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Sorry, but not a good update.
1. No choices
2. The scene with jack while grabbing lillys butt felt weird since hes talking about how wet she is BUT only tuches her upper ass. So either hes talking about her ass sweat and licks it afterwards or his hand should be a lot lower to touch her pussy... but even then the scene would be weird since i highly doubt that lilly would allow it at her current stage.
Thats also my opinion. It would be great if the developer would tell us the reason why he does not use Choices in this Update....but he went radio silent...:( I mean...there were Choices in all of the previous Chapters.... Sometimes I don't understand what goes on in a developer's head :unsure:
 
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Thats also my opinion. It would be great if the developer would tell us the reason why he does not use Choices in this Update....but he went radio silent...:( I mean...there were Choices in all of the previous Chapters.... Sometimes I don't understand what goes on in a developer's head :unsure:
I've never understood the obsession with choices. Especially in this game, there is one main character and a straightforward plot. All previous choices here have not affected the story and have been cosmetic. Bloat the game with a bunch of choices and then wait half a year for updates until the developer puts it all together. These will either be small non-story-impacting choices, or the choices will increase the game's development time several times over. So, what's the point?
 
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Choices are mandatory for a KN...otherwise you have a Kinetic Novel or a Comic. Visual novels thrive on the player's ability to shape the story and feel a sense of ownership over the narrative :) also...it attracts more Players (more Patreons). Which is a good thing. :)
 
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Choices are mandatory for a KN...otherwise you have a Kinetic Novel or a Comic. Visual novels thrive on the player's ability to shape the story and feel a sense of ownership over the narrative :) also...it attracts more Players (more Patreons). Which is a good thing. :)
The words "kinetic" and "visual" have different meanings. They can't be contrasted because a kinetic novel is also a visual novel. The term "visual" has nothing to do with the choices.
 
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I've never understood the obsession with choices. Especially in this game, there is one main character and a straightforward plot. All previous choices here have not affected the story and have been cosmetic. Bloat the game with a bunch of choices and then wait half a year for updates until the developer puts it all together. These will either be small non-story-impacting choices, or the choices will increase the game's development time several times over. So, what's the point?
Agreed. Even the description states that fact: "Lily will start as an innocent waitress in a cafe, and by the end of the story, she will be a stripper and a money-hungry prostitute in a local club."

There is a definitive start and finish that is planned, and I don't think there is going to be a virgin/pure route, unless it was planned from the beginning, which I don't remember Eromantis ever promising.

We'll just have to accept that Lily will do things that we won't have control over... and it's good that things are ramping up. It's about time we see some foreplay/softcore stuff. No one has even groped her yet. :KEK: :KEK:
 
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I've never understood the obsession with choices. Especially in this game, there is one main character and a straightforward plot. All previous choices here have not affected the story and have been cosmetic. Bloat the game with a bunch of choices and then wait half a year for updates until the developer puts it all together. These will either be small non-story-impacting choices, or the choices will increase the game's development time several times over. So, what's the point?
While I don't like the no choice thing in this update it's also not a big deal for me as that's for my second save. For those that it is a big deal I can understand why because there is choices earlier where it is made to seem like we can play as a slut or pure and innocent and go against the design of the game. So I think if those choices never were there or were just different wouldn't be as a big deal for people that honestly don't like it the update because of it.
 
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Agreed. Even the description states that fact: "Lily will start as an innocent waitress in a cafe, and by the end of the story, she will be a stripper and a money-hungry prostitute in a local club."

There is a definitive start and finish that is planned, and I don't think there is going to be a virgin/pure route, unless it was planned from the beginning, which I don't remember Eromantis ever promising.

We'll just have to accept that Lily will do things that we won't have control over... and it's good that things are ramping up. It's about time we see some foreplay/softcore stuff. No one has even groped her yet. :KEK: :KEK:
True, but people don't understand main goal of this game and coming here whining and crying and trying to influence dev with stupid ideas, it's so fucking common on this site.. why they just don't move and play other games?
 
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True, but people don't understand main goal of this game and coming here whining and crying and trying to influence dev with stupid ideas, it's so fucking common on this site.. why they just don't move and play other games?
I haven't played many games that give you choices that go against the main goal / idea of a game. Usually when I see such a choice I do make a 2nd save to go with that playstyle like a non slut one in this game just to see it. With that being said I do wish some devs wouldn't add choices that does go against the main theme to give a illusion there is a second optional path if it really isn't gonna be developed on much compared to the other. ( Not sure if that is the case in this one but ive seen it in a few games)
 
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I kind of hope if Susan lets Bobby out of the house one day he catches Lilly being a whore when we get to that point haha. I think it could be a fun little interesting scene if that ever happens haha
 

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I've never understood the obsession with choices. Especially in this game, there is one main character and a straightforward plot. All previous choices here have not affected the story and have been cosmetic. Bloat the game with a bunch of choices and then wait half a year for updates until the developer puts it all together. These will either be small non-story-impacting choices, or the choices will increase the game's development time several times over. So, what's the point?
Wait, are we playing the same game? You can get blackmailed in the cafe, which has an impact later on for sure. Also the party time with the guys in the warehouse will surely influence what can happen in the future.

