DarkBahamuth

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You think that´s bad? Try it on inferno difficulity. He kills you in 2 - 3 hits.

Took me like over 3 hours to beat him and then i pretty much quit lol.

Ultimatum you can either parry - or just straight up move away from it, its not difficult to dodge.
I quote this. Inferno Is the only difficulty where bosses are actually hard but then again, if you inherit the right skills and you can actually parry perfectly It's not so bad, and yes, Weiss special move leaves his back Wide open for a back Attack punishment making the fight very Easy+he Is a single target and like any single target, mess him with guns...the assault rifle and the sniper rifle are so OP on him.
 

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Except that's not even a softlock, any boss can be beaten even underleveled and Weiss Is a not an exception but even if It was the case, it's not the boss fault for being hard if fought underleveled, not to mention you can beat him super easily with guns, which at this point of the game, he should have more then a single gun. Guns in this game are freaking OP on single targets and Weiss Is alone.
It is a soft lock depending on the skill of the player. Any save that is locked to beating a boss with underleveled/ lack of healing item with a less skilled player is essentially softlocked on that save. If he did not have any other save (as he told the forum) to go to a previous save state then he is softlocked. It's not IMPOSSIBLE to beat it at that point but it will be Extremely hard. Not everyone is a god gamer that parries moves with releative ease (specially porn gamers). Comparing the relative skill of the average player (who plays on normal) to someone who plays inferno as the first option (challenge seekers) is essentially comparing night and day. You can keep telling the guy that he can beat it with this and that but if his skills are actually lacking then he will not beat it with an underleveled/ lack of healing items. Not everyone has the fortitude to keep retrying the boss in an underleveled/ lack of healing items state specially on normal. Depending on where he left his save he might not be able to upgrade his guns anymore.
 

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It is a soft lock depending on the skill of the player. Any save that is locked to beating a boss with underleveled/ lack of healing item with a less skilled player is essentially softlocked on that save. If he did not have any other save (as he told the forum) to go to a previous save state then he is softlocked. It's not IMPOSSIBLE to beat it at that point but it will be Extremely hard. Not everyone is a god gamer that parries moves with releative ease (specially porn gamers). Comparing the relative skill of the average player (who plays on normal) to someone who plays inferno as the first option (challenge seekers) is essentially comparing night and day. You can keep telling the guy that he can beat it with this and that but if his skills are actually lacking then he will not beat it with an underleveled/ lack of healing items. Not everyone has the fortitude to keep retrying the boss in an underleveled/ lack of healing items state specially on normal. Depending on where he left his save he might not be able to upgrade his guns anymore.
The fact you mention player ability already cease It being a softlock btw. You don't even Need to be good at using parry in that fight, and no, i disagree totally about telling him what to use to exploit the fight basically even being underleveled not helping him to beat It. Softlock means that you saved and for a reason or another a fight Is impossible to beat and by impossible i'm speaking about actually impossible. Spoiler, that fight Is possible to beat even at low level, lacking healing items and it's cheeseable with guns you have naturally at that point of the story.
 
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The fact you mention player ability already cease It being a softlock btw. You don't even Need to be good at using parry in that fight, and no, i disagree totally about telling him what to use to exploit the fight basically even being underleveled not helping him to beat It. Softlock means that you saved and for a reason or another a fight Is impossible to beat and by impossible i'm speaking about actually impossible. Spoiler, that fight Is possible to beat even at low level.
Yeah let's agree to disagree. The fact that you keep insisting that the average skill level in the bosses difficulty is the people playing on inferno is absolute disingenious when it comes to arguing about the actual difficulty of the boss. Yeah no shit the boss can be beaten on lvl 1, no hit with perrfect parry. I told you in my post it is not IMPOSSIBLE but extremely hard for the casual player to the point that they'd rather give up on the game rather than try hard to win in an extremely unfavorable situation. It can basically be distilled to Skill issue yes, but the average player is not gonna try hard specially when it comes to porn games. I also completed this game albeit not on the hardest difficulty so I know what the average possible difficulty of the boss to a more casual player compared to you calling Weiss EASY when there are numerous people here having difficulty with fighting him.
 

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Yeah let's agree to disagree. The fact that you keep insisting that the average skill level in the bosses difficulty is the people playing on inferno is absolute disingenious when it comes to arguing about the actual difficulty of the boss. Yeah no shit the boss can be beaten on lvl 1, no hit with perrfect parry. I told you in my post it is not IMPOSSIBLE but extremely hard for the casual player to the point that they'd rather give up on the game rather than try hard to win in an extremely unfavorable situation. It can basically be distilled to Skill issue yes, but the average player is not gonna try hard specially when it comes to porn games. I also completed this game albeit not on the hardest difficulty so I know what the average possible difficulty of the boss to a more casual player compared to you calling Weiss EASY when there are numerous people here having difficulty with fighting him.
The guy having issues with Weiss saying it's a softlock never mentioned playing It at inferno difficulty and my reply to inferno difficulty Weiss was directed at someone else and i specified also that It isn't so bad "IF INHERITED WITH THE RIGHT SKILLS". You are the One being disingenuous here also because you are refusing to see why that boss Is a pushover at normal/gamer difficulty and far far away from being Extremely hard. Ill make a video by Tomorrow showing you why It Is easy with guns and It doesn't require any particular player ability, and yes, i also played and finished this game more then once but the very First time i played It the only hard boss was the last boss, because anything else was Just Easy stuff that guns play can cheese terribly.
 
