VN Ren'Py Vulgar Reverie [v0.16 P1] [Saxonado Studios]

[wmrxd]

But the issue is, even as someone who prefers the passive route, the update felt more like ntr and cheating.

I think I also agree with you in part, for me it flirts with ntr, but for others it doesn't even come close, as a person who prefers a more dominant MC I see what you say, I believe that this last scene was not done in the best way, some dialogues and a few other things were missing, but there are people who liked it, that's why I reinforce the argument of two routes.

 

[Waterfally]

Reading this thread is always a joy. You know a NTS game is good when you have all the cucks and I put emphasis on that because that's what you lot most likely are (No shame, I like that shit too lads.) self-inserting them so hard that naturally speaking, when the MC/FMC don't perfectly nail their very specific fantasy/style of NTS/Swinging/Cuckold they start to throw "hissy fits" about the direction, or routes, or wathever infinitely small detail doesn't quite hit for them.

At the end of the day. The developers are making a game, and writing a story, I'd wager it's absolutely unrealistic to expect for every single bit of the thing to cater to you personally. Would I have prefered MC to give it to her after Jack? Yes. Does that make it any less NTS because it wasn't my shit? No.

 

[quandin]

People are talking about a nts game leaning more towards ntr than nts. Maybe you should try understanding own your point better before commenting. If discussions about the game bother you, you are free to not look at them.

But the issue is, even as someone who prefers the passive route, the update felt more like ntr and cheating.

Its cause that's what the mc enjoys, the thrill of it, do you read what the game puts out or are you just rage baiting?

 

[pirohiro]

The enduring weakness of fake netorase fans.

They want the waifu to take dick. But they are the first to cry netorare ... even when play acting is a core part of netorase.

It's like going to see your favourite magician and then booing when he pretends to mess up. It is just so tiring.

 

[mase88]

The enduring weakness of fake netorase fans.

They want the waifu to take dick. But they are the first to cry netorare ... even when play acting is a core part of netorase.

It's like going to see your favourite magician and then booing when he pretends to mess up. It is just so tiring.

Can we atleast agree its on both sides, NTR fans coming to Netorase games thread to pretend to like Netorase but mostly want a bad ending and that some guy stealing the wife/girlfriend, but it is also true that sometimes Netorase fans are to sensitive and always see hard ntr everywhere.

 

[NTR Sommelier]

Japanese definition of Netorase, taken from the jp wiki article on 寝取られ:

寝取らせ男性自らが自分の恋人や妻を他の男性に抱かせて、精神的な性的快感や嗜虐感を得るというジャンルの作品を指す。

Translation: "Netorase" refers to a genre of works where a man deliberately allows his partner or wife to be intimate with another man, deriving mental sexual pleasure or a sense of masochistic satisfaction from the experience.

The word 嗜虐感 (Shigyakukan) refers to the feeling of deriving pleasure, often psychological or sexual, from acts involving cruelty, humiliation, or the infliction of pain (whether emotional or physical) on oneself or others. It is closely related to the concept of masochism or sadism, depending on the context.

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Vulgar Reverie is doing nothing wrong. It is a true NTS. Tourists need to stop trying to impose swinging/vanilla sharing/stag&vixen, etc onto NTS.

 

[leznuvar777]

Amelia needs to fuck unattractive men, not just young good looking studs

 

[TheDuke9999]

Amelia needs to fuck unattractive men, not just young good looking studs

totally.. we need to find some 90 year old guys that can barely stand to smash it too like every other VN .. thats so hot

 

[wmrxd]

Japanese definition of Netorase, taken from the jp wiki article on 寝取られ:

寝取らせ男性自らが自分の恋人や妻を他の男性に抱かせて、精神的な性的快感や嗜虐感を得るというジャンルの作品を指す。

Translation: "Netorase" refers to a genre of works where a man deliberately allows his partner or wife to be intimate with another man, deriving mental sexual pleasure or a sense of masochistic satisfaction from the experience.

The word 嗜虐感 (Shigyakukan) refers to the feeling of deriving pleasure, often psychological or sexual, from acts involving cruelty, humiliation, or the infliction of pain (whether emotional or physical) on oneself or others. It is closely related to the concept of masochism or sadism, depending on the context.

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Vulgar Reverie is doing nothing wrong. It is a true NTS. Tourists need to stop trying to impose swinging/vanilla sharing/stag&vixen, etc onto NTS.

ok you have your interpretation, we don't have ours and that's okay bro, everyone is free to give their opinion at least I think so, you prefer something more Japanese NTS I prefer more stag/vixen and both are in the NTS genre, one harder and the other not so much and that's okay, you can't come here and tell us what we have to do/say the topic is free for us to give our opinion, like you who like something harder didn't like the first version of the scene with Jack and stayed here complaining for days until the dev changed it.

