Ren'Py What a Legend! [v0.7.03] [MagicNuts]

[Oregano696]

These devs went from "promising" with a $300 Patreon to the new slacking, full of excuses "ICSTOR" within 3 updates...
Seems like the main rule in this sector is that the more money you get on Patreon, the slower your output has to be...

Shame.

I think at this pace one bug fix per day, 3 days of testing and a couple of excuses along the way, they will make it till the end of the month.

Of course they will milk this month too. Thats how these things work.

Milfy City has caused irreparable damage to how an entire generation of F95Zone users perceive game development. I hate ICSTOR so much.

 

[mayylok]

someone have the courage to say things as they really are at least .. 3 days ago they told us "two days" and now the emptiness ... a bug a day at this point is ridiculous .. if that's okay for them

 

[bingolebongo]

Milfy City has caused irreparable damage to how an entire generation of F95Zone users perceive game development. I hate ICSTOR so much.

Slightly OT but I've never checked that title out, so I have to ask since people refer to it all the time... What's the story here? Dev gets big on Patreon, stops updating frequently? Or something else? Pardon my ignorance.

 

[HoneyLibido]

Slightly OT but I've never checked that title out, so I have to ask since people refer to it all the time... What's the story here? Dev gets big on Patreon, stops updating frequently? Or something else? Pardon my ignorance.

The short of it - Dev didn't update since 2019 then 2021 june/july came around because the game got the abandoned tag here, then that update was only 400 renders after 2 years and now it's in limbo again.

Hence the "understandable" doubt in many, though it's not the only adult title to do some stuff like that just the most popular and biggest one here though others also being like it dosen't help much.

 

[bingolebongo]

The short of it - Dev didn't update since 2019 then 2021 june/july came around because the game got the abandoned tag here, then that update was only 400 renders after 2 years and now it's in limbo again.

Hence the "understandable" doubt in many, though it's not the only adult title to do some stuff like that just the most popular and biggest one here though others also being like it dosen't help much.

Ta, much obliged.

 

[moskyx]

someone have the courage to say things as they really are at least .. 3 days ago they told us "two days" and now the emptiness ... a bug a day at this point is ridiculous .. if that's okay for them

If you really think they are smashing only 3 bugs per day (and finishing 3 more art/text edit tasks they've encountered, at least check your numbers right) because after 7 months of development it's benefitial for them to slow down that process and not release a new update just in order to keep... doing what, exactly? Getting less money than they could get by releasing the buggy update? Because releases always mean a boost in Patreon numbers to every single dev out there, but for some reason you think they prefer to not do so and keep dragging the update while facing constant questioning about 'update when' and milking accusations... well, excuse me sir but that IS ridiculous.

 

[hrimthyrs]

someone have the courage to say things as they really are at least .. 3 days ago they told us "two days" and now the emptiness ... a bug a day at this point is ridiculous .. if that's okay for them

Literally a lie. What they actually said was:

Once everything is finished, we will spend two or three days testing all of the content (including the stuff from the previous releases) and then -- if we can't find new bugs -- publish the 0.5 update and message you with the download link.

 

[whichone]

Literally a lie. What they actually said was:

lol Don't let facts get in the way of an entitled argument!
Waaaah, hurry up and let me steal your game!!



Credit to Sycho for the image!

 

[SuccubusLover69]

Just stfu and let them work, it comes when it comes. they should stop giving weekly updates just because of entitled pricks like u.

shit happens irl and they owe us nothing.

 

[mayylok]

i m a liar

 

[hrimthyrs]

Yes, this game with weekly progress updates, a progress tracker that updates daily, and frequent videos showing the artist at work is going the route of the game that collected dust for two years before dropping a token update to reset the "abandoned" tag.

 

[whichone]

Yes, this game with weekly progress updates, a progress tracker that updates daily, and frequent videos showing the artist at work is going the route of the game that collected dust for two years before dropping a token update to reset the "abandoned" tag.

I knew that the image I posted was going to be relevant!

 

[chemicalvamp]

I need to get a job, So I can pay you to work on this Keep doing what you're doing, and I promise this game will take the top spot around here.

