KingsRaiden

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Still loving the game, and I just satisfy my impulses with others until this one comes out, with the number of games here with staggered releases there is plenty to fill time with.

The art and story are great, and it's not an issue to wait for the next version, since we aren't paying. Those who are, seem ok with it, if not they can unsubscribe anytime.
 

KekWGgWP

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As much as I love this game, I don't see wal surviving for a decade, and a decade is what it needs to even come close to finishing the game at this point. The map is massive, the character cast is massive, and each one needs a year to do. It's not happening.
The survival of every game depends on how much money it makes, i'm pretty sure that's the case with this game too so it's hard to say how the game will look in 10 years.

The problem is that every update seems to get longer and longer with every new release and i doubt people would enjoy waiting more and more every single time.

But i kind of agree with you, at the speed this game goes i don't see it ever getting finished and 10 years is a long mark that would most likely won't get it.
 

gnub33

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The survival of every game depends on how much money it makes, i'm pretty sure that's the case with this game too so it's hard to say how the game will look in 10 years.

The problem is that every update seems to get longer and longer with every new release and i doubt people would enjoy waiting more and more every single time.

But i kind of agree with you, at the speed this game goes i don't see it ever getting finished and 10 years is a long mark that would most likely won't get it.
And burn out is a thing. They might treat as. 9-5 job now (idk) but creative work is grueling. Especially on a potentially never ending project. Could you imagine if JK was still writing Harry Potter books for more money? Passion dried up in pursuit of income. Even JRR Martin seems to be done with his series.
Their family will get older and the need for money will arise. Stress from that and fans complaining about the slow progress can’t feel good. Maybe they should expand their team. Even if they never finish, the fans can be drip fed content at a more reasonable pace.
Honestly as long as I have something to play every few months, I ok. Not great but I wouldn’t feel like I’m wasting money supporting the project.

btw, not to be a downer but look at what happened duskyhollows. I’m sure nobody wants any trouble in the devs relationship. But it’s a rare couple who can work professionally together for a long time. I hope they make it.
 

BigDilly48

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It's this game and I think Ocean's games like Summer's Gone and WIAB that I see there being a decent chance of still being worked on in a decade from now (if they continue to do so).
 
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It's this game and I think Ocean's games like Summer's Gone and WIAB that I see there being a decent chance of still being worked on in a decade from now (if they continue to do so).
I rather have new updates, Summer's Gone hasn't had a progress in story for a long time, even the last update was just a rework of the first few chapters.
 
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BorsDeGanis

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As much as I love this game, I don't see wal surviving for a decade, and a decade is what it needs to even come close to finishing the game at this point. The map is massive, the character cast is massive, and each one needs a year to do. It's not happening.
Honestly, I knew production would slow down when the devs said they just had a child. To the people who don't know what that is like-- that is essentially telling everyone that you decided to take another fulltime job on top of the production. It's exhausting and endless and there is probably going to result in updates doubling in time frames. This game is nice, but I wouldn't expect it to be a consistent source of content anymore. They made their choice and we should respect that.
 

reees754

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Honestly, I knew production would slow down when the devs said they just had a child. To the people who don't know what that is like-- that is essentially telling everyone that you decided to take another fulltime job on top of the production. It's exhausting and endless and there is probably going to result in updates doubling in time frames. This game is nice, but I wouldn't expect it to be a consistent source of content anymore. They made their choice and we should respect that.
I always have to smile when i read how you guys convince each other that the delays has to do with the child or the accident the dev went through :-D
The models are reused over and over in the story, and the rest of it doesn´t excuse anything above 2-3 month of update time.

One month after the last update i looked at the progress the game was making and thinking to myself "What the heck are they doing if the progress keeps up like that the next update will release into 2024??? Maybe taking time off after the updaterelease ok it´ll probably get faster after this" But nope. No change at all :-D

Look up the progress this game made from the last update, the progress is pretty consistent the same from beginning, no changes, no dips because of sickness or whatever. Very easy to trace back really.

