Niv-Mizzet the Firemind

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I started the game again yesterday because I had lost the saves from the previous version and I ve haone question:
Did petting the foxes in the forest exist in the previous versions? I don't remember that at all.
Edit: btw excellent update, you outdid yourselves.
 

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I started the game again yesterday because I had lost the saves from the previous version and I ve haone question:
Did petting the foxes in the forest exist in the previous versions? I don't remember that at all.
Edit: btw excellent update, you outdid yourselves.
That was last update. It doesn't do anything yet, don't know their plans for the animals other than you won't be able to fuck it.
 

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magicnuts : I completed the update. The following wants to be a brutal-honest feedback from a non-supporter.

I really appreciated the writing. Really. Some nice puns here and there, as usual the nice achievement, and same goes for the animation quality. From my point of view, though, I still see two things that could be have been made better:
  1. the h-scenes: post-orgams you never see MC pulling out, there's no option to "go again", no option to change position in scenes that would allow it (like myrtle at the end in her room iirc)
  2. this is the biggest concern: content amount. The game gets updated every six months or so. Quality is high, but quantity is low. I'm not saying that you guys aren't working enough. But you probably need more personnel or better management to really deliver the content that one would expect in six months of work. Your betatesters said it would take 3-5 hours? That's because you have to go through all the previous content to not have bugs.
Take into account that I DO NOT KNOW your personal situations, but assuming that this game is your full time job, you need to step up with quantity. I watch the crystal ball, see how many scenes there are atm for the current cast of characters and how many you planned and I can't convince myself that the next five years will be enough for you to complete them. If I look at the global map and imagine the cast that could come out from a story that is rich in the same amount for every location, then, with this rythm, you'll be working for your entire lifetime on this game.

You can't take six months to pass from "zero" to 2-3 penetration scenes for only one character (plus 3-4 BJ/TJ/etc scenes distributed around). You won't ever complete this game for real, unless you want to reduce all the following interactions to threesomes/foursomes etc, checking the same event for multiple characters with the same scene in a massive amount.


The following wants to be hopefully of help, I do not mean to disrespect or give the impression that I know more than you do about your business. I just hope to give possible hints to make your business more successful:

At the end of the day, I have eyes too and can see that your business is going well, but is still nowhere close to something that can settle you for life. Your income through patreon gets reduced a lot by the platform itself, taxes and it has to be distributed through team members, which makes it hard to hire more people. Still, other, very similar games, like SS have a solid userbase and income, and let me tell you that your game is not inferior in anything compared to them. Something has to change in the business model imho, to lead to more profits, hardware, people and then content.

For example, if you watch their release history, you can see that their MVP was version 0.07, and from version 0.01 they basically did a release per month without any real content, then moved to 2 months releases with some content, then after a year they started pushing big updates, that sometimes lack new content to rework old content.

The questions that I would ask myself is why do so many people support a game that has nothing better than mine, when I can clearly see that mine is more appreciated by my followers? (that pay roughly almost double per person compared to what SS followers are up to pay DC)

I'm not saying that money has to drive this project. Passion is the strongest fuel. But I'd like to see it completed, fully and properly, before I become the next Sev.
Honestly this is what has been bugging me. The quality of art is always great, and there is an intrinsic limit to how much art one person can do regardless of budget, but it's also completely unrealistic to expect this game to finish development in even half a decade considering how massive their scope seems to be, at least with this pace.

Summertime Saga has been in development for...what, half a century now? It's still barely just finished the main story, and the prom that was supposed to be the actual ending still hasn't come, though to their credit they seem to have bettered their pace this last year.
 

HentaiGamerN00b

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That was last update. It doesn't do anything yet, don't know their plans for the animals other than you won't be able to fuck it.
The animals... but not a furry character :v. Maybe the fox mommy is another spirit of the enchanted forest that'll seek MC as a prospect of human worthy or her attentions (if u know what i mean :v) if MC treat her child and her with kindness... Just imagination, but as you state we'll see.. In the same category i have that tree... I believe she must be some kind of dumb nymph who still don't dominate how to hide properly X'D.
 

