DandyMe

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I assume still no way to replenish ENERGY? [mentioned this several versions ago]
No options in Kitchen (eat?!? yes Dev IRL people EAT!) Bathroom (shower/bath) etc.
Energy kit in grocery shop (mall)
Waiting also refill a bit energy..
 

Sick&Alone

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Aug 30, 2020
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Energy kit in grocery shop (mall)
Waiting also refill a bit energy..
Yes i was aware of "Energy drink" but----only help a small bit (less than HALF) & current cost is VERY high;

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MINOR MOD: [note does *NOT* use cheats, didn't change anything there]
Minor Mod:

--INCREASED base pay: [who IRL would take 50 when you could make 150?!?] (min now 125, + higher cap)
COMPUTER PC is EXTREMELY expensive! (WISH HAD THIS MOD @ START!) + Many other things very expensive, &/or you need many of them. (potions/drinks/etc)

--Energy drink: EVERYTHING, & I do mean, EVERYTHING, [EVEN Talking will FAIL w/o ENERGY] takes ENERGY, & unlike some other sims or IRL, no options 2 shower nap or eat to gain more energy, only sleep.
+2: a) CHEAPER, & B) GAIN BACK MORE ENERGY!! (I wish, B WiP)
anyway pays to keep some on hand, as I say EVERYTHING take energy!

(just replace .HTML file) Hint: DEV file is ZIP, mine is 7z
 

Sick&Alone

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Aug 30, 2020
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Has game got any less grindy?
These kinds of open world directionless choose your own path really suffer from too much grind.
Maybe theres something cool after some magical combination of "do this thing 30 times, and that thing 10 times" kind of exploration but.. yeah no.

Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy the open worldness part of having different levels or genres of things to do with different people depending on character development, but this is only something that should be used for when you have an overabundance of content in the first place.

These games where you start out and theres just no fucking content until you grind for 30 days to some efficiency schedule, no.
If all of the content is locked behind such things, then you really don't have enough content to justify the openworldyness of it in the first place. It'd be better off as just a short story that gets to the point.

Not meaning to throw shade at the dev, I know this stuff is a passion project made more for your own reasons.

Throw this feedback in the trashcan, but its just how I feel, and my frustration is more at the entire sex game genre.
These are sex games that don't have any sex. Would you play a final fantasy game that didn't have any quests/combat/fun until you've talked to people for 30 days? If a game like that did exist, we'd call that part of the game an epilogue and give the ability to skip it.

I think maybe if every game on f95 had a separate rating for like the initial Tedium / Grind, people would be able to filter things like this from the searches and then dickheads like me wouldn't leave this kind of feedback we'd just skip it.
You post is dated, [wow! happy April 2025! ] but much is still relevant.
1st, check out my mod (v .10 recent post) Helps w MONEY & ENERGY, both very useful early on. (still need Energy later)
Game (stats) is STILL grindy some----DEV---Suggest 2-4x PER LEVEL to gain 1 stat level (gym/base phy stats)
--->>> THIS IS IN MANY WAYS A SIM, & just like IRL, nothing happens instantly. (except w cheats?)
Getting the grind down will take some fine tuning, & as someone mentioned elsewhere, this is a ONE-MAN project, so give the guy some credit (hey YOU TRY IT!) it's not easy!
A LOT has changed in the game since your post, in fact my older save didn't work, had to start all over again.

If you're looking for a quick fap, this isn't that kind of game. (ok maybe w cheat codes? lol)
This game features SIM stuff: WORK, & COLLEGE; Both R "one day at a time" "little by little", so yes, will be *SOME* grind.
(NPC generation has changed a LOT, be careful w start in new version) NPCs often want to talk/interact w you, often *MANY* times a day (but varies) Again, the more realistic/SIM/ "Romance" side of things, than pure porn.
APART from cheat codes (ahem!) NOTHING happens quickly, ie, you start w stats @ -0-, & takes TIME (UGH ya that grind) to inc them; -BUT-, (SIM/realistic part) WORK/College/talk w NPCS everyday, after a while, you've got more $ [again, my MOD helps] --HINT BUY COMPUTER PC ASAP!-- college class helps w Intel, Computer work best MUCH better than normal jobs;
HINT: GO TO COLLEGE CLASS EVERY DAY! (FREE Intel boost)

