They are still working on bugs. Do you think they want it like Fallout 76 when it was first released?
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- Aug 20, 2019
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Not that long, this little output is ridiculous.
- Dec 12, 2020
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There is nothing ridiculous about taking time to do good work well
- Jun 17, 2019
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Two years on this forum and the only game that moved him enough to finally post (and now even rate) was this one. That has to mean something. I don't exactly know what, but something. Thank god for all those unsung heroes like him whose only reason to live seems to be opening our eyes to see the outrageously lazy milkers devs actually are. What would we do without them. Their valuable input can't never be praised enough. Thanks, thanks. Really.
seems like some people have left the SS thread to come on here
Human error. Although it wasn't an error then, and when I raised the issue, Tom Rothamel agreed that a doubled attribute should not mean anything to a layered image, hence fixing it for the future version of ren'py.
I have already answered this very point many times. My guess is you were too busy complaining to read those responses. But the short of it is that the problem is not something we can simply fix regardless of how much money we're making. Hiring artists is easier said than done since even the best artists have their own style, and we might end up spending the same amount of time adjusting to maintain the same quality and similar style. At least in the short run. If we weren't working on short-term deadlines, then yes, it could save us some time, but that is not the case.
You're welcome to despise our approach, hate the game, imagine you would have done it better, leave one-star reviews, rant about what you will, etc. But I suggest you read my earlier responses here since most of what you're talking about has already been addressed.
For a game like ours, the play-time is entirely dependant on your playstyle. If you found our game lacking in that respect, then yes, perhaps you should wait for a longer period before coming back, or alternatively, play other games that better suit your playstyle.
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- Dec 27, 2019
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Hello magicnuts! I feel a quick note of thanks is needed to balance all the sense of entitlement that I have been noticing. I am very appreciative that you have allowed the game to be distributed here for FREE. The next update will be released when it is ready.
- Aug 1, 2018
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I've been spamming F5 on page one for days hoping to see the debug creep closer to the finish line. And same as the person above me, I feel like sharing some positive words and say that the quality over quantity approach really shows in the final product. Hope v0.5 will be as much fun as the .4 update.
While I'm grateful that the full content is available for free I can sympathize with the patrons who have to wait for as long as they do. I hope you find a way to speed up the process but like I said, quality over quantity.
While I'm grateful that the full content is available for free I can sympathize with the patrons who have to wait for as long as they do. I hope you find a way to speed up the process but like I said, quality over quantity.
- Jul 24, 2017
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Lot of complaints coming from people who I assume don't draw, don't program, and haven't made a game before. I don't think you understand the insane amount of time it can take to draw some of this stuff, let alone animate it.
On top of that I've fiddled with Renpy and made a game that was about ~30 minutes. Stolen backgrounds, garbage character art, completely linear, and not much in the way of unique systems. It took me at least 12 hours. Hell, I'm working on another project in a different system and probably 40+ hours of dev time it's barely got 30 minutes of play time. Making games takes a lot of time. Producing content always takes much longer than consuming it.
This is a game filled to the brim with custom art that borders on eye candy (granted taste in art is subjective at best), free-roam (someting renpy is not designed for natively), a hint system, etc. Every single one of these elements introduces more time to implement and then debug. For every one thing you add three things could potentially break. And I'm not even talking about debugging when everything's done. Half the bugs pop up while you're working! So you go back, fix it, then keep plugging away at adding content. It adds up fast.
Art, too. You find a pose isn't working and have to redo it. Or there's clipping, the nose isn't right. Really, any minor glitch stands out to people real quick, but after staring at it for hours you stopped noticing. That's not even getting into burnout. Even doing something you love can be exhausting after hours a day.
This game came out a bit over a year ago, and has 5+ hours of content with a lot of polish and heart put into it by a team of two. I really think a lot of people complaining don't really have a perspective on how much time and effort these things take.
Seriously, download Ren'py and make a game with 2 characters in a free roam. It will break a dozen times in a dozen different ways. Now draw every background, character, menu item, and so forth. Not even a finished product, just blocking. Say goodbye to at least a full weekend.
Getting a polished product where the devs communicate incredibly clearly on a weekly basis is fantastic. I appreciate what they're doing immensely which is why I quietly watch the tracker with excitement. Go make a game or something, yourselves, with the free time you have to complain.
TL;DR: Making a game is a lot of work. I appreciate what the devs are doing.
On top of that I've fiddled with Renpy and made a game that was about ~30 minutes. Stolen backgrounds, garbage character art, completely linear, and not much in the way of unique systems. It took me at least 12 hours. Hell, I'm working on another project in a different system and probably 40+ hours of dev time it's barely got 30 minutes of play time. Making games takes a lot of time. Producing content always takes much longer than consuming it.
This is a game filled to the brim with custom art that borders on eye candy (granted taste in art is subjective at best), free-roam (someting renpy is not designed for natively), a hint system, etc. Every single one of these elements introduces more time to implement and then debug. For every one thing you add three things could potentially break. And I'm not even talking about debugging when everything's done. Half the bugs pop up while you're working! So you go back, fix it, then keep plugging away at adding content. It adds up fast.
Art, too. You find a pose isn't working and have to redo it. Or there's clipping, the nose isn't right. Really, any minor glitch stands out to people real quick, but after staring at it for hours you stopped noticing. That's not even getting into burnout. Even doing something you love can be exhausting after hours a day.
This game came out a bit over a year ago, and has 5+ hours of content with a lot of polish and heart put into it by a team of two. I really think a lot of people complaining don't really have a perspective on how much time and effort these things take.
Seriously, download Ren'py and make a game with 2 characters in a free roam. It will break a dozen times in a dozen different ways. Now draw every background, character, menu item, and so forth. Not even a finished product, just blocking. Say goodbye to at least a full weekend.
Getting a polished product where the devs communicate incredibly clearly on a weekly basis is fantastic. I appreciate what they're doing immensely which is why I quietly watch the tracker with excitement. Go make a game or something, yourselves, with the free time you have to complain.
TL;DR: Making a game is a lot of work. I appreciate what the devs are doing.
- May 6, 2020
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Pshaw. Next you'll tell us the art production videos they upload from time to time aren't at 1x speed.
- Nov 8, 2019
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What A legend 2077
I love the idea of having a bag of gold that never runs out but there is nothing to buy 
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- Apr 24, 2020
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I've just started on a game project and I've definitely developed a greater appreciation in just a week or so.
- Jun 17, 2019
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Tracker is updated daily. But they are pulling all-nighters now, it's almost 10am in Spain and they are still working so today's tracker is not done yet
They clearly saw that I called a September 10th release about a month ago and are working diligently to prove me right.
- Nov 4, 2017
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Those last few Polish dudes left, must be putting stiff resistance. That's why it takes so long to complete the update.