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VN Ren'Py Vulgar Reverie [v0.09a] [Saxonado Studios]

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Poundar

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Nope since the beginning I said I like Nts as much as I like Ntr. But it seems it's only possible for NTS Fan to like NTS only...
I'll start by stating that I like both as well, but I want them kept separate. While both NTR and NTS deal with similar content, their target audiences and themes are vastly different. Mixing the 2 ends up with NTR fans happy that another NTS -> NTR mess is added to the existing giant pile, while NTS fans have to spurn another game they used to enjoy.

Most of the financial supporters of the game don't want NTR introduced and the Dev has stated several times that there won't be any NTR content. There's plenty of games that have both and would better suit your tastes. There are very few NTS games that don't have NTR, Cheating, etc... and we'd like to not have another one ruined. Hence why you and others get so much pushback.
 

Pleades

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I'll start by stating that I like both as well, but I want them kept separate. While both NTR and NTS deal with similar content, their target audiences and themes are vastly different. Mixing the 2 ends up with NTR fans happy that another NTS -> NTR mess is added to the existing giant pile, while NTS fans have to spurn another game they used to enjoy.

Most of the financial supporters of the game don't want NTR introduced and the Dev has stated several times that there won't be any NTR content. There's plenty of games that have both and would better suit your tastes. There are very few NTS games that don't have NTR, Cheating, etc... and we'd like to not have another one ruined. Hence why you and others get so much pushback.
This is the type of reply that I like, no kink shame, nor being derisive or trying to make me feel like the bad guy, saying I don't respect others or that I'm trying to push the game in a direction that the people don't want to. I know that the devs said NTS only and I don't mind I said it since the beginning but it seems like it's going in one ear and exiting the other one for certain people. I just hoped that it would seem like a harmless opinion that people would respect even if it didn't fit their own. But like I said it seems like NTS lover hate for NTR is a deep one haha...i didn't know before.
 
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r3i97dan2

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To the dev: if you're going to do screen shake, please include an option to turn it off. I'm not gonna complain that screen shake is horribly overused here, even though I think it is, because it won't matter if it is or isn't if I don't have to see it. The emotional impact of such recherché prose as "..?!" will not be lessened if the dialog box isn't trying to throw you off like an agitated bronco.
 

MemeKiddo420

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genericplant

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bruh no please, i want the autor to continue the game and the money is one principal motivation if u do that you're supporting the developer to left the game abandoned don't do that, is only 7 bucks bro or wait 2 weeks the game is being uptade pretty fast and a one high quality is don't worth it messing up saxonado work
Yes, and we'll just have to wait for the next update anyway
 

Sickduckk

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bruh no please, i want the autor to continue the game and the money is one principal motivation if u do that you're supporting the developer to left the game abandoned don't do that, is only 7 bucks bro or wait 2 weeks the game is being uptade pretty fast and a one high quality is don't worth it messing up saxonado work
If you can afford and want to show support to the creator, go do so. But this site allows for pirated content, so people are going to ask for more of it.
 
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starthrow

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But like I said it seems like NTS lover hate for NTR is a deep one haha...i didn't know before.
I might be the outlier in that I don't like NTR because I think it's boring. If you've played the right 2 NTR games, you've kind of played them all. There's very little variation. The MC is clueless, weak, and spineless, the antagonist is a manipulative psychopath, and the wife is naive simpleton who loses her marbles because of drugs/big dick magic. The story always ends with the MC being abandoned, or remaining clueless as the wife continues to cheat on him, usually by getting pregnant with the other guy's child. The characters seem to exist in a vacuum with no real worldbuilding, the side characters(if there are any at all) act like disconnected sociopaths, and the narrative almost never seems to have consequences or cause>effect attached to it beyond the one grand narrative trope.

There's a couple of Japanese games/stories that are delineated from these worn out trends which I rather enjoy, like the side characters acting like real human beings leading to consequences for the wife, or the MC learning the truth and deciding to start fighting back, or having a psychotic break and going scorched earth. But these elements are utterly missing from western NTR. This is where the self-described "NTR Fans" come in and keep the genre stuck in the narrative stone age. Try and suggest any kind of variation to the narrative structure, like MC's revenge, or at the very least the world coming back to bite them in the ass; and you get brigaded by braindead "NTR Fans" who seem to like playing the same thing reskinned 1000 times, and think that expanding the genre beyond it's now tired tropes is "attacking the kink", or whatever. Then these people go into NTS games/threads/whatever and try to get it to become an NTR game, which annoys me to no end.

If hard NTR had a better fanbase and better story writers, I'd enjoy it. However with the exception of individual people like yourself(assuming you are one), as a collective group/genre; NTR is the cesspit of adult games, and it's not because of the 'kink' or whatever. That's how basically everyone who isn't in it sees it, including the vast majority of NTS fans, who also have to put up with being lumped in with the hard NTR at every turn as well, which gets tired really fast. This shit website(and pretty much everywhere else) STILL hasn't split the NTR tag into NTR-NTS-NTI, yet, which adds fuel to the fire of this problem.
 

mok135

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After playing 0.05 update, I can say for sure that I really don't like Geist as a sharing partner. His and Amelia's relationship is written as some variation of a father-daughter relationship. As a result their sexual interactions and flirting feel weird and out of place.
 
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elcap23

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If you can afford and want to show support to the creator, go do so. But this site allows for pirated content, so people are going to ask for more of it.
I know bro, remember that this site is bought for Patreon idk about 2 or 3 months ago, so I think that's the reason for less leaks of patreon games
 

perkel666

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I might be the outlier in that I don't like NTR because I think it's boring. If you've played the right 2 NTR games, you've kind of played them all. There's very little variation. The MC is clueless, weak, and spineless, the antagonist is a manipulative psychopath, and the wife is naive simpleton who loses her marbles because of drugs/big dick magic. The story always ends with the MC being abandoned, or remaining clueless as the wife continues to cheat on him, usually by getting pregnant with the other guy's child. The characters seem to exist in a vacuum with no real worldbuilding, the side characters(if there are any at all) act like disconnected sociopaths, and the narrative almost never seems to have consequences or cause>effect attached to it beyond the one grand narrative trope.
Well... I think the issue here is that it is very hard to find good NTR game. In general it is actually hard to find something great in porn/erotic genre that doesn't follow tropes. Moreover even if game follow trope there is also degree of quality involved. So game with tropes =/= game with tropes.

I wasn't keen on the genre at start precisely for the reasons you stated but then i found some good games and then it 'clicked'. I think the main reason why people started to care about NTR much is that the stories/characters/events etc. usually are just much better than in traditional vanilla porn games. NTR game isn't good if characters involved are shit or the situation is idiotic etc. Obviously ton of people don't like to think in their porn games but imho NTR genre seems to get a lot of games that do in fact take care for their characters/stories/situations etc.

Imho NTR games became just porn games with focus on story and character development rather than just on tit/dick pics. There are plenty of simple dick pics games out there for those who don't need a hook for the game.
 
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