Game highlights (disclaimer: haven't gotten thru new ver .10 yet)
--SIM, more than VN type game (yes folks, GRIND is part of life)
--Many talk/Romance/touch/etc options [cudos dev, this is GOOD part of SIM!]
--[COMBAT?] FORCED options (possible rape?) -->> FAIR WARNING: In old version, some options better, new ver, ALL STATS START @ -0-, so if you have aggressive NPCs, EXPECT TO GET YOUR ASS KICKED early on! (I had to restart new version to change this)
AT GAME START, ALL NPCS , yes, ALL [check ver # above] have better stats than you, so if you choose combat/forced option early on, well, hope you like getting your ass whopped...
--Has hookers/bar, /etc so yes options like IRL;
--mostly you'll need to inc your OWN stats, (get computer ASAP! Needed 2 inc some stats, + BETTER JOB) then you'll have better luck w NPCs, as that relationship develops, more options & more people possble. [or, just go spend money on hooker... ?!? ]
--QUESTS: So far, these R money/stat driven, I'm sure more will be added.

PS I posted about this on another site, but technically, these are NOT "sex games" but "ADULT" games;
For example, in many places [including here where I live] simple NUDITY---you have a story/VN/game,----NOT PORN, but nudity; Skinny dipping; bathroom; topless sunbathing; etc anyway, *BOOM*, now it's restricted, now it's "ADULT",----no SEX needed.
YOUTUBE is like this; A GIRL, (yes, folks, not a male, but FEMALE) posted TOPLESS (not even full nude) videos, & got them BANNED. [no sex, only topless] I never understood why something that's ok for a BABY (see/touch/suck on! lol) ---is OMG WHY IS IT SO WRONG for ADULTS?!? ---end of rant....
 

Sick&Alone

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Aug 30, 2020
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Bouncer (for NEW ver 00.10)
Had this in old ver, how to a get it back in new version? [stats needed, & any prereqs to get] (Obviously, want high enough stats to win MOST fights, bouncer's get fired if they keep getting their ass kicked! (oh, & those hospital bills! LOL)
 

Sick&Alone

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Aug 30, 2020
397
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My advice, which is obviously based on what I enjoy in a game, so I don't expect everyone else to love it, but maybe it can give some ideas...

1) Focus on at least ONE story arc. Maybe just Ethan to start. Develop that story completely with all the options and story you can think of. That way we have SOMEONE to focus on, if we want.

2) Keep making our character a character. Are we a college student? If so, we should HAVE to go to class or flunk out. Pick a major/degree field. Why are we wanting to change people? How do we get the idea to change people? Have our skills to change people develop, too.

3) Do something with the fact you called this game VICEburg. Maybe this town engages in their vices to a more open extent than the general population. Make your title relevant to what we're doing!

Anyway, if this helps, great, if not, just keep doing what you're doing.

[see my reply post to "grinding" ]

This isn't a VN; The focus here is not on others, as much as on MC; [including MC stats, money etc]
If you're MC is MALE & you're not gay, Ethan's arc could be completed, BUT of no interest to you.
2--College (this is improvement from prev version you should have seen it 6 months ago!) Going to classes (NOW FREE, ATTENTION DEV, maybe classes should cost MONEY? More realistic SIM) increases INTEL stat, & is needed/useful for many things. [DEV: Maybe open up some jobs require certain INTEL stat?]
3--- (Both 2 & 3 appear WiP) COMBAT SEX/RAPE/hookers/ just some, (TRANS is OPTIONAL part of game)
Given all the (LOL monstergirl etc ) stuff out there, adding more "Vice" I don't see being a problem.
 

Akaibu

Newbie
Apr 11, 2019
21
28
sharing these as a way of basically mass changing particular values, not gonna explain what needs to be changed as I will assume some intelligence.