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At this point, I don't even care for the sex scenes anymore. I'm more interested in the story. This was well worth the wait.
 
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Honestly this is what has been bugging me. The quality of art is always great, and there is an intrinsic limit to how much art one person can do regardless of budget, but it's also completely unrealistic to expect this game to finish development in even half a decade considering how massive their scope seems to be, at least with this pace.

Summertime Saga has been in development for...what, half a century now? It's still barely just finished the main story, and the prom that was supposed to be the actual ending still hasn't come.
Let's just hope Magicnuts doesn't go off the rails that badly. Think how dated summertime already is with it's real life people as characters. Trumps the mayor, because he was president, remember that, sure he hasn't been for years now but he was once so it's funny, lets add the russian guy he'll still be in charge in 5 years i guess.....


At this point, I don't even care for the sex scenes anymore. I'm more interested in the story. This was well worth the wait.
Yeah it's annoying how good it is at that. Wanting to progress with all of them but knowing it'll be this time next year for some sucks, but it is what it is, we can't magic up more art without time travel and i've only figured out how to go forwards less than a second at a time so far.
 
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j4yj4m

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Let's just hope Magicnuts doesn't go off the rails that badly. Think how dated summertime already is with it's real life people as characters. Trumps the mayor, because he was president, remember that, sure he hasn't been for years now but he was once so it's funny, lets add the russian guy he'll still be in charge in 5 years i guess.....
To be fair, Rump's character was made a bit before he became president and his character works well even if somebody has no idea who he actually is.

As for WaL!, I'm pretty sure that it'll last about as long as SS, simply because one human being can only draw so much content in a day, a month, a year, etc. and the scope seems to be somewhat comparable.
Then again, WaL! won't have to deal with all of the growing pains SS had and still has to go through. Ultimately DC "wasted" about ~1,5 years before he started to take the game (which was never really supposed to be a game in the first place) seriously and that still shows and causes additional work. WaL! on the other hand won't have to deal with any of these problems...
 

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Thanks. I hope that there is no sex with them, I asked because i found the petting scenes utterly adorable.
Same, i wanted a separate character running a petting zoo or something where the more you find, the more she does stuff instead but that's a lot of work to animate what would effectively be more hidden photos

But talking of foxes made me think of.....

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I must say that I play these porn games almost only for sex scenes, I like if there is decent story to support sex. I play other games, read books and watch movies for great strories. But we all have our own needs and objects of interest.
 

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BTW, is Rose cursed? She said something along the lines that if she would have sex with Lassie he would have died...
 

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BTW, is Rose cursed? She said something along the lines that if she would have sex with Lassie he would have died...
Seems like it, that was her deal in the initial encounter, she also can't come out during day time and only at night.

Thinking of it, Rose is a good follow up anyway with it now being a confirmed thing that MC's jizz breaks curses, I think besides Maple she's the only one with a curse.
 
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BTW, is Rose cursed? She said something along the lines that if she would have sex with Lassie he would have died...
I wouldn't be suprised if she's a lycantrope
Seems like it, that was her deal in the initial encounter, she also can't come out during day time and only at night.

Thinking of it, Rose is a good follow up anyway with it now being a confirmed thing that MC's jizz breaks curses, I think besides Maple she's the only one with a curse.
We've already dealt with a big bad wolf during Myrtle's story arc.
I'd rather think Rose could be
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But I've been known to be off the mark sometimes. ;)
Far off the mark even...
 

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We've already dealt with a big bad wolf during Myrtle's story arc.
I'd rather think Rose could be
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But I've been known to be off the mark sometimes. ;)
Far off the mark even...
It's true, vampire is another option logically on popular myths, I mainly lean towards the werewolf angle since I remember another game (Quest for Glory 4) that had a Gypsie group of shapeshifters who operated at night.

Rose just feels like she fits that on the nose but I'm totally fine if it's something else.
 
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