Clobbertime

Member
Jan 10, 2021
279
448
But what about Amazon? They make very fast deliveries, have very competitive (cheap) prices, and provide very good products on a relatively well-designed (good) website.
Unless you don't pay extra to get the Prime service, then they will leave your order sitting in a warehouse for a while before shipping it so it will take you longer to get it and to try and coerce you into paying the monthly fee for standard delivery.
 

Blades1138

Active Member
Jul 29, 2017
559
1,163
But what about Amazon? They make very fast deliveries, have very competitive (cheap) prices, and provide very good products on a relatively well-designed (good) website.
Bad example, the amount of times I've received things badly packaged and boxes damaged in transit is way more than I've received them intact.
Also consider those making it happen behind the scenes that are working in horrible conditions. Are you suggesting the devs work 24/7 just to deliver something to you for free ?
 

arigatogyro

Member
Jun 27, 2017
491
667
The art is amazing, but I am a little worried with the outlook of the game because of how much work it must be to create all those backgrounds and set pieces, and with at least two more towns to flesh out.
 

HogRocket

Engaged Member
Jun 8, 2020
2,437
12,699
The art is amazing, but I am a little worried with the outlook of the game because of how much work it must be to create all those backgrounds and set pieces, and with at least two more towns to flesh out.
That just means we are going to get another 20 years of What a Legend! :love: :LOL:
 

Blades1138

Active Member
Jul 29, 2017
559
1,163
These kid of things are due to your device's graphic processing capacity. The game is oddly heavy to run
I don't think that's the main cause. I never had issues before update 0.5, but with it I saw some graphics either transition in advance or linger around longer than expected. I believe the new renpy version might be the cause, as it obviously caused other problems for the game's release.
 
  • Like
Reactions: moskyx

Blades1138

Active Member
Jul 29, 2017
559
1,163
My GPU is a couple of years old & I have been running games which adapted to the not so new version of Ren'Py for a good while and have never seen any of them display graphical anomalies, like the one in the image.
I have also not experienced any with this game, whatsoever.

I'd reserve judgement, saying it's unlikely to be the main cause, until you see what GPU the guy with the problem is running.
He may well be on 10+ year old equipment. If his GPU does not have enough VRAM then you can see things like that occur with heavier images & animations.
He's not the only guy having graphical glitches, as I mentioned I had them too. I don't consider 8 core i7 + GTX 1080 to be a low end config. I do have to admit I used the rollback feature, which might be a contributing factor to reproduce some of these glitches.

This also doesn't have anything to do with old renpy versions and is specifically about the the latest available at the time of 0.5, which has a bug that the older ones didn't. If you've been following the thread you might remember the devs mentioning a significant issue with animations because of it, which caused additional delay. This bug is less likely to appear in other games as most of them use 1-2 layers at most, unlike WaL where the complexity of the animations require multiple layers.
 
May 26, 2019
355
360
That's an invalid comparison.
Primarily due to the fact that the expression is directly in relation to producing products/goods.
Not quite true. I've heard this expression used in relation to services as well.

Plumbers, electricians, and mechanics often use it when people complain about how long their repair services take or how much those services cost.


Bad example, the amount of times I've received things badly packaged and boxes damaged in transit is way more than I've received them intact.
That really sucks man! Personally, I have always gotten my things fairly packaged and completely undamaged. There are people I know who've had the same problems as you but they're very rare and they've always been able to get a refund.

I hope that you are also able to get refunds for damaged items.


Also consider those making it happen behind the scenes that are working in horrible conditions. Are you suggesting the devs work 24/7 just to deliver something to you for free ?
That's a service, not a product. But sure, because you found an online store that doesn't actually make something, developpers have no excuse to pump out complete tripple A games every week for next to no money.
Have no idea where people are getting the notion that game developers should "work 24/7" under "horrible conditions" or "pump out complete triple A games every week for next to no money" from my post.

The point of my post wasn't to compare indie game developers to a large, multinational, multi-billion dollar corporation. Obviously, there is no comparison and that's why my original post doesn't even mention MagicNuts or any other game developer for that matter.

I was just providing a reasonable counter-example to the often stated mantra of "Fast, Good, Cheap: Pick One!"

But I guess I should apologize for not recognizing that hatred for Amazon extends to even the farthest (and horniest) depths of the internet.

I think it best we forget about Amazon. This thread is far better suited for complimenting a game you love than complaining about a mega-corp you love to hate.
 

Funman619

Newbie
Dec 12, 2019
80
145
I know theres no NTR at the moment but will their be an option for it in the future? Holly's story has been set up almost exactly for optional NTR.
 

SuddenReal

Well-Known Member
Jun 21, 2017
1,554
2,335
I was just providing a reasonable counter-example to the often stated mantra of "Fast, Good, Cheap: Pick One!"
The reason why that mantra is often stated is because it's true. Sure, there are exceptions to it, but there's a valid reason that's not applicable to everyone (mainly the initial budget so they can provide it cheap on a large scale). But the reason why you got so much "hate" for it was because the initial post complained it'll never finish with the quality the game has right now, so obviously, anything that tries to counter any reason why the long updates are justified implies they're not valid excuses.
 
May 26, 2019
355
360
The reason why that mantra is often stated is because it's true. Sure, there are exceptions to it, but there's a valid reason that's not applicable to everyone (mainly the initial budget so they can provide it cheap on a large scale).
Yes, we all know the old saying - "The exception proves the rule!"

All I did was point out that Amazon is such an exception.

You know what else is also an exception? Early smartphones. The first smartphones were better than their typical cell-phone counterparts/competitors (good), faster than those competitors (fast), and relatively cheaper (meaning that the cost of the smartphone relative to all the things it could do was much better than the cost of the cell-phone relative to the few things it could do - cheap).

In the end, my comment was only a response to the mantra and not anything else. Which is kind of why I only quoted the mantra and nothing else.


But the reason why you got so much "hate" for it was because the initial post complained it'll never finish with the quality the game has right now, so obviously, anything that tries to counter any reason why the long updates are justified implies they're not valid excuses.
(1) If you read my earlier post more carefully, I never said, nor implied, that I got any hate. I only said that Amazon is hated - which it is.

(2) It's obvious that quality game updates take time, which is why I never complain about update wait-times. Well, except for "Summertime Saga." But that's only because Dark Cookie pulls in so much Patreon money that he could afford to hire a full-on team to help him develop.

(3) My original post was only meant to provide a counter-example to the mantra, to show that the old mantra isn't all-encompassing as many like to believe. Just because you inferred from it that I believe reasons for long wait-times are all non-valid does not mean that I implied it.

(4) Even though I'm a strong believer that players should learn to be patient for updates to their favorite games (especially when the games are provide for free), to be fair to the serial complainers, not every excuse for long updates is a valid one. Most indeed are! But not all!
 
Last edited:
4.70 star(s) 464 Votes