VN Ren'Py Vulgar Reverie [v0.17.0] [Saxonado Studios]

[Ben's Franking]

The mafia concept in this game is interesting as it has its ups for opening itself to variety of violent fetishes such as blackmail sex, gunpoint/knifepoint sex, and even prostitution due to unreasonable extortion, albeit mc/wife kidnapping. Since we're on the topic of mafia, imagine if there's a buying your wife for a million dollars bad ending lmao.

 

[Busty May]

any working save? its been an year i trying to play this

 

[Hained]

any working save? its been an year i trying to play this

 

[turmio]

Amelia looked amazing in this update, Karman really nailed her look. It really gave the impression of her turning things up a notch from the last time they visited the club. Likewise her teasing and boldness were perfect. And the build-up followed by her activities with the stranger were really well done. Saxxy did say this update was to showcase the couple's progress since their first visit to the club and I would say he did excellent job with it. The update also showed that despite all she has already done, all the teasing and now the freedom to act thanks to the safe word, Leon stays as her priority. She will talk big and poke at him but at the end of the day what she wants is for him to enjoy his fetish.

Speaking of the safe word, I wonder if it will see any proper usage or will it be used just to ease Amelia's concern over Leon. Considering how into he has been to everything and her motivation it's hard to imagine a situation where they would need to use the safe word.

Edit. I really liked Saxxy added at the start of the update that they spent few days just being together instead of jumping straight back into action after the mafia arc.

 

[Angelcrush]

This is PEAK Netorase !
The respect, communication, trust and passion the two MC's have for each other is impeccable. Only this enables me to really let the kinks hit home. It's hot because Ammi is a perfect girlfriend in that regard, playing into her role but at the same time making sure you understand that it IS a play, always asking if you are ok with it.
Personally, I hate NTR but love NTR play.

 

[Fusionzone]

Anyone know how to update this on joiplay without fucking up the saves?

 

[Fusionzone]

This is PEAK Netorase !
The respect, communication, trust and passion the two MC's have for each other is impeccable. Only this enables me to really let the kinks hit home. It's hot because Ammi is a perfect girlfriend in that regard, playing into her role but at the same time making sure you understand that it IS a play, always asking if you are ok with it.
Personally, I hate NTR but love NTR play.

It feels more and more platitudey as the story goes on cuz ur bottlenecked into being ok and not having any choice. Like when Jack breaks consent for the second time it's a hard no for me. Just can't do anything about it cuz everyone is scripted to be fine with it.

 

[Ranieboy]

Oh yeah speaking of the safe word I wonder if it's a reference to "Pineapple Express".

Cause it's quite a specific fruit to be mentioned or maybe just a coincidence.

 

[Angelcrush]

It feels more and more platitudey as the story goes on cuz ur bottlenecked into being ok and not having any choice. Like when Jack breaks consent for the second time it's a hard no for me. Just can't do anything about it cuz everyone is scripted to be fine with it.

Yeah I agree that there could be a few more points, were you to speak for yourself.
I struggle to remember at which point anyone but Geist overstepped bounderies though. I thought Jack was VERY respectful.

Are there routes ? maybe you made other choices than I did ?

 

[Tripfriend]

god i fucking love the NTR NTS arguments people have in these threads every other week

I want Bull pregnancy to witness the meltdown.

 

[nidezrel]

That reminds me, I thought it was amusing this update when she's scanning for a guy at the bar and says she doesn't want arrogant men, given the last 3 guys she fucked, and then the guy she ends up fucking that night.

 

[Busty May]

ty
,but lead to black screen

 

[GooseofGold]

Yeah I agree that there could be a few more points, were you to speak for yourself.
I struggle to remember at which point anyone but Geist overstepped bounderies though. I thought Jack was VERY respectful.

Are there routes ? maybe you made other choices than I did ?

I think he's refering to the times where Ami is in control and then Jack goes "Nah fuck that, I'm fucking you!" However, it's played as a Dom/sub thing. So I don't see how it's breaking consent except in an extremely bad faith interpretation.

 

[Aukenn]

Veering away from tired discussions of definitions, what truly matters is the feelings that can be derived from NTS. On one hand, the NTS that the Western (AI Slop) scene is familiar with is one of self-discovery between a loving couple, and on the other, the Japanese (with games such as Marina’s Cuckolding Report) is one of risk, playing with fire, and indulging in a particularly twisted desire.

VR guarantees that there’ll be no bad endings, so it just kind of swings (not equally in my opinion) between these two interpretations with every other update, sparking displeasure from two different sides of the “same” coin.

At least for me, I’ll at the very least check in with this game to admire Karman’s art. But it’ll always have this two wolves situation because I don’t believe it has concretely established what it wants to be be from the get-go.