This dev just laid out a plan from the beginning with BS-tasks he supposedly does to pacify the patreons and milk them with as little effort as possible. I don´t think the devs on this game work more than an hour or two per week on average on this update or maybe the update even is already finished a year ago :-D

It has nothing to do with kids, sickness or whatever, only maximizing income with no effort.
The dev knows it.
That one guy that excuses them by doing some insane mind gymnastics knows it (has to be paid by the dev to cover here, otherwise it would be really pathetic).
The nice, naive bootlickers subconsciously deep down know it.
I think everybody knows it beside the naive, goodhearted patreons that pay thinking they´re supporting development, when in reality they do exactly the opposite. :-D

Somebody mentioned that he thinks the next update will be the last and judging how things are going he´s probably right :-/

What a shame for such a good and promising game ,,,

It´s good though there are in every aspect far superior games on this site though that get consistant and fast updates ! One dev completes a whole game in the time this dev needs for one update. :cool:
 
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reees754

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I visit this thread once every few months... it feels like you all are just going in circles... constantly the same exact arguments... Don't you all have better things to do than bitch and moan about a free game?
It´s funny that your type of comment is part of the cycle too! :-D Your last sentence is nothing i haven´t red a dozen times.

There was an very interesting convo going on in this thread a couple of months ago with one member posting very very interesting pictures about the topic. I guarantee you way more interesting, riveting stuff than you normally see here in this thread.
It was in comparision and related to this game but because it was about another game too everything got erased..... all comments relating that topic the pictures, everything. It´s like somebody "influential" got jealous or whatever, maybe afraid the conclusions made were true and very eye-opening and "snitched" to the mod who then erased everything, when a "warning" to stay on topic would have been more than enough.

In my opinion it even was on topic and related, but whatever we´re left with the random incoming of:
"This game is so great"
"When is the next update coming"
"This poor dev has kids, be understanding, 2 years between updates is ok, the quality is so good. The next update will take 5 years that´s ok too. Didn´t you know the dev had a kid be a little unterstanding. The quality is so good, did i mention he hurt himself and also had a kid i forgot to tell you," :-D

Have fun in this thread on the next 100 pages with the variations of these 3 sentences. Echochamber wanted :-D

The really interesting posts get erased.
 
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It´s funny that your type of comment is part of the cycle too! :-D Your last sentence is nothing i haven´t red a dozen times.

There was an very interesting convo going on in this thread a couple of months ago with one member posting very very interesting pictures about the topic. I guarantee you way more interesting, riveting stuff than you normally see here in this thread.
It was in comparision and related to this game but because it was about another game too everything got erased..... all comments relating that topic the pictures, everything. It´s like somebody "influential" got jealous or whatever, maybe afraid the conclusions made were true and very eye-opening and "snitched" to the mod who then erased everything, when a "warning" to stay on topic would have been more than enough.

In my opinion it even was on topic and related, but whatever we´re left with the random incoming of:
"This game is so great"
"When is the next update coming"
"This poor dev has kids, be understanding, 2 years between updates is ok, the quality is so good. The next update will take 5 years that´s ok too. Didn´t you know the dev had a kid be a little unterstanding. The quality is so good, did i mention he hurt himself and also had a kid i forgot to tell you," :-D

Have fun in this thread on the next 100 pages with the variations of these 3 sentences. Echochamber wanted :-D

The really interesting posts get erased.
Is it really important? There comes an update or not. Lots of games have updates, and lots of great games get abandoned. We can only hope there comes a new update soon.

Does it really matter how people get their money by using patreon? Does the world become a better place when some developer doesn't get to milk it anymore, because you prevented it?

We have governments who steal our money by heavy taxation, come up with useless wars and send our money to kill people there, or come up with made up crisis after crisis to steal even more money. Making us people feel miserable. And you laugh at people who hope by paying some developer some money, that he gives them a little joy.

I think you have you priorities wrong...
 

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You know, with the amount of effort and content already in the game, no, with 3/4th of that, the creators could have made a complete game and everyone would have loved it unanimously. Their only fault was that they were a bit too starry eyed, creating a huge overworld map with named places, giving Myrtle and Rose so many scenes that other storylines would feel incomplete without just as much content.
The amount of stuff they have to make now for shepherd girl, mirror girl, Waldo's wife, the princess, the sex worker, the orc, to only name the already introduced character, there's no way they are 83 percent done.
 
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You know, with the amount of effort and content already in the game, no, with 3/4th of that, the creators could have made a complete game and everyone would have loved it unanimously. Their only fault was that they were a bit too starry eyed, creating a huge overworld map with named places, giving Myrtle and Rose so many scenes that other storylines would feel incomplete without just as much content.
The amount of stuff they have to make now for shepherd girl, mirror girl, Waldo's wife, the princess, the sex worker, the orc, to only name the already introduced character, there's no way they are 83 percent done.
83% of the next update, not of the whole game, looking at the map, they could go on for years...

It's 83% of the next update with the green girl's quest.
 
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