VN Ren'Py Vulgar Reverie [v0.16 P1] [Saxonado Studios]

[GAIGEI]

They have an oddly inefficient way of development. Each release is delayed yet rushed out buggy with several typos. I have no idea what the assistant does in this whole process.

For several months they have been trying to streamline their process to be more efficient including getting an assistant yet there seems to be no tangible change.

 

[Hazystomp]

The most Professional developers I have seen is Azeinda.
I hope the update is good.

 

[Hopeless DIO]

They have an oddly inefficient way of development. Each release is delayed yet rushed out buggy with several typos. I have no idea what the assistant does in this whole process.

For several months they have been trying to streamline their process to be more efficient including getting an assistant yet there seems to be no tangible change.

I was a defender for the longest but yea…. We as patrons had voted for a once a month release, and how many of the recent releases have actually stuck to that? I cancelled my subscription over it, like I get life happens but if you hire a whole other person, and it keeps happening I’m just wondering what the new hire is doing?

 

[Kira6996]

The most Professional developers I have seen is Azeinda.
I hope the update is good.

Azienda? His new game is really hot

 

[descon456]

They have an oddly inefficient way of development. Each release is delayed yet rushed out buggy with several typos. I have no idea what the assistant does in this whole process.

For several months they have been trying to streamline their process to be more efficient including getting an assistant yet there seems to be no tangible change.

It's nothing new. I always know that the update will be delayed, no matter what. Always something happens, and then we get the release few days or even a week after. I got used to that, this fact will probably never change.

 

[Neonviolet]

It's nothing new. I always know that the update will be delayed, no matter what. Always something happens, and then we get the release few days or even a week after. I got used to that, this fact will probably never change.

To be fair at this point it's just excuses for it to be delayed because he didn't finish the update every month is the but the account that everything is real I'm sorry thats really the case

 

[Kilikxx]

There are still no animations, right?

 

[GAIGEI]

I was a defender for the longest but yea…. We as patrons had voted for a once a month release, and how many of the recent releases have actually stuck to that? I cancelled my subscription over it, like I get life happens but if you hire a whole other person, and it keeps happening I’m just wondering what the new hire is doing?

I'm more scratching my head wondering what Saxxy's workflow is like? I was also an early supporter but stopped when I noticed that Saxxy seems to only do the bulk of work during the last week before release.

Despite promising a release this weekend, Saxxy wrote on their discord that he isn't available this weekend to work on the game due to his job. That's fine, real life takes priority, but what was he doing the month prior?

Was he planning on crunching all weekend to rush out the update? Surely incremental progress over time is better than this? Does he wait for the artist Karman to finish the 2 brand new pieces of artwork per update before even starting coding?

Surely he can work on the game using placeholder assets then replacing them with the new art later.

 

[descon456]

To be fair at this point it's just excuses for it to be delayed because he didn't finish the update every month is the but the account that everything is real I'm sorry thats really the case

yep I think so too, sometimes I think that he gets sick too often..

 

[bobtrevor]

yeah idk karman even with physical injuries took only an extra week to catch up on art. saxxy is always the biggest reason for delays when he was the easiest job by far - renpy is not that difficult and the amount of writing the story gets per update should not be taking this long. love this game but at this point saxxy needs to realize he’s being paid close to $2000 per month to simply keep up with monthly updates

 

[bobtrevor]

also the animations are nice but if saxxy can’t even keep up with monthly updates that money is better spent bringing on an extra writer or programmer

 

[AutumnLeaf1]

I hope people don’t be too hard on Karmanseph (the artist). Most of the delays that have happened so far are because of Saxxy. If you read through the Patreon posts, Karman always delivers on time. I feel like the whole project is being dragged down by Saxxy. It will be a lot worse from now on because he got a promotion and has a bigger workload. Also, do people really think they can deliver a brief update in 4 weeks? Even if he delivers, basic math alone makes it obvious that the overall development progress gets hampered because of the decreased dev time due to the workload. A lot of people will agree that the art is stronger than the story in this game. Karman is a talented guy, and it pains me because he deserves better. Considering the quality of the art, the Patreon earnings should be way higher. I believe he lives in Argentina, where the smaller share of earnings he gets from the studio is still probably enough.


Also, I want to chime in on the Renpy engine. I have dabbled with Unity, RPGM, and Renpy, Renpy is by far the easiest engine to work with and it’s not even close. I don’t see how, after giving a recent update about the art/story being mostly complete, they suddenly need to delay the game by 2 more weeks. The update post was either a lie or they faced problems with the writing. Saxxy has failed to meet deadlines for the past 6/7 months. At this point, I’m glad I cancelled my sub.


Personally, I hope they finish VR soon since it’s clear that one of the members isn’t as committed as the other which could cause the overall quality to decline over time. Also, I’d love to see Karman move on to a project with real potential and a dedicated team. Alternatively, he could even create his own game using Renpy, it’s not that hard to learn and I’d happily sub to him if he did.