JavaScript:
SugarCube.State.variables.player.relationships.forEach((value, key) => {
    if (value.metrics && value.metrics._friendship) {
        value.metrics._friendship._value = 0;
    }
});
JavaScript:
for (let i = 0; i < SugarCube.State.variables.Characters.length; i++) {
    SugarCube.State.variables.player.relationships[i].value._metrics._sex._value = 100;
}

i see that this game has stopped being a plotless sandbox as i barely reconize the game atm, the cheats are nice even if they don't contain a max relation button similar to what the above can do.

anyways here's a console command that can direct you to the cheat menu currently in game without needing to know the pateron code

JavaScript:
SugarCube.Engine.play('NewCheats')
will see if the dev decides to play cat and mouse on the bypassing access to cheats or not, my advice for them is to don't bother and just work on making the game better/have content, as oppose to trying and stop people like me.
 

cptCharlie

New Member
Dec 28, 2020
3
0
To enter cheat passage in last version 0.0.11 you can change .html file in row 9712.
change it with
&lt;&lt;if $cheatsToken == undefined || hashWord($cheatsToken) == &#39;c4036bac&#39;&gt;&gt;
type any (but not blank) password will be okay.

optionally change row 2360:
from this
...window.DevEng=function(e){!function(e,t){return "c4036bac" === Ie(e)}(e.toLowerCase())? alert("Invalid password. Try again."):(SugarCube.State.variables.cheatsToken = e,$.wiki("<<run Dialog.close()>>"),$.wiki('<<goto "Cheats">>'))}...

to this:
window.DevEng = function(e){SugarCube.State.variables.cheatsToken = e;$.wiki("<<run Dialog.close()>>");$.wiki('<<goto "Cheats">>');}

but also you can always support dev if you able to do this (not in my country, but i see comments in code in my native language, so maybe dev will add more ways to support later).
 

Zend

Member
Sep 1, 2017
158
249
To enter cheat passage in last version 0.0.11 you can change .html file in row 9712.
change it with
&lt;&lt;if $cheatsToken == undefined || hashWord($cheatsToken) == &#39;c4036bac&#39;&gt;&gt;
type any (but not blank) password will be okay.

optionally change row 2360:
from this
...window.DevEng=function(e){!function(e,t){return "c4036bac" === Ie(e)}(e.toLowerCase())? alert("Invalid password. Try again."):(SugarCube.State.variables.cheatsToken = e,$.wiki("<<run Dialog.close()>>"),$.wiki('<<goto "Cheats">>'))}...

to this:
window.DevEng = function(e){SugarCube.State.variables.cheatsToken = e;$.wiki("<<run Dialog.close()>>");$.wiki('<<goto "Cheats">>');}

but also you can always support dev if you able to do this (not in my country, but i see comments in code in my native language, so maybe dev will add more ways to support later).
top one does not seem to work and i cant find where the second one goes as doing ctrl+f tells me it doesnt exist
 
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Crimson Fire

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You post is dated, [wow! happy April 2025! ] but much is still relevant.
1st, check out my mod (v .10 recent post) Helps w MONEY & ENERGY, both very useful early on. (still need Energy later)
Game (stats) is STILL grindy some----DEV---Suggest 2-4x PER LEVEL to gain 1 stat level (gym/base phy stats)
--->>> THIS IS IN MANY WAYS A SIM, & just like IRL, nothing happens instantly. (except w cheats?)
Getting the grind down will take some fine tuning, & as someone mentioned elsewhere, this is a ONE-MAN project, so give the guy some credit (hey YOU TRY IT!) it's not easy!
A LOT has changed in the game since your post, in fact my older save didn't work, had to start all over again.

If you're looking for a quick fap, this isn't that kind of game. (ok maybe w cheat codes? lol)
This game features SIM stuff: WORK, & COLLEGE; Both R "one day at a time" "little by little", so yes, will be *SOME* grind.
(NPC generation has changed a LOT, be careful w start in new version) NPCs often want to talk/interact w you, often *MANY* times a day (but varies) Again, the more realistic/SIM/ "Romance" side of things, than pure porn.
APART from cheat codes (ahem!) NOTHING happens quickly, ie, you start w stats @ -0-, & takes TIME (UGH ya that grind) to inc them; -BUT-, (SIM/realistic part) WORK/College/talk w NPCS everyday, after a while, you've got more $ [again, my MOD helps] --HINT BUY COMPUTER PC ASAP!-- college class helps w Intel, Computer work best MUCH better than normal jobs;
HINT: GO TO COLLEGE CLASS EVERY DAY! (FREE Intel boost)

