girls on both paths? Corrupt/Enslave the "good girls," or redeem/save the "bad girls." Or whatever the distinction of the paths will be. And, when devs do this I also have at the back of my mind that it is a way to have "three letter content," in a roundabout way. Things end up happening with the girls on the other path and the excuse goes, "Well, you aren't on their path, so they aren't love interests and it doesn't count. They just have a life, it's ReALiStiC." Or other such excuses that are arbitrary. I've been burned by this kind of thing before, game forces you to pick between two girls just so that one can be used for *cough* questionable *cough* content of some kind... or even so she can be killed off. So, again, just don't see the point or value added in the idea of two separate harems. Just seems like a way to end up in a negative space. Especially when, because I'm 100% sure this will happen and end up becoming a thing, a specific girl is really attractive or really well liked by all the players but she is locked into one of the routes, all of the players on that other route will feel like they got the shaft, like a big middle finger to them and like they picked the "wrong" route. They'll wonder and might even ask, "Why couldn't that girl have been on this route? Why does she only become a love interest on the other route? Clearly that was your favorite route since you put best girl on that route, so why even make this route that you clearly didn't like as much.?" Now, they might not be right, but if that kind of thing happens (and I've seen it happen in every game that has tried this tactic that I have seen) this will be a complaint and it could cost you a lot of support, especially if the "best girl," is on the "less popular" route with players.
Anyway, I'm known for being long winded, sorry about that. If you gave it a read then I appreciate it, and nothing here was meant to be an attack or to be anything other me talking about some of my thoughts, observations, and opinions. Feel free to accept them, reject them, or ignore them of course. And whatever you end up doing know that I wish you the best in your stories future even if it isn't a game that I'd play (since I only play real full harem games now). So, regards and best of luck to you even if I don't understand or disagree with how things are planed out.
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LOL, I seem to be the most long winded, but not the only one to have thoughts on this. You gave these responses to them, so I guess they'd apply to me too,
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Hi! Hahaha, I hadn't noticed that mistake in the narration. Thanks for writing it. I'll correct it in the next update.
You'll be able to read more about Dakaria and vampire relationships when you continue the route, especially in the conversations with Emma. Let's just say she's been chasing and investigating things about the protagonist for a long time. She's in love, or something like that.
I understand it might be shocking, which is why there's the option to reject it at that moment, and it has no consequences in the future because, for anyone, that would be weird.
Anyway, thank you so much for your comment
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I really wanna try this cuz the renders and models look nice
but I have very little interest in reading long stories.. I'd love a story if it's a short carrier of the H stuff but is this the case here or is there lots of reading in between H scenes?
but I have very little interest in reading long stories.. I'd love a story if it's a short carrier of the H stuff but is this the case here or is there lots of reading in between H scenes?
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