Vox Gremory - DxD Parody Game [Development Thread]

[billyjoebobmartin]

To make the maps I gather references to have a (close) 360 view of it, from the material I gathered, he seems to have only a nsfw poster, the rest looks safe or hidden:
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which is not on the visible side of the wall.
That's not to say I couldn't make an interactable with it, the door is also hidden after all, but I already put an unlockable CG elsewhere for the beginning of the game.

I guess this could be an idea for a second unlockable later in the game, when he will be asked to take it down.

sounds good.

as another idea you could have him simply have more ero stuff to compliment his personality differences to his canon self no?

 

[Winterfire]

sounds good.

as another idea you could have him simply have more ero stuff to compliment his personality differences to his canon self no?

Never said he doesn't It's simply not hanging on the walls.

 

[billyjoebobmartin]

Never said he doesn't It's simply not hanging on the walls.

nor under his computer mouse. can you say with a straight face he'd pass up one of those?

hmm, funny idea but do you plan on having rias going some level of closet otaku femcel? because i got a funny idea in my head that she could've 'borrowed' (permanently) his ero stuff for a couple dif reasons. like to add to her own collection, cherish it because it was his (like how women steal shirts of their BFs), etc.

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

No, outside of the Patreon-only scenes, any heroine without a love interest is fair game. However, those will be mostly one time scenes. Raynare is the only one that officially joins his harem (At least from what I've planned so far).

Ah, fair enough, I was just thinking it 'cause when I asked earlier about other girls you said they wouldn't (Like Sona and Tsubaki for example when I asked about Sona's peerage), so I was honestly curious if that was the case XP

 

[Winterfire]

Ah, fair enough, I was just thinking it 'cause when I asked earlier about other girls you said they wouldn't (Like Sona and Tsubaki for example when I asked about Sona's peerage), so I was honestly curious if that was the case XP

Tsubaki is interested in Kiba, whereas Sona is kind of a wildcard, Saji is in love with her but she is not interested in him but other two women are interested in Saji, so I could write it off that Saji gets with one of them instead after some development.
So, while with some work Sona would be possible eventually, Tsubaki is completely off the table.

However, I was talking about unclaimed women (no one interested in them, and they are not interested in anyone), mostly humans. Not really interesting (surely not as interesting as the canon harem) but doable.

 

[billyjoebobmartin]

Tsubaki is interested in Kiba, whereas Sona is kind of a wildcard, Saji is in love with her but she is not interested in him but other two women are interested in Saji, so I could write it off that Saji gets with one of them instead after some development.
So, while with some work Sona would be possible eventually, Tsubaki is completely off the table.

However, I was talking about unclaimed women (no one interested in them, and they are not interested in anyone), mostly humans. Not really interesting (surely not as interesting as the canon harem) but doable.

hmm, i'm totally gonna be the odd duck with suggesting this.
*ahem* after issei gets encouraged (indoctrinated) by azezel and as his own harem starts to fall into place he both encourages and helps out his bros (and those interested in his bros, prob limited to just saji, gasper, and maybe kiba) get their own harems. (or a relationship at all)

i'm thinking for saji helping him directly with sona with simple things like suggesting saji request friendship outings (dates) as rewards for hard work or noticeable exploits, asking rias what kinda guys(or gals) sona's into, and other such ground work for saji to bumble his way into her heart. for the other two interested in saji, they themselves actually request issei help them after he helped saji with sona.

gasper prob doesn't need much help further than what canon issei did for him tbh, but i include him anyways.

kiba however oh boy, does he even have a sex drive? i think best bet is tsubaki requesting help like in canon (honestly can't remember all the details of that) and it comes down to issei trying to figuring out what kiba's even into in the first place. and after kiba gets a taste of sex with tsubaki he becomes more accepting to the advances of his OL and other chrismas cake summoner. occasionally even pursuing some of them himself.

back to azezel for a second, there could also be some gag like comedy involving issei being promoted in the 2 person 'japan church of poligamy' founded by azezel during his time mentoring issei. where issei goes form a lowly decon (or whatever initiate position) to a 'priest' upon him spreading the good word *cough*getting harems for his bros*cough*.