Besides this, that you dont "like" choice driven games is kind of a lost cause while beeing in a thread outside of a kinetic novel...

For me its the complete opposite. If i dont have any impact on the story, i could also watch porn or tv instead since its also kind of a kinetic visual "novel"...

To each their own i would say.
 

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Wish we had more influence and decisions taken and perhaps where to go and what to pursue. Like in the cafe with the man in the toilet. That was great, you also being able to walk away. Make it feel like choices matter. To either go along with the son or letting him be the voyeur that's being kept at a distance while he steps further and further over boundaries. Avoid that handjob and create a scene rather for example. It isn't a kinetic novel after all. Does that mean way more work due to more art and writing needing? Yes definitely but it would give the game so much more as well. Many are a fan apparently of changing her appearance while I'd love to not have tattoos and hair other color, just her clothing. Get her in trouble one situation after another that gradually corrupts her.

This might sounds as criticism, but I think this game is special. Art wise and story wise.
 

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Wait, are we playing the same game? You can get blackmailed in the cafe, which has an impact later on for sure. Also the party time with the guys in the warehouse will surely influence what can happen in the future.

Besides this, that you dont "like" choice driven games is kind of a lost cause while beeing in a thread outside of a kinetic novel...

For me its the complete opposite. If i dont have any impact on the story, i could also watch porn or tv instead since its also kind of a kinetic visual "novel"...

To each their own i would say.
I didn't say I didn't like it when choices can impact the story. I said it's not necessary. What effect does the blackmail scene have on the story, I haven't played this game in a long time but it seems to me that there's only either you get that scene or skip it. What impact does this have on the story's progression? Do you want to play this game to skip scenes? Do you want the virgin path? Or do you want her to choose who will corrupt her? This is not a game that requires choices. Unless it's in some specific places of the author's choosing.
Of course, if a developer has a lot of time and talent to make a great game with different choices that lead to different scenes, that's always welcome. But there's a good chance that the game will just get stuck and we'll wait for a small update two or three times a year. "Desert stalker" for example, and there's a development team there, not a single developer.
People like you annoy me: it's not a game, it has no animation; it's not a game there are no choices, it's just comics and other such crap. You're like kids, I want this toy no matter how much it costs.
 
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I didn't say I didn't like it when choices can impact the story. I said it's not necessary. What effect does the blackmail scene have on the story, I haven't played this game in a long time but it seems to me that there's only either you get that scene or skip it. What impact does this have on the story's progression? Do you want to play this game to skip scenes? Do you want the virgin path? Or do you want her to choose who will corrupt her? This is not a game that requires choices. Unless it's in some specific places of the author's choosing.
Of course, if a developer has a lot of time and talent to make a great game with different choices that lead to different scenes, that's always welcome. But there's a good chance that the game will just get stuck and we'll wait for a small update two or three times a year. "Desert stalker" for example, and there's a development team there, not a single developer.
People like you annoy me: it's not a game, it has no animation; it's not a game there are no choices, it's just comics and other such crap. You're like kids, I want this toy no matter how much it costs.
Just because the path with the dude in the toilet stops there, doesnt mean thats it. The game isnt finished and to argue like this is kind of wild...
 
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I didn't say I didn't like it when choices can impact the story. I said it's not necessary. What effect does the blackmail scene have on the story, I haven't played this game in a long time but it seems to me that there's only either you get that scene or skip it. What impact does this have on the story's progression? Do you want to play this game to skip scenes? Do you want the virgin path? Or do you want her to choose who will corrupt her? This is not a game that requires choices. Unless it's in some specific places of the author's choosing.
Of course, if a developer has a lot of time and talent to make a great game with different choices that lead to different scenes, that's always welcome. But there's a good chance that the game will just get stuck and we'll wait for a small update two or three times a year. "Desert stalker" for example, and there's a development team there, not a single developer.
People like you annoy me: it's not a game, it has no animation; it's not a game there are no choices, it's just comics and other such crap. You're like kids, I want this toy no matter how much it costs.
Discussion with these people no make sense, they don't understand what is main goal here, they didn't check future tags, so it's like talking to a fucking wall :D

They want choices, what a fucking choices they want in a game, where story will always lead to MC becoming a total slut. HJ or BJ? rape or gangbang? blackmail or groping? the lesser evil? - it doesn't matter, ending will be always the same - corruption to maximum level and her, becoming a money-hungry prostitute in a local club
 
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:rolleyes:The girl is so dumb...and that disgusting claws...
she was sheltered. Only thing she did is study if i remember correctly, because her parents were strict. So you can say she leave literally a cave and now learning how to world looks like, stupidly and naivety is understable for a porn logic of course
 
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Discussion with these people no make sense, they don't understand what is main goal here, they didn't check future tags, so it's like talking to a fucking wall :D

They want choices, what a fucking choices they want in a game, where story will always lead to MC becoming a total slut. HJ or BJ? rape or gangbang? blackmail or groping? the lesser evil? - it doesn't matter, ending will be always the same - corruption to maximum level and her, becoming a money-hungry prostitute in a local club
"And thats where you are wrong kiddo" meme

I asked sites ago if its possible to NOT become a 5€ whore and dev said the corruption/end can vary
 
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