Game highlights (disclaimer: haven't gotten thru new ver .10 yet)
--SIM, more than VN type game (yes folks, GRIND is part of life)
--Many talk/Romance/touch/etc options [cudos dev, this is GOOD part of SIM!]
--[COMBAT?] FORCED options (possible rape?) -->> FAIR WARNING: In old version, some options better, new ver, ALL STATS START @ -0-, so if you have aggressive NPCs, EXPECT TO GET YOUR ASS KICKED early on! (I had to restart new version to change this)
AT GAME START, ALL NPCS , yes, ALL [check ver # above] have better stats than you, so if you choose combat/forced option early on, well, hope you like getting your ass whopped...
--Has hookers/bar, /etc so yes options like IRL;
--mostly you'll need to inc your OWN stats, (get computer ASAP! Needed 2 inc some stats, + BETTER JOB) then you'll have better luck w NPCs, as that relationship develops, more options & more people possble. [or, just go spend money on hooker... ?!? ]
--QUESTS: So far, these R money/stat driven, I'm sure more will be added.

PS I posted about this on another site, but technically, these are NOT "sex games" but "ADULT" games;
For example, in many places [including here where I live] simple NUDITY---you have a story/VN/game,----NOT PORN, but nudity; Skinny dipping; bathroom; topless sunbathing; etc anyway, *BOOM*, now it's restricted, now it's "ADULT",----no SEX needed.
YOUTUBE is like this; A GIRL, (yes, folks, not a male, but FEMALE) posted TOPLESS (not even full nude) videos, & got them BANNED. [no sex, only topless] I never understood why something that's ok for a BABY (see/touch/suck on! lol) ---is OMG WHY IS IT SO WRONG for ADULTS?!? ---end of rant....
When someone drinks the kool-aid they stop noticing how crazy they sound.

People don't play games to simulate real life! They play games to escape real life. And because developers have their creative heads so far up their own asses they all think their shit smells like cherries and cream. It DOESN'T. The last thing they need is a fool on the sidelines going "you go girl," to every bad design choice and you making the most contemptable excuses.

The number of people doesn't factor in when talking about how shit a product is. I can't cook but i can sure as hell TASTE and I know when someone makes a meal that tastes like shit. So stop making the CHILDISH excuse of it is one person, lets see you do it! That is a DEFLECTION trying to pretend it is relevant but it is not, if a product sucks it sucks doesn't matter if 1 person made it or 30 people or 300.

Life is a grind and this is a sim so expect a grind. Again just an other "you go girl" to the developer and completely without merit. People don't play entertainment to simulate life and thus games should be like real life, they play games for escapism. GRIND should have zero part of ANY game. There is no reason to add hours of pointless repetition to a game. It adds nothing to the experience and just WASTES people's time. And what we don't need is a cheerleader encouraging developers to make games that are filled with time sinks because they lack the creativity to fill their game with content.

The essence of any game is to make it NOT realistic but enjoyable. When you have to justify a grind you have failed at the first part of making a game and what a developer needs is someone to tell them your game SUCKS for the grind fix it not some fool who drank the kool-aid cheering them on and making excuses for the terrible design choices.

Most games fail on this site because most developers, being the creative type, refuse to admit their genius SUCKS, and refuse to iterate. They refuse to change balance, change their "vision" and thus they almost never complete their games because they make a crappy product. You need to change things and but change things I mean iterate, not add things but change what you already have trying to improve the mechanics such that they become ENJOYABLE to play. When something is a grind it is by definition a failure because a grind is not fun. When a mechanic takes time but is FUN you just call it enjoyable gameplay you don't call it a grind. So developers need to take their head's out of their own asses admit their shit smells like shit and make a game that is fun to play not a grind to play.

But who am I? I don't make games so how could i know anything about what is enjoyable to play? Defeated by such incredible logic whatever shall I do?

You know what makes a good writer? Someone who rewrites, rewrites and rewrites their work. Iteration. But i am a writer so I guess this means I can talk about writing and all you who read well unless you write you are incapable of recognizing a bad story! Lets see you do it. This has got to be the dumbest logic against criticism out there. The best editors are people who read a lot but have never been successful writers. Wonder why that is? Must be a fluke.
 

bacuri

Newbie
Oct 11, 2019
22
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This game has great potential but I think the problem is that is too complicated. A huge amount of screens and places to go and nothing happens. It should be more dynamic, maybe with some guide to have a more direct flow of play.

The way it is now, we play and play and nothing happens, I tried many times and have played bigger games that are more dynamic, but the thing is, we don't feel it.
 
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