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

Tsubaki is interested in Kiba, whereas Sona is kind of a wildcard, Saji is in love with her but she is not interested in him but other two women are interested in Saji, so I could write it off that Saji gets with one of them instead after some development.
So, while with some work Sona would be possible eventually, Tsubaki is completely off the table.

However, I was talking about unclaimed women (no one interested in them, and they are not interested in anyone), mostly humans. Not really interesting (surely not as interesting as the canon harem) but doable.

Well, to be fair, Tsubaki's interest in Kiba is "Meh" at best when you consider how terrible the author is with the relationships of any girl not in the Harem, really. Kiba not only has literally paid more attention to ISSEI than to her, or any female for that matter, thorough the whole series, to the point that during the genderbent incident caused by Azazel's fancy gun "she" was Issei's girlfriend in the 'setting' where everyone but Issei and Gasper's genders had changed. And even discounting that one as nobody had done so out of their own free will, later he literally willingly used the gun again to turn into "Yumi" and dressed up as a sexy nurse just to "cheer up" Issei, so...yeah, I have never considered Tsubaki's interest in Kiba to be any more serious than any of the random background girls who likes him because he clearly, uh...has his own issues XP

As for Sona, relating to Saji, kinda the same but different, and that may be tied to my outright dislike of Saji. Mind you, I don't particularly care for Issei either nowadays like I did when I was a horny teenager, but Saji I outright dislike for how "bad" the author's writing of him in regards to relationship went...like, in a world and being part of a race that has Harems as the norms, and with his "best friend" having already like 8 fiancees (And counting), not only did Saji's obsession for Sona was beyond one-sided, but it literally blinded him so much ignoring Ruruko and Momo's feelings for him that he got Ruruko to fall out of love with him. Saji Genshirou literally fucked up so badly that he let a girl who liked him and was a fellow devil, so probably would have been easily convinced to share him, to get over him because he couldn't stop looking and fantasizing about the woman who didn't even consider him a potential partner (Hell, during one of the last volumes of the Trihexa Arc Sona literally had a 'moment' with Issei more than she ever did with Saji, that's how bad the guy's writing regarding the Vritra User went). Also, getting Sona is kinda an open door to getting Serafall, which is great IMO XD

The clarification about "unclaimed women" is kinda disappointing if understandable, if mostly because, well, outside bad guys that only appear once or get killed off/written out of the story very fast (Katerea Leviathan, Jeanne from the Hero Faction), the only girls in that situation that I can think of that aren't part of Issei's Canon Harem are indeed the human girls from Kuoh, and Seekvaria Agares (Unless you count some of the most late-series girls that almost nobody knows properly even among LN readers, like Latia, Iryuka, Rias' grandma Chysis, and Rias' OG ancestor Runeas...and they're so 'distant' from Canon that talking about them now that the game isn't even started feels probably pointless and like unneeded demand).

 

[Winterfire]

The clarification about "unclaimed women" is kinda disappointing if understandable, if mostly because, well, outside bad guys that only appear once or get killed off/written out of the story very fast (Katerea Leviathan, Jeanne from the Hero Faction), the only girls in that situation that I can think of that aren't part of Issei's Canon Harem are indeed the human girls from Kuoh, and Seekvaria Agares (Unless you count some of the most late-series girls that almost nobody knows properly even among LN readers, like Latia, Iryuka, Rias' grandma Chysis, and Rias' OG ancestor Runeas...and they're so 'distant' from Canon that talking about them now that the game isn't even started feels probably pointless and like unneeded demand).

