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- Aug 5, 2016
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This is the right attitude to have (and I'm NOT being sarcastic at all). If you don't like a certain fetish, you just move on. Different games for different people. There's far too much bitching and moaning going on around here (from others) about how devs are 'ruining' games and other such crap. Good on you, sir, for treating this properly!
Eh, doesn't that remove the entire point of choice and consequence? Which is pretty much the main attraction and gameplay of VN-style games like this? And it's not that hard to begin with! Just read the text and figure it out! (also, yeah, like Irphaeus said: roll-back and saving esentially make it impossible to get locked in a bad choice)
NTR content used as 'bad endings' or consequences is great storytelling, imho. I'm all for that! It makes the choices matter, it makes you as a player think about the MC's actions, and it serves as the difficulty of the game. If there isn't a challenge of some sort, what's the point? For VNs it's all about choosing the right options! Plus, isn't victory (the harem style ending, for example) all the more satisfying if you know you could have fucked up along the way but didn't? Stick to your guns, Irphaeus, and build the game and story you want! There are plenty of people who will love it.
- May 4, 2017
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NTR used as a consequence or bad end means, "play perfect or be cucked." Yeah, fuck that.
It doesn't add 'depth' or 'challenge'... Do you know what it really does?? It makes anyone that isnt into that betafag shit feel like they HAVE to play using a walkthrough, instantly killing half the fun of the game and removing any positive surprises a along with the rage/jealousy inducing one's.
(Didn't intend to come back but got a notification. I have to say that reply to me made me laugh... lol)
It doesn't add 'depth' or 'challenge'... Do you know what it really does?? It makes anyone that isnt into that betafag shit feel like they HAVE to play using a walkthrough, instantly killing half the fun of the game and removing any positive surprises a along with the rage/jealousy inducing one's.
(Didn't intend to come back but got a notification. I have to say that reply to me made me laugh... lol)
- Aug 5, 2016
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Huh, alright. I apparantely misjudged, you're also narrow minded! Whaddya know. NTR used as a consequence or bad end means 'get the girl or someone else will'. Which is how it actually works, mate. You pick the right choice to make the girl(s) 'yours' (whatever that means depending on the game), and then keep them 'yours'. If you fuck up, someone else gets them, obviously. You want to end up with everything going your way without any effort on your part, both as a player and as the MC? Huh. Yeah. I think games in general are not for you, mate. You should just read erotic stories instead. Those aren't so risky!
Yup just like in real life, if you make the wrong choice, chances are you don't get the girl (or guy depending on your orientation) and someone else does.
Just like games with choices that matter, sometimes the thing the person you like wants to hear isn't the thing you think they want to hear. Yes, relationships and people can be complex.
If someone never want to see a bad end, maybe they should go read a book? And probably not date other people.
- May 4, 2017
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You realise these games are created to be a fantasy for the player right? Not make the player feel helpless, rejected and jealous just for picking a wrong option somewhere.
I pledge to a fuckton of these types of games, the good ones anyway that know what most of their players want and REALLY don't want...
So perhaps it's YOU who need to go watch some ero, because games are meant to be player fantasies.
- Feb 12, 2017
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NTR as a bad end, eh? Well, maybe it's bad if all we get is a scene of the girls walking away with someone else. But if I get an H-scene, then it's a good end for me. XD
- Oct 10, 2017
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Guys, please! Don't do an argument over NTR or how one suppose to feel about it; whether someone stay or leave due to it. Please? And just for clarification about this whole NTR thingy...
NTR - General Definition
- Since this comes up so much in discussions. Regardless of someone thinks NTR, this is our definition.
Japanese acronym for
If a game has this in it and it is not properly tagged as such or listed in its Genre section of the OP. Please don't be that guy and be the asshole to start a debate or argument on it. Report the thread and state that it needs the NTR tag.
Now if you don't like this fetish or other certain fetishes in general, don't post. Don't start those conversations or bait someone. Be the adult and avoid the game.
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NTR - General Definition
- Since this comes up so much in discussions. Regardless of someone thinks NTR, this is our definition.
Japanese acronym for
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, used to define a genre of Eroge (Hentai Game), meaning "
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". In short, the main protagonist's loved one(s) are taken or seduced away from him and the heroine might be willing or unwilling. This is to cause an emotion of deep jealousy on the reader.If a game has this in it and it is not properly tagged as such or listed in its Genre section of the OP. Please don't be that guy and be the asshole to start a debate or argument on it. Report the thread and state that it needs the NTR tag.
Now if you don't like this fetish or other certain fetishes in general, don't post. Don't start those conversations or bait someone. Be the adult and avoid the game.
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That works great if the dev makes his intentions known from the beginning. When they don't people get rightfully pissed off and feel deceived...
I'm done with this thread though, said my piece now.
