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gilgamesh9

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I love Karman's style. It's rare to find an artist online now that aren't taking inspirations from other (more popular artists) without straight up copying. I remember a year or two ago, when there were barely any NTS games around aside from a handful of Japanese ones, when I was just begging for NTS to become a thing and, with it, that we'd get a game that had a wife with a breedable body. Lo and behold, my prayers were answered with this game. I owe my gratitude to Saxonado and Karman, and therefore I've been subbed to them since about May at this point.

At the risk of sounding like I'm shilling hard af right now, I will say if there is one thing I can feel good about in my life, it's supporting a creative writer and artist. Even if it's for a selfish motive, i.e. to fap. :LOL:
And now with ai art they are fucking everywhere popping up everyday. All the same, characters looking the same story similar. This is a rare one indeed.
 

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That was good introduction for new arc. Art is great and I really liked the scene at end especially the fact that it's mc that brings up the raceplay. Only negative thing I can think of is that on sub path you can't opt out of raceplay. I would have expected that to happen if you had picked up the "hardcore humiliation" option.
 

HappyCrab

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And now with ai art they are fucking everywhere popping up everyday. All the same, characters looking the same story similar. This is a rare one indeed.
Took the words out of my mouth! I don't mind a quick nut to a sloppy AI game, certainly if it at least has an okay story, but one should take a moment while looking at Karman's art to appreciate the work he actually puts in. Easy to forget that in other cases, the creator just pushes a "generate" button and that's more or less it, with some editing at best. This is a really unique game and I hope that those who take issue with the game will just instead shut up and go away over time. :D

Btw, as a reminder to those on the edge of supporting Saxo: if we reach a certain milestone we'll start getting animated scenes. Can you imagine?! If not, refer to my pfp as my thoughts on that. ;)
 
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I think people just immediately associate interracial with tropes like the MC having a tiny dick and the black guy having a comically large one that the girl immediately can't live without, among other things. It definitely gets stale really fast and just fetishizes black people.
That happens in almost every Netorare, BBC or not lol. Haven't played many Netorase games so I haven't encountered that situation where they can't live without BBC but I remember the artist one time said on discord that he gave MC a competitive sized dick so there might be longer or smaller dicks but he won't be "so tiny that he can't satisfy her"
 

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Took the words out of my mouth! I don't mind a quick nut to a sloppy AI game, certainly if it at least has an okay story, but one should take a moment while looking at Karman's art to appreciate the work he actually puts in. Easy to forget that in other cases, the creator just pushes a "generate" button and that's more or less it, with some editing at best. This is a really unique game and I hope that those who take issue with the game will just instead shut up and go away over time. :D

Btw, as a reminder to those on the edge of supporting Saxo: if we reach a certain milestone we'll start getting animated scenes. Can you imagine?! If not, refer to my pfp as my thoughts on that. ;)
Yea and sadly ive seen way better ai art on rule34 then majority of stuff on here:p. I am one of tthose thats been so burnt by devs that i cant see myself supporting any anymore because everytime i do they fall off. It happens with all of them at some point.... Will here to sadly.
 

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Yea and sadly ive seen way better ai art on rule34 then majority of stuff on here:p. I am one of tthose thats been so burnt by devs that i cant see myself supporting any anymore because everytime i do they fall off. It happens with all of them at some point.... Will here to sadly.
I get why you would have that attitude after supporting and having them turn their backs to the project, but Saxonado's ambition and commitment to this game reminds me of the creators of Turning the Page (their name slips my mind). Saxo is a smaller team, with only two people, so they need more time. But I see no signs, at this point in time, why they would turn away from this project. Saxo clearly has a lot of love and thought put into both the characters and the story, and he is listening to his audience while still clearly keeping in mind that you can't please everyone. If you're subbed to the patreon, you'll know how much he interacts with the community on there. First day I subbed, I sent him a DM on patreon and he answered the same day! I hope you find the same faith in Saxo/Karman that I have. :)
 

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Btw I find it funny that ever since I found this game every update there's a new discussion about being worried for unexpected twists in the story but at the end everything goes as planned. Maybe the real NTS is the theories you made all along.
 