Yeah, they would be one-off scenes, or patreon-only scenes. Realistically, I'll have my hands completely full with the main canon harem alone, which is kind of big (especially after adding Rayare in it), and that's what ultimately the majority of people care about.
I'll be (and I am) taking feedback for other heroines since as I've mentioned before, I am slowly making a GDD for single heroines parody games, so no one is really off the table as long as there's demand for it, but specifically for this game, Sona is the only doable option since she has no feelings for Saji, and he has other options.
In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Sona actually becomes canon at some point.

hmm, i'm totally gonna be the odd duck with suggesting this.
*ahem* after issei gets encouraged (indoctrinated) by azezel and as his own harem starts to fall into place he both encourages and helps out his bros (and those interested in his bros, prob limited to just saji, gasper, and maybe kiba) get their own harems. (or a relationship at all)

i'm thinking for saji helping him directly with sona with simple things like suggesting saji request friendship outings (dates) as rewards for hard work or noticeable exploits, asking rias what kinda guys(or gals) sona's into, and other such ground work for saji to bumble his way into her heart. for the other two interested in saji, they themselves actually request issei help them after he helped saji with sona.

gasper prob doesn't need much help further than what canon issei did for him tbh, but i include him anyways.

kiba however oh boy, does he even have a sex drive? i think best bet is tsubaki requesting help like in canon (honestly can't remember all the details of that) and it comes down to issei trying to figuring out what kiba's even into in the first place. and after kiba gets a taste of sex with tsubaki he becomes more accepting to the advances of his OL and other chrismas cake summoner. occasionally even pursuing some of them himself.

back to azezel for a second, there could also be some gag like comedy involving issei being promoted in the 2 person 'japan church of poligamy' founded by azezel during his time mentoring issei. where issei goes form a lowly decon (or whatever initiate position) to a 'priest' upon him spreading the good word *cough*getting harems for his bros*cough*.

I am sure most people would hate the MC helping other men getting their own harem, it'd be mostly one-liners to motivate Issei x Sona not being NTR, especially since I expect most players to having watched only the anime and being unaware that Seji has actually more options (and Sona really gives the vibes of being a canon romance at some point in the future).

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

Yeah, they would be one-off scenes, or patreon-only scenes. Realistically, I'll have my hands completely full with the main canon harem alone, which is kind of big (especially after adding Rayare in it), and that's what ultimately the majority of people care about.
I'll be (and I am) taking feedback for other heroines since as I've mentioned before, I am slowly making a GDD for single heroines parody games, so no one is really off the table as long as there's demand for it, but specifically for this game, Sona is the only doable option since she has no feelings for Saji, and he has other options.
In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Sona actually becomes canon at some point.



I am sure most people would hate the MC helping other men getting their own harem, it'd be mostly one-liners to motivate Issei x Sona not being NTR, especially since I expect most players to having watched only the anime and being unaware that Seji has actually more options (and Sona really gives the vibes of being a canon romance at some point in the future).

Fair enough I suppose, I still think my idea about Tsubaki has merit given Yuuto is written VERY blatantly to be either gay or extremely sexually confused (No 'bro' would willingly turn into his hot female form and dress up as a slutty nurse to 'cheer up' his 'bro', after all). Also, let it be said that Yumi is hot as fuck, my indifference with genderbending aside, enough to make even Issei VERY 'confused' XP

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Agree too regarding the other-guys-thing, but funnily enough not as much for the general "consensus" about people disliking motivating other harems as it's because I honestly can't see it with the other DxD male characters thanks to how the author wrote it...I already explained my dislike of Saji and Kiba's...'uniqueness', and Gasper is another quite confusing thing where you can't even say he's interested in the other sex beyond his fervent wish to save and then protect Valerie (The superior vampire waifu!). Even in the future as seen in the EX Sidestory where it shows he ends up becoming a badass manly Super Devil we get absolutely no showing or confirmation of him being interested or getting into a relationship with someone at all (Despite getting confirmations for even Le Fay and Elmehilde eventually having children with Issei in it, lol).

