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Ottoeight

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Bottom line of our comments is, the dev should've been upfront about everything from the get-go and write the story how thinks it's best. That's the only things we 'crusaders' wanted him to do. We NEVER said anything about removing that scene or stop making more NTR scenes in future updates, that's his choice. This way, we wouldn't be here debating all this nonsense (again, like it's usually the case:cautious:) and ppl could just play the game and support the dev if they like his project.
You're making the wrong assumptions that 1) the Dev created this thread; 2) he uploaded his game here; 3) he comes here and interacts with us.
 

JohnF95zone

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You're making the wrong assumptions that 1) the Dev created this thread; 2) he uploaded his game here; 3) he comes here and interacts with us.
Indeed. Not sure if Mad Scientist Lab is even a member on this site. It seems like someone find this game on Steam and uploaded it here. But for his own sake, I hope he stays away from this site :ROFLMAO: , instead just focus on developing this game (and others) just like he wants(y).
 

xXwankerXx

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You're making the wrong assumptions that 1) the Dev created this thread; 2) he uploaded his game here; 3) he comes here and interacts with us.
He obviously didn't create this thread, nor did he upload the game here, BaasB did (duh), but nothing stops him from interacting with his fans and potential new supporters here instead of bitching about the lack of financial support in the future, so I don't know what wrong assumptions you talk about. Ok, I apologize in advance if the language barrier is an issue here, but if it ain't, he has no excuse not to communicate with his fans or discuss some aspects of the story with them.

Everytime a Dev is trying to make a game which is far from being a 100% harem/incest-family-themed game, some people step in and start a war against the game, showing a clear intent to undermine the game's development.
And you think ppl would still debate or complain about stuff if the devs were upfront about their intentions from the get-go and stopped adding surprise cuck scenes ?? Well, obviously not all of them, but most of us 'crusaders' here (I personally) wouldn't. See how easy it is to avoid flame wars, debates, and pointless drama like this one with a little honesty, transparency and a shitload of maturity ??:whistle:

But for his own sake, I hope he stays away from this site :ROFLMAO: , instead just focus on developing this game (and others) just like he wants(y).
Other devs who did that too eventually ended up abandoning their games due to the lack of financial support, and most of those games were really promising titles, so I don't know if this is such a good idea in the long run.

Btw, ann87ra get a life. Your hate counts as likes and it only makes me stronger, so keep on hating.:devilish:(y)
 

Ottoeight

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He obviously didn't create this thread, nor did he upload the game here, BaasB did (duh), but nothing stops him from interacting with his fans and potential new supporters here instead of bitching about the lack of financial support in the future, so I don't know what wrong assumptions you talk about. Ok, I apologize in advance if the language barrier is an issue here, but if it ain't, he has no excuse not to communicate with his fans or discuss some aspects of the story with them.
You're a F95 oldtimer. I guess you're aware of the tons of Devs who used to interact here on F95 with users and stopped doing it. A lot of popular devs left F95 and stopped posting here.

DrPinkCake started himself the BaDIK's thread. Now he bans whoever mentions F95 on his Patreon or Discord. He bans his Patrons just for mentioning the mere existence of F95.

But I guess we went off-topic. I have my opinions, you have yours. Now that it's settled I guess we might move on and talk about the game.
 

kcoope89

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Damn this looks great, I'll need to keep my eye on this one for sure. Any love for Mac?
 

Hullahopp

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I don't like power fantasy and grotesque (giant boob/giga dick) characters. They seem more ridiculous to me, not erotic, but okay. (After all, no one cares about my taste. ;) )

MC is so miserable that it is impossible to identify with him.
Does he look like he just escaped from a Nazi concentration camp? Right.
His face is such that it would be better if he took it off? Yes.
Does he have micropenis? Of course.
That's a stretch. I sincerely feel sorry for the man who sees himself in this guy.

I feel this game is a wasted opportunity. It would have been interesting to build a super villain career. Where the player has to figure out how to defeat the superheroes.
Instead, we get the n+1th power fantasies.
Why should the player always be underestimated? Why should we be led by the hand through the plot? (sigh)

I'm sure it will be a popular game. The basic idea is interesting, the story is well written, the renders are ok. Even the first edition has a lot of content.
But I am not the target audience.

Good luck to the dev in the future!
 