- Jun 14, 2017
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Those feelings are strong, and if a game can make you feel this, it's already some kind of success.
Your way of thinking is a bit desperating to me.
Btw your fantasies isn't all players fantasies... I worked for month on the game to include as much fantasies and fetish possible within a believeble story and characters.
With all the content my game (will) provide, you guys are still bragging about the 2% of NTR, while you have almost no chance to stomp on it except if you don't read or pick choices blindly.
What you are saying is litteraly to avoid eating one of the most juicy orange because you may find some pip...
Seriously, move on with that.(All of you)
- Oct 10, 2017
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I can't talk in the name of anyone else beside mine but what i can do tell is that it sure feels reassuring to hear that. To me it felt like this was never clearly stated. I'd think that this is a welcomed clarification for anyone who isn't into the cuckolding stuff, me included. Its better this way youknow. That you address such a matter.
You shouldn't feel depressed though. Heed your own words. Strong emotions are a success in a way. I totally understand @Shardoom as i wouldn't want to see my mc getting cucked but i can handle a 2%, clearly avoidable, chance
I just hope we all can get over arguing and return to discussion, debate and random pointless lunacy on my part i'm afraid
- Jun 14, 2017
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The game don't have any NTR scene yet, so the tag won't be added.
If game gives player constant gratification, no matter how shitty he plays it's a shitty game. It maybe a good porn, but shit game nonetheless. If I couldn't lose in poker, I wouldn't play it. What would be the point without sense of accomplishment?
If I couldn't lose in poker I'd be in every poker tournament that I could and become rich and that would be my accomplishment.
- Feb 2, 2018
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TLDR powerless people wallowing in self pity don't want to be reminded what garbage they are.
If I may be so bold to throw my 2c in the hat as I explained to geeseki when people bitched about the freeuse world comic shop orgy, a lot of people consuming this filth (stop bitching, sit down, it is filth in the most general definition) are losers or otherwise outcast and if a character feels distress, they're reminded of their own shortcomings and, to quote a certain meme, wizardry and feel like someone pushed their face into a pile of fresh dip shit.
Now there are obviously people that are troubled by far less as seen in the superpowered comments regarding the sexbot control and corrupted phone pictures, but that's the way it is. People feel entitled to characters "they invested work in" and some of the users are just that fragile at heart. Striking a balance between one and the other should be encouraged - I'd be in favor of allowing users to be warned off cucking content if they so wish. Not an always on option, but a simple meta question at the beginning or a preference toggle. Just a single conditional string addition for choices; i.e. (I have not much py experience, therefore mostly incorrect pseudocode):
[ "selection answer " ++ if preference.warn-ntr = true then "(NTR)" else ""]
I loathe ntr, but I don't give a shit when I'm not forced to live through the pain a character feels.
For perspective, I love mind control stories but only from the controler's perspective (and then mostly just gently prodding feelings into a certain track instead of sledgehammer break-and-command). I frequently end up at a masterPC story where the narrator sees signs that he, his sister and his mother fell victim to the school's coach, but it's only through meta conjecture that you'd realize it and I refuse to read beyond the point where he explains the empty faced look of his sister during cheer training 4 lines in.
If I may be so bold to throw my 2c in the hat as I explained to geeseki when people bitched about the freeuse world comic shop orgy, a lot of people consuming this filth (stop bitching, sit down, it is filth in the most general definition) are losers or otherwise outcast and if a character feels distress, they're reminded of their own shortcomings and, to quote a certain meme, wizardry and feel like someone pushed their face into a pile of fresh dip shit.
Now there are obviously people that are troubled by far less as seen in the superpowered comments regarding the sexbot control and corrupted phone pictures, but that's the way it is. People feel entitled to characters "they invested work in" and some of the users are just that fragile at heart. Striking a balance between one and the other should be encouraged - I'd be in favor of allowing users to be warned off cucking content if they so wish. Not an always on option, but a simple meta question at the beginning or a preference toggle. Just a single conditional string addition for choices; i.e. (I have not much py experience, therefore mostly incorrect pseudocode):
[ "selection answer " ++ if preference.warn-ntr = true then "(NTR)" else ""]
I loathe ntr, but I don't give a shit when I'm not forced to live through the pain a character feels.
For perspective, I love mind control stories but only from the controler's perspective (and then mostly just gently prodding feelings into a certain track instead of sledgehammer break-and-command). I frequently end up at a masterPC story where the narrator sees signs that he, his sister and his mother fell victim to the school's coach, but it's only through meta conjecture that you'd realize it and I refuse to read beyond the point where he explains the empty faced look of his sister during cheer training 4 lines in.
- Jun 4, 2017
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I kinda love the game a lot of brutality but very big story with hell of a lot of options, but question is can he do all this on his own promising start but manyPatreon games stayed unfinished i guess time will tell.
- Jul 1, 2017
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