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Found this in another thread (showing what a NTR fan's perspective may be):


To me it shows how limited people's perspective can be when they fall into dichotomy like that. Discussions on this thread have helped me distil what I look for and it never falls into black or white categories. The way you put it, "game that THEY are playing, not where one or the other is being controlled by the other, or by other characters" (while still presented as a dichotomy) deserves its own category, imho. What should we call it? It's not netorase (typically, netorase purists say netorase is about a dominant male MC who pushes his female companion to have sex with others). It can include swinging, but it's broader than that. It implies parity within the couple - cuckold fetish is sufficiently its own thing to be called, well, cuckoldry. Sharing is good, but vague.
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Found this in another thread (showing what a NTR fan's perspective may be):


To me it shows how limited people's perspective can be when they fall into dichotomy like that. Discussions on this thread have helped me distil what I look for and it never falls into black or white categories. The way you put it, "game that THEY are playing, not where one or the other is being controlled by the other, or by other characters" (while still presented as a dichotomy) deserves its own category, imho. What should we call it? It's not netorase (typically, netorase purists say netorase is about a dominant male MC who pushes his female companion to have sex with others). It can include swinging, but it's broader than that. It implies parity within the couple - cuckold fetish is sufficiently its own thing to be called, well, cuckoldry. Sharing is good, but vague.
I get that my point of view is different from obvious industry "standards" or definitions.

I would describe it best as being considerate of both partner's views, not just the male or female's. And wanting to see both views as equal. No dichotomy. That dichotomy sucks, and just shows a real lack of imagination, for mine.

This is the primary problem I have with these definitions, in that they all only seem to consider the influences being placed or played from the male's perspective, in that "he" influenced "her", or "he" stole "her", "he" enjoys others with "her", or "he" is oblivious of "her".
To me, ALL of the NTR definitions are just male definitions, from the male's pov. And all female-perspective ntr definitions are just "she's a slut" or "she is becoming a slut" basically, but it is still considered as if it is a male viewing and deciding what/who she is. "she" is just a vessel, not an actual character, with a life-view and opinions that are valued. And all "she"'s are always just wannabe sluts really, just waiting to be "awakened". Its a really cynical view, with no basis irl.

I suspect it is a main reason why some can't come to terms with FMC-only games, unless she is just a slut in the end, not anyone's partner, and there is no husband involvement in any of it. (all the No-NTR fans)

The woman is just a side-character really, as far as her being part of the thought processes shown in the game, as she is always portrayed as being part of a male fantasy somehow.
(Not to say that there aren't some great FMC corruption stories out there, but they are few and far between, and usually not a concern for any form of NTR/NTS fans, as in no-one cares about that aspect in those games, because any males are not actual MC's.)

I would actually say that this IS proper sharing that I am describing, and that that is what sharing actually means, because all the "male definitions" don't include "her" viewpoint, whereas sharing does/should. In that, it is not just "him" sharing "her", but an actual shared experience, for both.
 
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I get that my point of view is different from obvious industry "standards" or definitions.

I would describe it best as being considerate of both partner's views, not just the male or female's. And wanting to see both views as equal. No dichotomy. That dichotomy sucks, and just shows a real lack of imagination, for mine.

This is the primary problem I have with these definitions, in that they all only seem to consider the influences being placed or played from the male's perspective, in that "he" influenced "her", or "he" stole "her", "he" enjoys others with "her", or "he" is oblivious of "her".
To me, ALL of the NTR definitions are just male definitions, from the male's pov. And all female-perspective ntr definitions are just "she's a slut" or "she is becoming a slut" basically, but it is still considered as if it is a male viewing and deciding what/who she is. "she" is just a vessel, not an actual character, with a life-view and opinions that are valued. And all "she"'s are always just wannabe sluts really, just waiting to be "awakened". Its a really cynical view, with no basis irl.

I suspect it is a main reason why some can't come to terms with FMC-only games, unless she is just a slut in the end, not anyone's partner, and there is no husband involvement in any of it. (all the No-NTR fans)

The woman is just a side-character really, as far as her being part of the thought processes shown in the game, as she is always portrayed as being part of a male fantasy somehow.
(Not to say that there aren't some great FMC corruption stories out there, but they are few and far between, and usually not a concern for any form of NTR/NTS fans, as in no-one cares about that aspect in those games, because any males are not actual MC's.)

I would actually say that this IS proper sharing that I am describing, and that that is what sharing actually means, because all the "male definitions" don't include "her" viewpoint, whereas sharing does/should. In that, it is not just "him" sharing "her", but an actual shared experience, for both.
the corollary to this is almost all "female pov" scenes being a tool to further sluttery. "See what she's up to during her day instead of MC's pov" is basically another way of saying "watch her be slutty on her own". There's never a scene where stuff happens during her day for HER, outside the bounds of sluttery or "corruption" - like what was troubling her, what excited her, POSITIVE secrets she kept from the male partner, etcetc. I think this is what you were saying anyway but I wasnt sure.
 