At least none of them is as bad as Vali "Issei awkwardly made me watch a porn video with him and I didn't get it at all" Lucifer. Is always hilarious when someone writes a fanfic trying to ship him with a girl when he's the closest thing to a confirmed asexual in the series XD

 

[Winterfire]

Fair enough I suppose, I still think my idea about Tsubaki has merit given Yuuto is written VERY blatantly to be either gay or extremely sexually confused (No 'bro' would willingly turn into his hot female form and dress up as a slutty nurse to 'cheer up' his 'bro', after all). Also, let it be said that Yumi is hot as fuck, my indifference with genderbending aside, enough to make even Issei VERY 'confused' XP

Yumi kind of feels like an off-brand Asia, similarly to how Raynare is an off-brand Akeno x)

Agree too regarding the other-guys-thing, but funnily enough not as much for the general "consensus" about people disliking motivating other harems as it's because I honestly can't see it with the other DxD male characters thanks to how the author wrote it...I already explained my dislike of Saji and Kiba's...'uniqueness', and Gasper is another quite confusing thing where you can't even say he's interested in the other sex beyond his fervent wish to save and then protect Valerie (The superior vampire waifu!). Even in the future as seen in the EX Sidestory where it shows he ends up becoming a badass manly Super Devil we get absolutely no showing or confirmation of him being interested or getting into a relationship with someone at all (Despite getting confirmations for even Le Fay and Elmehilde eventually having children with Issei in it, lol).

At least none of them is as bad as Vali "Issei awkwardly made me watch a porn video with him and I didn't get it at all" Lucifer. Is always hilarious when someone writes a fanfic trying to ship him with a girl when he's the closest thing to a confirmed asexual in the series XD

Aside from MCs in japanese animes which tend to be oblivious all the time, I think in DxD that's done on purpose to give more spotlight to Issei, which works great for a harem anime (and fangame in my case).

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

Yumi kind of feels like an off-brand Asia, similarly to how Raynare is an off-brand Akeno x)



Aside from MCs in japanese animes which tend to be oblivious all the time, I think in DxD that's done on purpose to give more spotlight to Issei, which works great for a harem anime (and fangame in my case).

I mean, fair enough, but if you dig deep enough you can really find the "off-brand-feeling" in more than one Harem member, though I suppose I don't think of Yumi as much like that because Yuuto's personality is remarkably different from Asia XD (My point also was mostly to show why Tsubaki being 'into' Kiba was kinda super-pointless as far as Canon went, but you're the author here so it should go as you think is best I suppose :3) Also, ironically, while I obviously like Akeno muuuch more, Raynare is actually the one that genuinely seems like she would do hardcore S&M sex, while despite this usually being slapped on Akeno in most fanfics is actually shockingly 'skin deep' in Canon, in fact all her attempts to get it on with Issei are surprisingly vanilla and involved none of the fetish most associate with him, or to provoke him to ravage her and/or Rias ironically, never actually having shown any disposition of wanting to get into anything S&M with Issei sexually during even her most extreme or one-on-one fanservice moments with him XP

Oh yeah, the author without a doubt made it that blatant for THAT very purpose (To the point, as mentioned, we have literally seen the likes of Grayfia and Venelana having 'moments' onscreen more with Issei than with their actual husbands, even if the former was just went drunk as fuck and the latter mostly 'harmless teasing', LMAO), but it's always fun seeing people trying to give waifus or even Harems to the other DxD boys when they're written so completely uninterested over the curse of practically the whole series (I doubt anything outside fighting can give Vali a hard-on and I'm pretty sure if Issei invited Kiba to watch porn with him for some unholy reason the latter would be more focusing on watching his reactions than the 'action' XD).

Sairaorg is one I can usually mostly 'forgive'/appreciate in that regard, aka having 2 ultra-sexy hot blondes in his Peerage and having 0 interest in them, because he's a True Chad, awesome son, and a fucking absolute unit, a bro and a trooper like no other, this guy needs no waifu or interest to still be the best

 

[Winterfire]

Also, ironically, while I obviously like Akeno muuuch more, Raynare is actually the one that genuinely seems like she would do hardcore S&M sex, while despite this usually being slapped on Akeno in most fanfics is actually shockingly 'skin deep' in Canon, in fact all her attempts to get it on with Issei are surprisingly vanilla and involved none of the fetish most associate with him, or to provoke him to ravage her and/or Rias ironically, never actually having shown any disposition of wanting to get into anything S&M with Issei sexually during even her most extreme or one-on-one fanservice moments with him XP

Akeno's character plays a lot on duality (Sadist and Masochist, Fallen Angel and Devil, ...)
There's not much about Raynare to go from, but the way I have written her stuff is pretty similar to Cassandra from Overlord.