 

[doldol123454321]

I hope people don’t be too hard on Karmanseph (the artist). Most of the delays that have happened so far are because of Saxxy. If you read through the Patreon posts, Karman always delivers on time. I feel like the whole project is being dragged down by Saxxy. It will be a lot worse from now on because he got a promotion and has a bigger workload. Also, do people really think they can deliver a brief update in 4 weeks? Even if he delivers, basic math alone makes it obvious that the overall development progress gets hampered because of the decreased dev time due to the workload. A lot of people will agree that the art is stronger than the story in this game. Karman is a talented guy, and it pains me because he deserves better. Considering the quality of the art, the Patreon earnings should be way higher. I believe he lives in Argentina, where the smaller share of earnings he gets from the studio is still probably enough.


Also, I want to chime in on the Renpy engine. I have dabbled with Unity, RPGM, and Renpy, Renpy is by far the easiest engine to work with and it’s not even close. I don’t see how, after giving a recent update about the art/story being mostly complete, they suddenly need to delay the game by 2 more weeks. The update post was either a lie or they faced problems with the writing. Saxxy has failed to meet deadlines for the past 6/7 months. At this point, I’m glad I cancelled my sub.


Personally, I hope they finish VR soon since it’s clear that one of the members isn’t as committed as the other which could cause the overall quality to decline over time. Also, I’d love to see Karman move on to a project with real potential and a dedicated team. Alternatively, he could even create his own game using Renpy, it’s not that hard to learn and I’d happily sub to him if he did.

I agree. As someone who's been supporting for a year now, let me say this: posts asking to vote on update dates have been popping up frequently, and I always voted. Yet, it's been well over half a year without any action. And sure enough, they said this 0.16 version would be split into two parts too, promising the first part would update this weekend. But once again, they didn't deliver. Karmanseph is the only one who's pitiful. Looking at what Karmanseph says on Discord, he only keeps repeating that weekends are when Saxxy can't be used. He only cares about his main job and treats the money from backers like trash. He's following the same path as Tori, the worst developer. Once or twice might be forgivable, but as these incidents pile up, trust is eroding and the game's direction is becoming utterly hopeless. I'll stick around just for this arc, but then I'm leaving too.

 

[obaid124]

If I don't pay I'm not allowed to criticize the dev. Every delay is worth the wait. His story is unique that's why so much criticism otherwise straight sex doesn't excite. Wait for a couple of updates then play. I support Saxxy you have a life outside this game but if i was paying i would have made you my slave but beggars can't be choosers so take your time and surprise us by not abandoning this project

 

[GAIGEI]

I feel like Saxxy is becoming less and less motivated barely even doing the bare minimum to communicate. With the artist Karman having to step up on multiple occasion to keep everyone informed on what is happening when he goes silent both on Discord and Patreon.

 

[GAIGEI]

I hope people don’t be too hard on Karmanseph (the artist). Most of the delays that have happened so far are because of Saxxy. If you read through the Patreon posts, Karman always delivers on time. I feel like the whole project is being dragged down by Saxxy. It will be a lot worse from now on because he got a promotion and has a bigger workload. Also, do people really think they can deliver a brief update in 4 weeks? Even if he delivers, basic math alone makes it obvious that the overall development progress gets hampered because of the decreased dev time due to the workload. A lot of people will agree that the art is stronger than the story in this game. Karman is a talented guy, and it pains me because he deserves better. Considering the quality of the art, the Patreon earnings should be way higher. I believe he lives in Argentina, where the smaller share of earnings he gets from the studio is still probably enough.


Also, I want to chime in on the Renpy engine. I have dabbled with Unity, RPGM, and Renpy, Renpy is by far the easiest engine to work with and it’s not even close. I don’t see how, after giving a recent update about the art/story being mostly complete, they suddenly need to delay the game by 2 more weeks. The update post was either a lie or they faced problems with the writing. Saxxy has failed to meet deadlines for the past 6/7 months. At this point, I’m glad I cancelled my sub.


Personally, I hope they finish VR soon since it’s clear that one of the members isn’t as committed as the other which could cause the overall quality to decline over time. Also, I’d love to see Karman move on to a project with real potential and a dedicated team. Alternatively, he could even create his own game using Renpy, it’s not that hard to learn and I’d happily sub to him if he did.

Yeah, I have zero complaints about the artist Karmanseph, their work is great and their work ethic has also been very consistent. It's Saxxy that I am more critical of since I believe he has the easiest job of the both of them. Again how hard is it to write and do some preliminary sprite posing in Renpy during the month and a half while waiting for the new art?

 

[John Doe Jr.]

I've seen this happen time and time again and 9/10 times when a game starts missing a ton of deadlines it's usually not far off from being abandoned

 

[rotumba]

to be fair i don't think i've ever seen them hit their deadline lol. also where's this about a fever and two week delay? I don't see it in the discord.

 

[descon456]

to be fair i don't think i've ever seen them hit their deadline lol. also where's this about a fever and two week delay? I don't see it in the discord.

It's a bait definitely, just to annoy people. About the delay, I'm really worried about this update. The preview is also really concerning, only shows a part of Freya cleavage Earlier it was some way spicier stuff, but this? Yeah you need some miracle to impress me, especially when this update is going to be split in two. I will never forget vanilla normies manipulating saxxo to change his point of view Last update was only a cliffhanger, I hope we get SOMETHING RELATED TO REAL NTS in the upcoming release

 

[Kilikxx]

also the animations are nice but if saxxy can’t even keep up with monthly updates that money is better spent bringing on an extra writer or programmer

There are no animations. At least, not in everything I've played.