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The guy having issues with Weiss saying it's a softlock never mentioned playing It at inferno difficulty and my reply to inferno difficulty Weiss was directed at someone else and i specified also that It isn't so bad "IF INHERITED WITH THE RIGHT SKILLS". You are the One being disingenuous here also because you are refusing to see why that boss Is a pushover at normal/gamer difficulty and far far away from being Extremely hard. Ill make a video by Tomorrow showing you why It Is easy with guns and It doesn't require any particular player ability, and yes, i also played and finished this game more then once but the very First time i played It the only hard boss was the last boss, because anything else was Just Easy stuff that guns play can cheese terribly.
Says the guy who replied to me first about his version of definition of softlock being the only right one. I keep TELLING YOU that NOT ALL PLAYERS have equal SKILLS. You keep insisting that the boss is easy. THE world does not revolve around you as a standard. You are a greater player compared to regular people. You can make a video why it is EASY all you can, it will not improve the skill level of the average porn game player. You keep telling that the boss is a pushover/easy, you are right FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE. You refuse to see that there are other people struggling against that boss.

Let's set the FACTS straight. I'm telling you that your PLAYER SKILL IS not AVERAGE. You are among the rare players who puts effort/ is actually great at the game. What a person may struggle may seem like a breeze to you yet you refuse to look at another person's perspective. Your view of the game is TILTED towards the high end degree. OF COURSE everything is easy on your eyes since you complete the game on the highest difficulty.

You are like one of those people in souls games telling people that the boss is easy, it can be cleared by lvl 1 souls run.

I'm telling you that not all people can clear the same difficulty that you find easy specially with significant debuffs (underleveled, lack of healing items). IT IS NOT IMPOSSIBLE as you said but EXTREMELY HARD for those people. Or are you just arguing just to argue? Is the only definition of softlock that is correct is if you approve of it?
 

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Says the guy who replied to me first about his version of definition of softlock being the only right one. I keep TELLING YOU that NOT ALL PLAYERS have equal SKILLS. You keep insisting that the boss is easy. THE world does not revolve around you as a standard. You are a greater player compared to regular people. You can make a video why it is EASY all you can, it will not improve the skill level of the average porn game player. You keep telling that the boss is a pushover/easy, you are right FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE. You refuse to see that there are other people struggling against that boss.

Let's set the FACTS straight. I'm telling you that your PLAYER SKILL IS not AVERAGE. You are among the rare players who puts effort/ is actually great at the game. What a person may struggle may seem like a breeze to you yet you refuse to look at another person's perspective. Your view of the game is TILTED towards the high end degree. OF COURSE everything is easy on your eyes since you complete the game on the highest difficulty.

You are like one of those people in souls games telling people that the boss is easy, it can be cleared by lvl 1 souls run.

I'm telling you that not all people can clear the same difficulty that you find easy specially with significant debuffs (underleveled, lack of healing items). IT IS NOT IMPOSSIBLE as you said but EXTREMELY HARD for those people. Or are you just arguing just to argue? Is the only definition of softlock that is correct is if you approve of it?
Do you even know what a softlock means? That's my only answer for you. And i assure you, It has nothing to do with player ability.
 
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i mean if you struggle with game and don't wanna spend time leveling or getting equipment, lower the difficulty, no? player skill is not average that's why you have difficulty levels, you have time to write a book how unfair this game but can't figure out a simple idea. and no, you can't possibly be softlocked by hard boss in a game that not only has difficulty levels but also saves
 

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i mean if you struggle with game and don't wanna spend time leveling or getting equipment, lower the difficulty, no? player skill is not average that's why you have difficulty levels, you have time to write a book how unfair this game but can't figure out a simple idea. and no, you can't possibly be softlocked by hard boss in a game that not only has difficulty levels but also saves
He probably want achievements that playing in lower difficulty you don't get if im not wrong but even then...he playing at normal(gamer)difficulty and the boss in question Is a pushover to guns play, as in, you dont even have to engage him in short range. It's Just that peoples try to brute force on everything with melee weapons apparently. Weiss Is abusable with guns, unleash all your guns clips on him> use the super move if his armor break gauge Is near to be broken After or mid guns usage> spamm melee skills rotating them to increase their damages while he Is stunned by armor break> empty the rest of your bullets on him if you didn't already or refill them with the ammo box item and Just give him another taste of bullets hell> weiss dead in about 20 seconds.
 