 

[GooseofGold]

Veering away from tired discussions of defintions, what truly matters is the feelings that can be derived from NTS. On one hand, the NTS that the Western (AI Slop) scene is familiar with is one of self-discovery between a loving couple, and on the other, the Japanese (with games such as Marina’s Cuckolding Report) is one of risk, playing with fire, and indulging in a particularly twisted desire.

VR guarantees that there’ll be no bad endings, so it just kind of swings (not equally in my opinion) between these two interpretations with every other update, sparking displeasure from two different sides of the “same” coin.

At least for me, I’ll at the very least check in with this game to admire Karman’s art. But it’ll always have this two wolves situation because I don’t believe it has concretely established what it wants to be be from the get-go (or at the very least, it strays back and forth).

To be honest I think that's exactly where they want to be. Fall somewhere in between. Where they do all of the risky stuff, but with the safety net of certain things never happening. I.E. The couple's marriage never being threatened and the avoidance of Bull Pregnancy, which are the author's words not mine. Given that the couple focuses so much on eachother it will fall closer to the western side....but with spice?

 

[Aukenn]

To be honest I think that's exactly where they want to be. Fall somewhere in between. Where they do all of the risky stuff, but with the safety net of certain things never happening. I.E. The couple's marriage never being threatened and the avoidance of Bull Pregnancy, which are the author's words not mine. Give that the couple focuses so much on eachother it will fall closer to the western side....but with spice?

You may be right, it’s just frustrating as a consumer to get the co-worker update, and then many instances of reclaimation, the controversy with the facial expression in the gym, back to the animated scene within the mafia arc, and so on. For the way it's going, the "risky stuff" really loses it's punch for a lot of people (including myself) when you're constantly re-assured and hand-held, even to the point where retroactive changes have been made to neuter the effect.

I truly believe there’s a way to play the middle ground, but now that we’re moving into subscriber-suggested wish fulfilment with the Reveries and all, I’m just really not confident that the NTS will remain intact. If past history tells us anything, I don’t know that Saxx can remain strong on some of the guardrails that’d be need to be respected to not have the game devolve into sharing and other things that cater to a more vanilla expression of "NTS" that we’re already inundated with from AI slop. I hope that explains the frustration you're seeing from some people.

 

[GooseofGold]

You may be right, it’s just frustrating as a consumer to get the co-worker update, and then many instances of reclaimation, the controversy with the facial expression in the gym, back to the animated scene within the mafia arc, and so on.

I truly believe there’s a way to play the middle ground, but now that we’re moving into subscriber-suggested wish fulfilment with the Reveries and all, I’m just really not confident that the NTS will remain intact. If past history tells us anything, I don’t know that Saxx can remain strong on some of the guardrails that’d be need to be respected to not have the game devolve into sharing and other things that cater to a more vanilla expression of "NTS" that we’re already inundated with from AI slop.

To be honest I missed the gym face fiasco. I played the game back then but wasn't in the community. I didn't like Enzo as a person but the scene was hot given the situation, it is funny that he was animated first to me. Personally I don't mind the reclamation....but I also view this as I'm reading a smut novel where we see a lot more of what a couple who play with cucking would look like. Most shit is mundane and they still have sex with each other in their dynamic, so I just turned off the expectation of the endless NTS cascade you'd get from a Japanese title. Some scenarios are likely gonna be with less spice some with more spice, some where Saxxxy accidentally burns his tongue and adds a little milk....which will probably piss people off again. The game has avoided swinging thus far, despite how strongly people wanted Freya to get fucked all Mafia arc. So I'm hopeful it'll deliver.

 

[Neonviolet]

You may be right, it’s just frustrating as a consumer to get the co-worker update, and then many instances of reclaimation, the controversy with the facial expression in the gym, back to the animated scene within the mafia arc, and so on. For the way it's going, the "risky stuff" really loses it's punch for a lot of people (including myself) when you're constantly re-assured and hand-held, even to the point where retroactive changes have been made to neuter the effect.

I truly believe there’s a way to play the middle ground, but now that we’re moving into subscriber-suggested wish fulfilment with the Reveries and all, I’m just really not confident that the NTS will remain intact. If past history tells us anything, I don’t know that Saxx can remain strong on some of the guardrails that’d be need to be respected to not have the game devolve into sharing and other things that cater to a more vanilla expression of "NTS" that we’re already inundated with from AI slop. I hope that explains the frustration you're seeing from some people.

But isn't this boring bs nts you described that i also hate with passion what these western vanilla fans want ?
I didn't feel the risk the emotions on being on the edge nothing it feels like acting roleplay that is boring by now the only time it felt good was the first jack sex scene because it was the first time and the coworker one after that it was downhill mechanical sex that has nothing to it's just sex

 

[Mcbuilder]

Is it worth paying the new update or better skip it?

 

[nidezrel]

Is it worth paying the new update or better skip it?

Do you want a followup to the first bar scene? That's all it comes down to.