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this is not a good argument because interracial isn't only black & white, it can be asian x white, white x latina,asian x latina or even fantasy type of race like orcs ect

This is just semantics at this point.
Let's not pretend we don't know which two pairings are the most popular by a country mile with everything else being exceedingly rare to the point of being irrelevant. I mean, seriously, how many games there are that even acknowledge latinos as a separate race?

As for the tag potentially being used for fantasy races, I've not seen it basically ever. I'm sure it exists here and there but once again we can consult the search and after skimming the first few pages it's basically 95% standard non-fantasy interracial. Whenever it's also an NTR game take a guess which pairing is meant by the tag.

he is talking about women game dev that do bbc games and i agree with him on that the most well known "bbc" games are made by women on this site(not saying it's a bad thing btw this is just how it is)

I'm not aware of a single one apart from maybe Eva Kiss and her games where it really isn't that big a part of the game to just declare it a BBC game.
Even so, if this is somehow true (and they're somehow not autogynephilic men who enjoy having a female identity on the internet), including a popular fetish in your game is just a good business decision which simply proves my initial point that the fetish IS popular and absolutely isn't "usually hated".

 

[jokehiv]

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[wommerrx]

bbc is optional??

 

[Kekekerkek]

This is just semantics at this point.
Let's not pretend we don't know which two pairings are the most popular by a country mile with everything else being exceedingly rare to the point of being irrelevant. I mean, seriously, how many games there are that even acknowledge latinos as a separate race?

As for the tag potentially being used for fantasy races, I've not seen it basically ever. I'm sure it exists here and there but once again we can consult the search and after skimming the first few pages it's basically 95% standard non-fantasy interracial. Whenever it's also an NTR game take a guess which pairing is meant by the tag.


I'm not aware of a single one apart from maybe Eva Kiss and her games where it really isn't that big a part of the game to just declare it a BBC game.
Even so, if this is somehow true (and they're somehow not autogynephilic men who enjoy having a female identity on the internet), including a popular fetish in your game is just a good business decision which simply proves my initial point that the fetish IS popular and absolutely isn't "usually hated".

to be fair this(cuckold/cheating bbc) fetish IS hated by most people outside lol but yeah who cares anyway

 

[MadfireMonkey]

This is just semantics at this point.
Let's not pretend we don't know which two pairings are the most popular by a country mile with everything else being exceedingly rare to the point of being irrelevant. I mean, seriously, how many games there are that even acknowledge latinos as a separate race?

As for the tag potentially being used for fantasy races, I've not seen it basically ever. I'm sure it exists here and there but once again we can consult the search and after skimming the first few pages it's basically 95% standard non-fantasy interracial. Whenever it's also an NTR game take a guess which pairing is meant by the tag.


I'm not aware of a single one apart from maybe Eva Kiss and her games where it really isn't that big a part of the game to just declare it a BBC game.
Even so, if this is somehow true (and they're somehow not autogynephilic men who enjoy having a female identity on the internet), including a popular fetish in your game is just a good business decision which simply proves my initial point that the fetish IS popular and absolutely isn't "usually hated".

Considering all of the complaining in every game thread about another bbc character and why it always has to be a black guy I'd say common doesn't mean popular.

 

[fabulous007]

Considering the state of the thread, the normal people that read it would think there aren't any choice in that game. Just to be clear: you have choices for all the (semi) ntr stuff so far (as far as I tested).
Yeah I don't know why people are even talking about that then.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

This is just semantics at this point.
Let's not pretend we don't know which two pairings are the most popular by a country mile with everything else being exceedingly rare to the point of being irrelevant. I mean, seriously, how many games there are that even acknowledge latinos as a separate race?

As for the tag potentially being used for fantasy races, I've not seen it basically ever. I'm sure it exists here and there but once again we can consult the search and after skimming the first few pages it's basically 95% standard non-fantasy interracial. Whenever it's also an NTR game take a guess which pairing is meant by the tag.


I'm not aware of a single one apart from maybe Eva Kiss and her games where it really isn't that big a part of the game to just declare it a BBC game.
Even so, if this is somehow true (and they're somehow not autogynephilic men who enjoy having a female identity on the internet), including a popular fetish in your game is just a good business decision which simply proves my initial point that the fetish IS popular and absolutely isn't "usually hated".

Could be. Or could not be, hard to say - since you'd have to agree it tends to be very divisive - there aren't many with lukewarm feelings one way or another, they either love it or hate it. In my experience those fans definitely tend to be the loudest, so it's hard to tell if they represent a majority or an outspoke minoirity.

I do very much agree with your earlier comment - it's is an overwhelmingly male fetish. Heck the entire realm of "bully cuckold" type stuff tends to be for male audiences, you just dont see as much contentiousness in female-targeted erotica. Not to say there aren't women who enjoy, but definitely outliers. So much so I'd be very unsurprised if EK was part of the group you described in parens.

As for this game and how it relates, it's been good on affording the player choices so it has that going for it. On the other hand, the aforementioned fetish's footprint is annoyingly large here regardless of choice - it requires the player to go along with worldbuilding clearly done by a raceplay lover.