 

[billyjoebobmartin]

I am sure most people would hate the MC helping other men getting their own harem, it'd be mostly one-liners to motivate Issei x Sona not being NTR, especially since I expect most players to having watched only the anime and being unaware that Seji has actually more options (and Sona really gives the vibes of being a canon romance at some point in the future).

idk about most people, but i do agree that there would be vocal back lash on it. but any emotional extreme disapproval to issei helping others while being receptive to azazel helping issei would make them hypocrites imo. (AlterAllius' logic and counter points aren't bad. i almost want to agree with him about tsubaki joining issei's harem as an option after a cool down period of a failed confession to kiba. kiba's really an odd case sexuality wise.)

i for one, sorta shipped saji x sona hoping he'd be successful at some point. and found the sona x issei ship to be forced. *shrug* but that's just me. though to be fair saji being fully tunnel visioned on sona did irk me. i won't lie about that.

anyways please consider my prior suggestion! making issei a bro to his friends and a demon to his enemies seems like a good power fantasy imo. even if it's just an alternate path players can choose between.

also any thoughts to the rias closet femcel stealing issei's ero stuff for herself idea? i'd like to hear more about the changes you have planned out for her.

 

[kelmor4488]

I might play around her sadistic vs masochist (with Issei only) duality since it is canon, but i've never written anything beyond vanilla, so result may vary. I wouldn't count on a decent scene if you have that fetish.

Well, its never too late to try something new

Also, I think that's the only downside to your games Dev, they have too much vanilla. The games are good in terms of graphics (despite being koikatsu) and are great plotwise, but because they are all quite long, personally I wished they were more diversed in terms of fetishes.
And because High School DxD is an echhi anime, almost every characters has some fetishes or special erotic scenes with them, so its offers a lot of options to explore.

Anyway good luck with development

 

[Winterfire]

idk about most people, but i do agree that there would be vocal back lash on it. but any emotional extreme disapproval to issei helping others while being receptive to azazel helping issei would make them hypocrites imo. (AlterAllius' logic and counter points aren't bad. i almost want to agree with him about tsubaki joining issei's harem as an option after a cool down period of a failed confession to kiba. kiba's really an odd case sexuality wise.)

i for one, sorta shipped saji x sona hoping he'd be successful at some point. and found the sona x issei ship to be forced. *shrug* but that's just me. though to be fair saji being fully tunnel visioned on sona did irk me. i won't lie about that.

Many people ship Saji x Sona, that's why it is kind of risky for me to add Issei x Sona, even though from my point of view it is very likely Sona will actually become canon while there's no chance for Tsubaki to ever lose interest in Kiba.
Either way, Sona would be very late in game if that happened.

My focus is covering the canon harem (+ Raynare), I start games with the intent of completing them, and DxD so far is my biggest undertaking (with 25 volumes to cover), so I have no doubts I'll have to cut some stuff (even things I might enjoy or agree with) to make sure the game will actually be completed.
Still, I am fairly confident that given enough time, I'll be able to make most people happy as I'll be making some side games to cover the missing heroines.

anyways please consider my prior suggestion! making issei a bro to his friends and a demon to his enemies seems like a good power fantasy imo. even if it's just an alternate path players can choose between.

also any thoughts to the rias closet femcel stealing issei's ero stuff for herself idea? i'd like to hear more about the changes you have planned out for her.

I do not know what "femcel" means, but the only changes I've made are to Issei and custom content for Raynare since her character is pretty lacking for obvious reasons, the other characters will be as close as possible to the source (or at least my understanding of it).

