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Angaort

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Gotta disagree on art, I think Chestnut was still up to her usual high level.
Sadly, she's not. And, as I said before, 0,7 version became the first one, where the characters style became to vary in different cases. Just look at Gomira's previous arts:
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Three different scenes, three different angles, but in all of them Gomira's drawn with the same appearance, and still recognizable.
And now look at one of her arts in 0,7 version:
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Her face here looks much younger, smaller and softer, then it was before. Here she looks like some goblin, not an orc.
And if it's not assure you, look at Rose then. That's how she was drawn in previous versions:
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And that's how she was drawn on the new art in 0,7:
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"Usual high level", you say? I have to disagree.
 

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Sadly, she's not. And, as I said before, 0,7 version became the first one, where the characters style became to vary in different cases. Just look at Gomira's previous arts:
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Three different scenes, three different angles, but in all of them Gomira's drawn with the same appearance, and still recognizable.
And now look at one of her arts in 0,7 version:
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Her face here looks much younger, smaller and softer, then it was before. Here she looks like some goblin, not an orc.
And if it's not assure you, look at Rose then. That's how she was drawn in previous versions:
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And that's how she was drawn on the new art in 0,7:
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"Usual high level", you say? I have to disagree.
Oh, your post helped me catch something about this game's art that I couldn't put my finger on until now.

They draw most of the faces and expressions in 3/4th profile, as they appear in the character portraits. And then they copy-paste that face on most sex scenes, with some flipping and rotating of course.

So, in the three Gomira scenes you posted, the first two actually have the same face angle. For Rose, all three "before" pictures are actually the same angle.

That explains my grievance, which was that the lighting and poses always felt slightly off. Case study: the second picture of Rose. Apart from the obvious mole on the wrong cheek, the entire face is in the dark, but it still has the relatively high contrast diffused light it had in the portrait, and also the bounce light on the right. The poses also have to be chosen so that they can get away with the face still turned the same way, hence the slightly unnatural poses.

As for your grievance, the faces were consistent before, because they were literally *the same face* just pasted over the body. When we do see unique drawings, last update does seem to do better than this one, so your point holds.
 

storm1051787

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Sadly, she's not. And, as I said before, 0,7 version became the first one, where the characters style became to vary in different cases. Just look at Gomira's previous arts:
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Three different scenes, three different angles, but in all of them Gomira's drawn with the same appearance, and still recognizable.
And now look at one of her arts in 0,7 version:
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Her face here looks much younger, smaller and softer, then it was before. Here she looks like some goblin, not an orc.
And if it's not assure you, look at Rose then. That's how she was drawn in previous versions:
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And that's how she was drawn on the new art in 0,7:
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"Usual high level", you say? I have to disagree.
These all look very much the same with less harsh lines. Images seem cherry picked at best
 

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I'm honestly not really sure what to say here. I disagree first of all that it was long winded and meandering but I mostly disagree that the skeleton bit mattered at all aside from comedy. The warm town dragon bit seemed like it was the main part that was actually connected to Gomira in their story while the Skeleton bit was mostly just a humorous obstacle that was in our way. The warm town part with the dragon actually tied into Gomira and Mei's backstory as well as establishing some decent amount of lore about the setting. It's weird you're saying that the dragon bit of all thngs seemed padded on because if anything I'd say that was the boner island part. I enjoyed both parts though
Oh, I'm not saying the skeletons part mattered or was anything more than broad comedy. But it's like 3/4 of the entire playtime of the update so if the skeletons bit was the padding, then that means almost nothing was ready before they started rushing to pad it out and I have a hard time believing it was that extreme. Like I said earlier, my theory about the quality and tone shift is the Mei stuff was already planned out and maybe even partially storyboarded for a later chapter, and when people started yelling at them, they looked at what they had ready (a half finished, extremely long and rambling Skeletons quest irrelevant to sex scenes or larger plot), and decided to wrap that up (maybe earlier than originally intended) and push the Mei stuff forward to give the update a good total length without needing as much lead time for planning. It doesn't make sense the other way around bc the Skeletons storyline involves a lot more original arts than the Mei storyline which is, what, four new characters and two locations? (Mei, her son, and dragon in both forms) vs like a half dozen skeleton characters and a half dozen locations. If you were padding out an update you were running late on, why would the padding part be higher effort than the original material?