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I think people just immediately associate interracial with tropes like the MC having a tiny dick and the black guy having a comically large one that the girl immediately can't live without, among other things. It definitely gets stale really fast and just fetishizes black people.
Well, the MC usually always has a tiny dick in NTR games and that's the genre where the girl gets stolen or w/e, so when there's a black guy he's naturally gonna have a massive cock.

I'm gonna be honest. I don't think people who love looking at women get sexualized and destroyed/raped at every turn in a place like this suddenly grew a conscience specifically for black people. I think there's a lot of insecurity here. It's obviously not everyone but I think a lot of it is. Because when you have a black dude he almost always looks perfect. Perfect looks, perfect body and cock. Who's gonna feel insecure about a fat old guy, or a shota, or a homeless bum? Those are pretty unrealistic. Well maybe except the fat guy.

But there's also another point. You pretty much never, ever have a game with a black MC. I can think two games on the back of my head that have one, and one is actually pretty recent, while the other one lets you choose between a white dude or a black dude with an afro. So there's not much diversity to choose from when it comes to protagonists, while the antagonists usually always have to fill some kind of standard.

Back in the day, I remember whenever I saw interracial art there was always people complaining about it in the comments (in a very fucked up way), some even went as far as to harass artists who drew that, and some artists pushed back by making way more of that. It's pretty mild now though.
 
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Btw I find it funny that ever since I found this game every update there's a new discussion about being worried for unexpected twists in the story but at the end everything goes as planned. Maybe the real NTS is the theories you made all along.
I haven't played update yet but it's mainly from being jebaited in stories and these vn. I basically check the end now to make sure I don't get bs. It sucks if good new authors have to pay the schizo toll for it but it is what it is.
 

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For me the fit White/black attractive guy has been done so much that it has to be extreme to really hit hard. The fat guy/shota tends to hit harder because its more unrealistic so to speak. But honestly realistically women even cheat on the big dick black guys also. Never enough even when they have everything lol. But yea some people tend to go overboard with the complaining. As long as it is done well i have no complaints. Like how Home prisoner is a game that could be the best ntr game because even though so little has happened it gets you in those feels so hard but that dev sadly is going nowhere fast. Kinda went in a different direction lol:LOL:
 

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I think with this one instead of adding someone new we should have went back the to the ex that came by. There was already an attraction there and think could have been better but that just my opinion. And truthfully its already slowly turning more of ntr then nts hate to say. Deliverance is one of the only games that did nts well imo.
 
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Over a month since the last story update and we get about... 15 minutes of new content and like 4 new images total? Oh and it's all teasing btw.

Grand.
 
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Also I don't understand the interracial fetish discourse going on here. It is entirely optional in the game itself. Why are people getting worked up over something that is completely avoidable if you don't want to see it? lol
 

HappyCrab

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Over a month since the last story update and we get about... 15 minutes of new content and like 4 new images total? Oh and it's all teasing btw.

Grand.
I think it's easy to forget that this is a game in progress. Had you played any other game in development while it's still not even in alpha (technically), you would not be so quick to judge. If you try to envision what this part of the story is going to be in its entirety, with the full story-building, I think it's going to be more difficult to make the same judgment. Some people here have the right idea; it might be good to skip this if you're going to be easily offended that the creators focused on story-building for this time. For me, it's what's going to make the climactic scene(s) all the hotter.
 

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Over a month since the last story update and we get about... 15 minutes of new content and like 4 new images total? Oh and it's all teasing btw.

Grand.
Yeah he's fucking drawing masterpieces from scratch, writing, coding, proofreading, etc... and not phoning in a single moment of it. It's called hard work.
 
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