 

[Owlearyn]

Come on guys, you do understand the problem some of us are having isn't about Vulgar Reverie "diverting from NTS" and becoming NTR? Nah, that's just bullshit. Amelia teased the MC she might fuck someone on that conference. MC knew it, so no NTR.
BUT, he had no balls to tell her he isn't sure about that. And now that's the fucking problem people are having here (at least the way I see it). In the "dom route" we have an MC who can't fucking tell about his fears in the fucking kink where mutual trust and understanding are the most fucking important.
I kinda also have a problem that Amelia didn't ask the MC for reassurance this time as it's just the second fucking time she's with another man, and yet it felt like she's a damn veteran of this kink in the update.

 

[Xill]

ok you have your interpretation, we don't have ours and that's okay bro, everyone is free to give their opinion at least I think so, you prefer something more Japanese NTS I prefer more stag/vixen and both are in the NTS genre, one harder and the other not so much and that's okay, you can't come here and tell us what we have to do/say the topic is free for us to give our opinion, like you who like something harder didn't like the first version of the scene with Jack and stayed here complaining for days until the dev changed it.

Instead of talking about what you guys like or dislike, why is no one talking about what the dev likes? What he wants to make? Why are people going into threads and telling everyone how they don't like something and want it to change? What about what the dev wants?

I played a game called "My mother Kyoko." I hated the story, but I didn't go around telling the dev to change it to my liking.

 

[mase88]

Instead of talking about what you guys like or dislike, why is no one talking about what the dev likes? What he wants to make? Why are people going into threads and telling everyone how they don't like something and want it to change? What about what the dev wants?

I played a game called "My mother Kyoko." I hated the story, but I didn't go around telling the dev to change it to my liking.

Or we look at the patreon from the dev and look how he described his game and this exactly why i support this game i dont like when Netorase turns to hard NTR so im glad with how he plans to make this game.

 

[SlapE]

I wouldn't had a problem of the developer had warned ahead that this eventualy would been a cuck game and not swinging/sharing, also in beginning he did clearly stated there be a dominant path and submissive path, I was so far on the dominant path and i liked the vn till those last 2 events. I respect players that into humilating cuck games, if that is their interest then good for them, it not for me, I was more interested in the sharing part and both have fun part.

I perfectly know what the three gerne are

Netorare is where third party try steal the girl away from the MC

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has sex with others, which the protagonist enjoys, actively encourages or even causes.

And Netori is when the MC does the stealing do of women, often harem games.

For me netorase part i like is the sharing, not the cuckoldry

You do realize NTS IS swinging right? By the very definition of swinging, this is true. So you're literally just saying you want more focus on the MC and the wife, not that you want swinging, because there already is swinging. I've explained this so many times in other threads, yet still I see so many people completely misconstrue what swinging actually is. It would make more sense if you said you want a stag/vixen dynamic instead, because stag and vixen couples tend to do all extramarital sexual activities together.

Also, it's okay if you prefer this dynamic, I also prefer stag/vixen content. However, even before the latest update, I could tell that so far at least, the content swayed more toward cuckold-ish content, even on the "Dom" path.

 

[oklololol]

The dev only has 12 posts on this site. Something tells me he isn't here very much.

Which is for the best when you see the usual tiring nts/ntr/vanilla debate that always happens every months

 

[Xill]

Or we look at the patreon from the dev and look how he described his game and this exactly why i support this game i dont like when Netorase turns to hard NTR so im glad with how he plans to make this game.
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I know that. He's saying this in the OP too, in the developer notes. However, this last update was not at all hard NTR. Look at the last sentence. "There is never any danger of her leaving you or falling for any other guy apart from you."

Going through the story of this game, that much is certain. Amelia does everything for the MC. The MC told her he wants her to get fucked by other men. What does she do in the last update if not getting fucked by another man. Fucking includes the female feeling good too, so yeah she enjoys it, and at the end she looks at the camera because she knows why she really did it.

I feel like in a lot of these NTS scenarios people want, is that the girl to be more or less a toy for the MC who tells her how and when to indulge in his kink. Like sure, it's his kink, but it requires both parties to participate. Same goes if it was a vanilla relationship, it can't be just one person happy and the other doing everything at their whim.