Well, its never too late to try something new

Also, I think that's the only downside to your games Dev, they have too much vanilla. The games are good in terms of graphics (despite being koikatsu) and are great plotwise, but because they are all quite long, personally I wished they were more diversed in terms of fetishes.
And because High School DxD is an echhi anime, almost every characters has some fetishes or special erotic scenes with them, so its offers a lot of options to explore.

Anyway good luck with development

Yeah, unfortunately that's my weakpoint I am really vanilla and do not understand most fetishes, whereas other fetishes I find to be pretty gross.

I'll try different things for sure though, given that there are so many volumes to cover and some heroines (such as Rias) happen relatively at the beginning, it would be pretty boring for everyone involved if she had the same/similar scenes.

 

[billyjoebobmartin]

I do not know what "femcel" means, but the only changes I've made are to Issei and custom content for Raynare since her character is pretty lacking for obvious reasons, the other characters will be as close as possible to the source (or at least my understanding of it).

femcel = female incel. might not have been the best choice in description on my part. *shrug* but i was picturing her otaku side being emboldened in this game as i vaguely remembered you mentioning you wanted to expand on rias' personality some long while ago but never mentioned in what direction.

 

[Winterfire]

femcel = female incel. might not have been the best choice in description on my part. *shrug* but i was picturing her otaku side being emboldened in this game as i vaguely remembered you mentioning you wanted to expand on rias' personality some long while ago but never mentioned in what direction.

Rias? I do not remember that, but the main cast needs no expanding. In fact, the closer they are to the source, the better imho. I do not like parodies where the characters do not act remotely close to the original.

Canon Rias likes video games, and she is an otaku when it comes to Japanese culture. However, I do not remember her being particularly interested in eroge.

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

Many people ship Saji x Sona, that's why it is kind of risky for me to add Issei x Sona, even though from my point of view it is very likely Sona will actually become canon while there's no chance for Tsubaki to ever lose interest in Kiba.
Either way, Sona would be very late in game if that happened.

My focus is covering the canon harem (+ Raynare), I start games with the intent of completing them, and DxD so far is my biggest undertaking (with 25 volumes to cover), so I have no doubts I'll have to cut some stuff (even things I might enjoy or agree with) to make sure the game will actually be completed.
Still, I am fairly confident that given enough time, I'll be able to make most people happy as I'll be making some side games to cover the missing heroines.



I do not know what "femcel" means, but the only changes I've made are to Issei and custom content for Raynare since her character is pretty lacking for obvious reasons, the other characters will be as close as possible to the source (or at least my understanding of it).



Yeah, unfortunately that's my weakpoint I am really vanilla and do not understand most fetishes, whereas other fetishes I find to be pretty gross.

I'll try different things for sure though, given that there are so many volumes to cover and some heroines (such as Rias) happen relatively at the beginning, it would be pretty boring for everyone involved if she had the same/similar scenes.

As someone who actually likes Vanilla Harem and appreciates when, at least to the degree writing a Hentai allows, the characters are written close to the source, I think you're doing an amazing job. Especially regarding Rias, when like 90% of fanfiction out there mischaracterizes her in the most horrible ways XP

 

[billyjoebobmartin]

Rias? I do not remember that, but the main cast needs no expanding. In fact, the closer they are to the source, the better imho. I do not like parodies where the characters do not act remotely close to the original.

Canon Rias likes video games, and she is an otaku when it comes to Japanese culture. However, I do not remember her being particularly interested in eroge.

ah, i just remembered. in my sleepiness i confused you with a author i know who made a DxD fanfic novel. my bad winter. he was making rias a closet anime nerd to expand on her rather basic character.

alright enough stalling my pillow needs to meet my head.

 

[Winterfire]

ah, i just remembered. in my sleepiness i confused you with a author i know who made a DxD fanfic novel. my bad winter. he was making rias a closet anime nerd to expand on her rather basic character.

alright enough stalling my pillow needs to meet my head.

To be fair, Rias is kind of nerdish in some ways, just not when it comes to Eroge