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I feel like I've hit a soft lock. I'm at the point where Weiss takes a hostage, and I cannot beat the fight against him. He has an insane amount of health that my attacks do very little to reduce, while a single one of his attacks takes away about a third of my health. He's also got this "blue attack," which I assume is meant to be his Ultimate, but why the hell is he allowed to just spam it? When I use my Ultimate, I have to wait for the gauge to refill before I can use it again. I don't have enough money to buy a lot of healing items, and the game won't let me leave East Street to go grind. I would lower the difficulty, but the game says that certain achievements can't be unlocked on Light, so I don't really want to do that. It seems like my only chance at beating the fight is to just keep countering and hope I don't fuck up the timing too many times.

Edit: Did they even playtest this fight at all? Did they just expect you to grind up an extra 50 levels or something? If that was the case, they maybe should have given a warning or something, instead of just throwing you into it and then not letting you leave. This may actually be the worst boss fight I have even seen in any video game. I was really enjoying this game, but this one fight is going to make me drop it and never play again.
Weiss Boss Battle. It took me sometime cause i had to restart the game completely from the beginning and i can't really play much those days but i still spent sometime getting there in my spare time. I kinda did a fast run to get there so i'm not even so much leveled up. I did played 8 softair minigame matches to improve guns a bit.

As i said...this boss suffer a lot gunsplay. Now...if you didn't ever used guns and you never played softair to upgrade them, it is still cheeseable since at that point of the game you should have 6 ammo boxes that you can bind to your shortcut item to refill all your guns ammos meaning you can keep cheesing Weiss after you finish ammos just by using the shortcut item.

Use your tools because the game gives you some nasty tools(in this case the ammo box item refilling all your guns). I did it first attempt and i was kinda rusty so i got hit a few times there too and since binding ammo boxes to shortcut items means you can't heal(yeah, it is a risky method but as they say, no risk, no gain), so you need to be a bit careful but as you can see the efficiency is that during the openings, you can unleash bullet hell on Weiss making him a pushover that last less then a minute.

In case you never upgraded guns, it would probably takes about 2 minutes to kill him with a proper gunsplay. Assault Rifle and Hunting Rifle are your best friends in that fight.

 

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I sense a big skill issue here tbh. Weiss Is an Easy as fuck boss Battle. Sounds to me like someone rushed Without getting powerups or leveling enough and bumped into a Wall like "Hey i am level 10 and the level 30 boss Is unplayable and badly programmed because he kicking my ass", just to make an example. And even like this anyway... Use your guns(you should have more then a single gun by that point and they do lots of damages)...time your counters or Just Dodge. Holy hell from how you are complaining about him It feels like you are tremendously underleveled while trying to brute force on him...jeez!
How about we don't make assumptions about people. I didn't rush shit. I was around level 30 and had the strongest equipment and enchantments that I could have at that point in the game, except for the guns, which I admittedly never focused on. The times I've used them in the past, whether in combat or in the required air soft fights, they've felt very underwhelming. Any enemy I've fought previously has died to my sword way faster than to my gun, and the sword doesn't have ammo. I did try using guns against Weiss, but the low damage wasn't even the reason I stopped. Any time I tried shooting him, he'd just attack me while I'm shooting, and that's not a good HP trade.
 

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How about we don't make assumptions about people. I didn't rush shit. I was around level 30 and had the strongest equipment and enchantments that I could have at that point in the game, except for the guns, which I admittedly never focused on. The times I've used them in the past, whether in combat or in the required air soft fights, they've felt very underwhelming. Any enemy I've fought previously has died to my sword way faster than to my gun, and the sword doesn't have ammo. I did try using guns against Weiss, but the low damage wasn't even the reason I stopped. Any time I tried shooting him, he'd just attack me while I'm shooting, and that's not a good HP trade.
Well you Need to trick him and shoot while he has Is back exposed or when he Is at distance. Again, if you want to quit the game it's your problem, not a game not being tested or having flaws problem, because i can assure you...There's no flaws in that fight. Game has the fight style of any game from the "Tales of" series and like in those games There's Always some bosses that deal High damages compared to others but that anyway can be abused in a way or another. Level 30 for Weiss Is a bit low. The First time i reached him i was level 40 iirc. This time around in the video i linked i was 35 even rushing quite a bit ahead and almost completely skipping any fight in the sewers aside enemies blocking the way in thin tiles corridors. It took me 6 hours of gameplay time to reach the fight skipping every single dialogue but again, if you want to quit the game it's your own issue.
 
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i am softlocked?i cant progress the guy isnt anywhere this is right after the air soft battle
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he isnt there at night too
Weird. I am replaying through this game twice those days and he Always was there at night time. Did you meet the Daily quota of 2 requests? Trying to speculate why would It even happen since It never happened to me. Another question would be, you playing with old dlsite AI TL version or the steam version published by Otaku-plan?
 
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Weird. I am replaying through this game twice those days and he Always was there at night time. Did you meet the Daily quota of 2 requests? Trying to speculate why would It even happen since It never happened to me. Another question would be, you playing with old dlsite AI TL version or the steam version published by Otaku-plan?

i have the 2 quota
im playing the the current link at the first page
 
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