 

[mase88]

I know that. He's saying this in the OP too, in the developer notes. However, this last update was not at all hard NTR. Look at the last sentence. "There is never any danger of her leaving you or falling for any other guy apart from you."

Going through the story of this game, that much is certain. Amelia does everything for the MC. The MC told her he wants her to get fucked by other men. What does she do in the last update if not getting fucked by another man. Fucking includes the female feeling good too, so yeah she enjoys it, and at the end she looks at the camera because she knows why she really did it.

I feel like in a lot of these NTS scenarios people want, is that the girl to be more or less a toy for the MC who tells her how and when to indulge in his kink. Like sure, it's his kink, but it requires both parties to participate. Same goes if it was a vanilla relationship, it can't be just one person happy and the other doing everything at their whim.

Yes i agree to 100 % with all you said that's why i don't understand why some act like we want some major changes when in reality we only wanted the mc to be more confindent and maybe a little bit better communication in the dom route.

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

I know that. He's saying this in the OP too, in the developer notes. However, this last update was not at all hard NTR. Look at the last sentence. "There is never any danger of her leaving you or falling for any other guy apart from you."

Going through the story of this game, that much is certain. Amelia does everything for the MC. The MC told her he wants her to get fucked by other men. What does she do in the last update if not getting fucked by another man. Fucking includes the female feeling good too, so yeah she enjoys it, and at the end she looks at the camera because she knows why she really did it.

I feel like in a lot of these NTS scenarios people want, is that the girl to be more or less a toy for the MC who tells her how and when to indulge in his kink. Like sure, it's his kink, but it requires both parties to participate. Same goes if it was a vanilla relationship, it can't be just one person happy and the other doing everything at their whim.

Playing devil's advocate here... while I didn't think that scene was NTR in the least bit... this idea that just because someone is into the kink, they are ok with their wife/girlfriend or whatever having free reign to bang whoever they want whenever they want, without any input from their husband/boyfriend is preposterous. One common thing I used to see on dating apps for people looking for another man to join them... the husband/boyfriend always had the final say. If he wasn't ok with it, it wasn't going to happen. This seemed particularly true for those who were very new to it.

I get that it's just a game and it's one specifically about the wife fucking other men. But some players like to have a little more control over their playthrough. Up to the dev whether or not he wants to do that or not, but people are going to discuss what they like/dislike about it regardless.

 

[i dond dog]

Or we look at the patreon from the dev and look how he described his game and this exactly why i support this game i dont like when Netorase turns to hard NTR so im glad with how he plans to make this game.
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this screenshot or whatever the fuck that is gave me eye cancer.

 

[kiziero]

Japanese definition of Netorase, taken from the jp wiki article on 寝取られ:

寝取らせ男性自らが自分の恋人や妻を他の男性に抱かせて、精神的な性的快感や嗜虐感を得るというジャンルの作品を指す。

Translation: "Netorase" refers to a genre of works where a man deliberately allows his partner or wife to be intimate with another man, deriving mental sexual pleasure or a sense of masochistic satisfaction from the experience.

The word 嗜虐感 (Shigyakukan) refers to the feeling of deriving pleasure, often psychological or sexual, from acts involving cruelty, humiliation, or the infliction of pain (whether emotional or physical) on oneself or others. It is closely related to the concept of masochism or sadism, depending on the context.

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Vulgar Reverie is doing nothing wrong. It is a true NTS. Tourists need to stop trying to impose swinging/vanilla sharing/stag&vixen, etc onto NTS.

amen brother.Cuckoldry is a part of pure nts.I dont know whats the deal with all these dudes that have a problem with it.NTS means u get turned on by the feeling of losing your precious one and so u want to feel that.Its quite simple actually.If u dont like NTS then just dont play this type of games.
For me last update was the best one so far.It was the first one that gave the feeling of true nts.Hope the dev continue this good game wihout taking into consideration all this bullshit

 

[Firaxius]

Yes i agree to 100 % with all you said that's why i don't understand why some act like we want some major changes when in reality we only wanted the mc to be more confindent and maybe a little bit better communication in the dom route.

That what i don't expect either, only a small change was enough at the conference scene that split in for those who like cuckoldry the scene happen and for those not into the scene don't happen or another scene happen with some guy that only want a one night stand. The fact that in that scene was a co-worker from her job that has a crush on her, is somewhat a recipe for disaster, which could lead her workfloor become an uncomfortable place later on, just to please her husband with sex scenes with other guys. Like slapE said i should more mention i was into the stag/vixen path. But eventualy it the developer his choice, but he should always clarify he will take a certain path.