 

[moskyx]

Yes, this game with weekly progress updates, a progress tracker that updates daily, and frequent videos showing the artist at work is going the route of the game that collected dust for two years before dropping a token update to reset the "abandoned" tag.

First ever comment after 2 years registered, and chooses to post it exactly today, in this thread, after so many hating posts. Just ignore him. Either it's a very basic troll or an alt account, but his only desire is to keep this shitty trend rolling

 

[whichone]

Hence the "understandable" doubt in many, though it's not the only adult title to do some stuff like that just the most popular and biggest one here though others also being like it dosen't help much.

I see where you're coming from, but I disagree that it's "understandable doubt".
I think that it's misplaced doubt.
Just because one major example behaved that way, is a reason for caution, but not a universal defence against all.

If a dev displays the same syptoms as Icstor then, fine, you can start to understand the caution & why people would want to safeguard.
But, when the dev is providing weekly updates & a progress tracker which is updated daily, this dev does not seem to be displaying the signature moves of someone ready to leave their game in the dirt for a year.

So there is no need to automatically default to that position.
That's closer to being paranoia, than a justifiable defence.

 

[hrimthyrs]

I knew that the image I posted was going to be relevant!

Except I'm the screaming possum because every single thread I watch is nothing but "it's been 24 hours since the last update and nothing! scam! milking! Patreon backers are suckers!" in recent weeks. I wished that the endless fucking arguments caused by people claiming obviously not-NTR content was somehow NTR in every thread would go away, and the monkey's paw didn't just move, it laughed at me.

 

[whichone]

Except I'm the screaming possum because every single thread I watch is nothing but "it's been 24 hours since the last update and nothing! scam! milking! Patreon backers are suckers!" in recent weeks. I wished that the endless fucking arguments caused by people claiming obviously not-NTR content was somehow NTR in every thread would go away, and the monkey's paw didn't just move, it laughed at me.

Mate, I'm afraid that it's the argument against "common" sense.
World's biggest oxymoron, it's the least common thing on the planet.

You see the same types campaigning for kink removal from a game which is clearly tagged with that kink.
Ignore facts. Ignore anything which doesn't fit their agenda. Waaaahhhh.

All boils down to entitlement. Sadly some have lost sight of earning things, or waiting patiently for them otherwise, instead of simply demanding them.

 

[HoneyLibido]

I see where you're coming from, but I disagree that it's "understandable doubt".
I think that it's misplaced doubt.
Just because one major example behaved that way, is a reason for caution, but not a universal defence against all.

If a dev displays the same syptoms as Icstor then, fine, you can start to understand the caution & why people would want to safeguard.
But, when the dev is providing weekly updates & a progress tracker which is updated daily, this dev does not seem to be displaying the signature moves of someone ready to leave their game in the dirt for a year.

So there is no need to automatically default to that position.
That's closer to being paranoia, than a justifiable defence.

I probably didn't convey it the best way but yeah I basically agree with you when I emphasised understandable like that, it's definitely not on the same tier as the most notorious titles we can use as shining examples, far from it currently.

 

[isabel95]

Guys, you can pretend like these criticisms are invalid and those people are just random jerks jealous of someone's success, but the undeniable fact at this point is that there seems to be an inverse relationship between patreon subscriber count and update release speed. These are not isolated examples anymore, it seems to happen to every single successful game dev on here - as soon as they have established a decent following, their ambition to push their game forward seems to decline. Even the ones that are very transparent and ambitious (to which I definitely count magicnuts) don't seem exempt from that.

Look at the most popular dev on here, DrPinkCake, with his 13,564 patreons. He gets so much money per month by now he is more than able to make this game his fulltime job and hire people to speed up the process on top of it. Yet, despite this ridiculous monthly compensation and the huge crowd of people paying for his work, his update speeds have been declining steadily (I seem to remember him promising a new update every 3 months in the beginning of Being a DIK, now its more like 6)


So yes we can't really complain about this if we don't pay money for it and yes, it's very understandable for fans of a game to defend the dev (especially when he is giving us a great content for free), but maybe don't discard this criticism so easily when there's clearly a worrysome trend going on in this industry.

 

[Triaxe]

Imagine being so mad at some other dev that you come into other threads to harass actual good devs. Put the tweezers down and give that pencil-dick a rest. The game will be ready when it's ready.