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the corollary to this is almost all "female pov" scenes being a tool to further sluttery. "See what she's up to during her day instead of MC's pov" is basically another way of saying "watch her be slutty on her own". There's never a scene where stuff happens during her day for HER, outside the bounds of sluttery or "corruption" - like what was troubling her, what excited her, POSITIVE secrets she kept from the male partner, etcetc. I think this is what you were saying anyway but I wasnt sure.
I think in short that and similar issues can be summarized as the woman being the object of sharing not the subject of sharing.
It's kind of the same thing with artwork. I really like mmf (and fmm+) stuff, but most such rule34 imagery depicts woman just having stuff done to her, being the object, going through it. Instead of actively enjoying the experience.
 

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I think in short that and similar issues can be summarized as the woman being the object of sharing not the subject of sharing.
It's kind of the same thing with artwork. I really like mmf (and fmm+) stuff, but most such rule34 imagery depicts woman just having stuff done to her, being the object, going through it. Instead of actively enjoying the experience.
I can practically count on one hand the number of avns that have a woman getting eaten out and her screaming in pleasure :rolleyes:
 

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Can't have the masculinity being threatened by going down on a woman and having her potentially grabbing man's hair to take initiative and guide him towards what she wants.
yeah i totally feel 'insecure' when a girl is clawing my head and crushing me with her thighs - totally feel undesired, unwanted :whistle:
Really? I d love to know which AVNs you’re talking about
oh lol figure of speech... it would take me a minute to think about the last time I saw that in a game....... in last Pinkbox update, i think if you want the devon gf route he eats her before sex..... ummm.... I wanna say there was something in Rebllion Rise O damned?
 

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yeah i totally feel 'insecure' when a girl is clawing my head and crushing me with her thighs - totally feel undesired, unwanted :whistle:
While everything on the internet can be fake and rage bait, I did see multiple times people expressing an opinion that going down on a woman is being latent homosexuality. With the logic being that it means you're submissive (with the fucking ancient Rome examples). And for those people being male=being dominant, and being female=being submissive.
 

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While everything on the internet can be fake and rage bait, I did see multiple times people expressing an opinion that going down on a woman is being latent homosexuality. With the logic being that it means you're submissive (with the fucking ancient Rome examples). And for those people being male=being dominant, and being female=being submissive.
Oh those kinds of takes couldnt be more transparent to me - like tell me you're a loser irl without telling me ... it's just "chad larping", a favorite pasttime in avn circles I try and tune out, am usually unsuccessful.
 

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A bit of self promotion here but both the Three Panels and Holiday for Four have women being the subject of considered cunnilingus, as part of sharing situations, resulting in orgasm. The completing part of Holiday for Four has just been released On Patreon and will be freely available in 7-days.
 

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I think in short that and similar issues can be summarized as the woman being the object of sharing not the subject of sharing.
It's kind of the same thing with artwork. I really like mmf (and fmm+) stuff, but most such rule34 imagery depicts woman just having stuff done to her, being the object, going through it. Instead of actively enjoying the experience.
All probably due to the fact that the majority of those images are made by men.
 
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masculinity? are you for real? some people really thinking like that?
The amount of absolutely normal shit (mostly even non sexual) some people consider "not masculine" is staggering. Assholes like Andrew Tate with the whole "women are weak and should submit to men" ideology certainly help reinforce those delusions.
 

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I've got this annoying feeling that there is a very big overlap between the ideas spat out by the Tate (and the rest) 'manosphere' and AVNs.
There isn't really. It's just that deeply insecure people tend to be the loudest and do a lot of projecting.

They tend to be more vocal in genre's like this especially because of post nut clarity. They goon, regret it and then have to make it known they're totally (x-thing) and not (x-thing).
 

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There isn't really. It's just that deeply insecure people tend to be the loudest and do a lot of projecting.

They tend to be more vocal in genre's like this though because of post nut clarity. They goon, regret it and then have to make it known they're totally (x-thing) and not (x-thing).
Oh yeah, these guys, whose post history is pretty much only NTR games, definitely hate NTR. Because that's normal when you don't like something to willingly interact only with that thing, day after day. And you are all cucks, haha! But not them!
 

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Anyone have recommendations for games with monster NTS? Preferably not RPGM, but it's fine to recommend those.

Closest I can even think of is Seeds of Chaos and that's really stretching the definition on NTS.
Hey, I do have one more recommendation. Parasite Black is a game where you and your best friend are "infected" and gain the ability to transform into monsters. There is currently both some sharing and monster sex, but not at the same time yet. Maybe keep an eye on it.
 
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