AL.d

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Neither do I or most of us here who complained about that scene, it's the way the scene played out that pisses us off. The dev never mentioned anything about NTR prior to that surprise, and in a supposedly non NTR game, where the MC's supposed to be the villain, a scene like that is just plain trolling or his attempt to gain the NTR fans' support too when him catching his wife cheating on him with his supposed friend and wannabe superhero would've been enough 'motivation' for ppl to embrace the dark side, no detailed description or visual 'proof' necessary. Adding the NTR tag now will inevitably attract NTR supporters, and the dev will be forced to make more NTR scenes coz he'd lose their support if he doesn't, so it's an inevitable incoming shitstorm that could've easily been avoided with 1 or 2 sentences.
Lots of assumptions that make no sense here. No way this scene exists to "attract ntr-fans support". From what I understand, this is a revenge-ntr story. With that scene being the spark that gets the wimpy MC to change. That's the complete opposite of what most netorare fans look for in a story. They actually want their MCs to be perma-dumb cucks and on the slim chance they learn about the cucking, they just remain depressed betas. Completely the opposite from what this is supposed to be doing.

It's pretty obvious the scene is visual to evoke a stronger reaction and both make the player "hate" those characters and empathize with MC's motives. The same way you see the death of a protag's loved ones at the start of revenge-themed movie. It's one of the oldest storytelling tropes.

As for devs "interacting" (more like being bullied to submission) by fans, it is the best recipe to make a convoluted mess that satisfies no one. Because "fans" aren't a hive mind. For every loud one who keeps screaming "CHANGE THIS" there are various silent ones who just don't give enough fucks to do the same for their own preferences. Big game companies have actual in-game metrics that tell them what players actually want and it's often the opposite of what loud minorities claim. Sadly porn game devs don't have that. The ones who are truly confident in their work, don't give a fuck about what a few people in a pirate site say. And it's no accident they are the ones at the top while others grovel for a single patreon
 

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Villain's Legacy [v2.0.2] Unofficial Android Port + Gallery Unlocker

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Villain's Legacy [v2022-12-13] Unofficial Android Port + Gallery Unlocker

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Any chance you can upload this to a site that doesn't just spam invalid ticket every time you try to download (like mega or really anywhere else). The forced redirects intrusive scam ads even through ad block is quite something.
 

WerewolfSinX

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So I am going to go out on a limb here and assume that you are a sensible person, who is genuinely asking this question, and NOT some kind of neck-bearded, tribalistic troll, who cannot see past their own opinions.

Because I think you are a reasonable person, I will try to share, what is arguably a "correct" answer (or at least one that is as correct an answer as can be given to an opinion-based question, which in turn has an opinion-based answer).

The reason why there are so many VOCAL haters is that the internet in general and these forums in specific tend to act as a filtering mechanism, which only displays a small portion of a complete data set while giving the impression that said small portion IS a complete data set.

What I mean by that is, that most moderate people who are either for/against a topic simply don't post. They may say "That's cool" "Another NTR game... blah" or something similar, but the reality is that they don't care enough to voice their opinion either way.

What this means is that the majority of posts you see (specifically those discussing a kink such as NTR) are from the people who meet the two qualifiers of 1)Having a Strong Opinion and 2)Having a Strong desire to share that opinion.

Combining this basic premise with the fact that forums such as F95, only shows the data points (in this case 'opinions') which are written, and don't (read cannot) show those opinions which are 'not written'. Then add in the fact that the base numbers you are filtering this through start with the vast majority of people either have a negative or neutral view of NTR as a kink, and the result is a perception that there are (as you put it) "so many vocal haters".

To put into an example;

- Chad Morecock doesn't like NTR (or incest, femdom, or whatever), so Chad makes a point of pressing the 'ignore' button every time a "Whatever Tag" game comes up on F95.

- No one, (except maybe some Mods, or back-end data collection) see's that Chad has "Ignored" Dozens of "Whatever Tag" games over the last year.

- What forum members DO see are the times that Chad posted how he was disappointed that a game added or had "Whatever Tag", complained that a tag was missing, or made some otherwise negative comment about "Tag".

The result is the perception (from the viewpoint of forum readers) that Chad is an NTR (or Whatever) Troll/Hater. Though from Chad's own viewpoint, he generally just presses 'ignore' and moves on, only commenting on the rare occasion.


A couple of qualifiers;
-This doesn't apply to Trolls in general, of which there are many, and (like the majority) are statistically more likely to be NTR negative, or neutral, with the usual understanding that the more extreme an opinion gets, the more vocal its holder becomes.

-This also doesn't take into account that in general, the internet is anonymous and as such free of most consequences, which has a plethora of psychological effects on methods of interaction.

-English isn't my first language, and I have drank like two bottles of wine at this point, so I maybe am botching up this explanation.

As a final thought, it would be interesting to see a data point (like the reviews for each game) that showed how many people "Ignored" a game, and for what reason. Then compare that to the number of people who post comments like "I am ignoring this because of ... bla bla bla"

Anyway, there is one Frenchman's somewhat drunk, somewhat educated answer to your question...
I agree with everything you said, but I will say I've seen harem fans be a bit more mean to NTR fans. Hell I'm not a fan of either and all I ask sometimes in a thread is harem and NTR optional and I get put on an ignore list just because I like real vanilla content such as romancing one girl at a time.
 
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