 

[wommerrx]

Could be. Or could not be, hard to say - since you'd have to agree it tends to be very divisive - there aren't many with lukewarm feelings one way or another, they either love it or hate it. In my experience those fans definitely tend to be the loudest, so it's hard to tell if they represent a majority or an outspoke minoirity.

I do very much agree with your earlier comment - it's is an overwhelmingly male fetish. Heck the entire realm of "bully cuckold" type stuff tends to be for male audiences, you just dont see as much contentiousness in female-targeted erotica. Not to say there aren't women who enjoy, but definitely outliers. So much so I'd be very unsurprised if EK was part of the group you described in parens.

As for this game and how it relates, it's been good on affording the player choices so it has that going for it. On the other hand, the aforementioned fetish's footprint is annoyingly large here regardless of choice - it requires the player to go along with worldbuilding clearly done by a raceplay lover.

So it's another game where the central plot revolves around BBC? Where the woman becomes enchanted by the black guy out of nowhere, even in the NTs route? Because if that's the case I won't even waste my time playing.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

So it's another game where the central plot revolves around BBC? Where the woman becomes enchanted by the black guy out of nowhere, even in the NTs route? Because if that's the case I won't even waste my time playing.

I wouldnt say automatically enchanted - like I said there are definitely choices, so that's good.

We'll just have to see how it all plays out in future updates. Though several of the events do feel like a setup crafted by someone with that fetish.

 

[Rozenn]

BBC this, BBC that, the vanilla enjoyers pissing off others who like NTR here and there as always...

You can criticize the story's narrative; something written by someone inexperienced or ignorant of the subject isn't the same as something written by someone who knows how to write. What you can't criticize is the theme (BBC and NTR). If you don't like it, this game obviously isn't for you. If you want something you like, find another game in the vast catalog on the forum. Also, for those who complain about this point without being a paying member, you're shameless. The developer's ideas come before the ideas of the masses, and whether or not they want to steer the course of their game with the community is their decision.

Don't criticize the game based on taste, do it based on objectivity or technical issues.

I hate NTR Phone games, but I realized I'm not part of the audience, so I just had to put up with it.

As for "races", calm down. A stereotype in a porn game can't hurt you knowing that it is, and those who let themselves be guided by them simply have brain failures and deserve to be ostracized. Ayy lmao

 

[Gugatron]

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[wommerrx]

I wouldnt say automatically enchanted - like I said there are definitely choices, so that's good.

We'll just have to see how it all plays out in future updates. Though several of the events do feel like a setup crafted by someone with that fetish.

Ok then let's hope it doesn't become another generic BBC game, as there are already hundreds on this site, I was putting hope in this game, let's see

 

[Enlight432]

This game has done a great job in terms of choices
I don't mean its other aspects are not good
but it has worked wonders in the choices section

Everything is in the hands of the MC and FMC
Everything is in the player's hands
Unlike 99% of games, it doesn't impose everything on the player

The choices are so well designed that whether you are a vanilla/alpha fan, or NTS fan, or cuck/beta fan, or an NTR fan, you will still enjoy this game a lot
Great Game

 

[Clover23]

This game has done a great job in terms of choices
I don't mean its other aspects are not good
but it has worked wonders in the choices section

Everything is in the hands of the MC and FMC
Everything is in the player's hands
Unlike 99% of games, it doesn't impose everything on the player

The choices are so well designed that whether you are a vanilla/alpha fan, or NTS fan, or cuck/beta fan, or an NTR fan, you will still enjoy this game a lot
Great Game

Fr, the Dev is making a great job, maybe a little slow, but the dev is making a good development and writing for the characters, storytelling and the choices

 

[hugplx]

Great game - my only frustration is that I don't know what content I'm missing. For me there's such a thing as too much choice. I think most of this is solved by a gallery that tells you how to unlock the locked scenes (what kinds of choices etc)

 

[Arch12]

Great game - my only frustration is that I don't know what content I'm missing. For me there's such a thing as too much choice. I think most of this is solved by a gallery that tells you how to unlock the locked scenes (what kinds of choices etc)

Someone up a few posts left a walkthrough, I don't know how in-depth it goes but you could check that. Or just make saves at choices. I typically go down to like page 8 or 9 and do choice selection saves there and then keep main saves on page 1. It can be a bit tedious and not everyone wats to do it but in games with choices I like to do them all.

I lean towards the NTR stuff, For me it typically has better sex scenes then just vanilla stuff, But like for this game I have a Vanilla save(MC and FMC together), A Dick save(MC fucks everyone he can), A potential cuck/NTS save if that is added and the NTR save. I just did like I said above and saved at choices and figured out what led where and then did my route saves.

 

[Laura2022]

This game is really awesome. Sometimes the AI art doesn't match the previous theme, such as the tan lines not transferring, but generally really well put together, and really pretty to look at. There does seem to be a modicum of BBC haters, but as G-Man once said "I have learned to ignore such naysayers when... quelling them... was out of the question." Remember, good girls worship superior BBC, and you want to be a good girl, don't you?

 

[Rionausername]

looks ok, but i can't connect to these characters

 

[Swagylord1337]

The dev just needs to ignore this idiot people talking shet about BBC and focus on the game, it's going well and it's quite enjoyable, wish there was more content

 

[skyrfen]

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