The Gomira art change is visible but I don't read that as "secret backup artist". For one thing why wouldn't they credit that person / why haven't they come forward about not being credited for their work? For another it still looks very much like Chestnut's art. I think they just retconned Gomira's appearance for some reason. Maybe her original look didn't work as well for how they wanted to draw her going forward. Or maybe they felt she was "the ugly LI" and wanted to give her a "makeover"?
 
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storm1051787

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Oh, I'm not saying the skeletons part mattered or was anything more than broad comedy. But it's like 3/4 of the entire playtime of the update so if the skeletons bit was the padding, then that means almost nothing was ready before they started rushing to pad it out and I have a hard time believing it was that extreme. Like I said earlier, my theory about the quality and tone shift is the Mei stuff was already planned out and maybe even partially storyboarded for a later chapter, and when people started yelling at them, they looked at what they had ready (a half finished, extremely long and rambling Skeletons quest irrelevant to sex scenes or larger plot), and decided to wrap that up (maybe earlier than originally intended) and push the Mei stuff forward to give the update a good total length without needing as much lead time for planning. It doesn't make sense the other way around bc the Skeletons storyline involves a lot more original arts than the Mei storyline which is, what, four new characters and two locations? (Mei, her son, and dragon in both forms) vs like a half dozen skeleton characters and a half dozen locations. If you were padding out an update you were running late on, why would the padding part be higher effort than the original material?

The Gomira art change is visible but I don't read that as "secret backup artist". For one thing why wouldn't they credit that person / why haven't they come forward about not being credited for their work? For another it still looks very much like Chestnut's art. I think they just retconned Gomira's appearance for some reason. Maybe her original look didn't work as well for how they wanted to draw her going forward. Or maybe they felt she was "the ugly LI" and wanted to give her a "makeover"?
Ok first thing, Gomira doesn't look any different between her updates. And I don't get the insistence that she does.


Second I think you kind of overestimated how long mc stays on boner island vs warm town. He's not on boner island any longer. It's just a really long update and it's the one where the mc moves around the most were as the others are stationary, so the part on boner island seemed more noticable. But there is only one scene on Boner island vs the three scenes in warm town. Cutscene wise in the gallery there are only around 13 scenes on Boner island but 23 at warm town. The part with the dragon was the longest portion of the update and looking through all the cutscenes and everything Boner island is actually the shortest section of the update. I kind of feeling like your saying the Mei stuff was added on, only because it introduced a new girl, but again like I said eariiler her section of the update was far more involved in Gomira's past than the skeleton part which didn't have anything to do with her and was just kind of a detour gomira pre update.PNG gomira update 7.PNG
 
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Ok first thing, Gomira doesn't look any different between her updates. And I don't get the insistence that she does.


Second I think you kind of overestimated how long mc stays on boner island vs warm town. He's not on boner island any longer. It's just a really long update and it's the one where the mc moves around the most were as the others are stationary, so the part on boner island seemed more noticable. But there is only one scene on Boner island vs the three scenes in warm town. Cutscene wise in the gallery there are only around 13 scenes on Boner island but 23 at warm town. The part with the dragon was the longest portion of the update and looking through all the cutscenes and everything Boner island is actually the shortest section of the update. I kind of feeling like your saying the Mei stuff was added on, only because it introduced a new girl, but again like I said eariiler her section of the update was far more involved in Gomira's past than the skeleton part which didn't have anything to do with her and was just kind of a detour View attachment 4933407 View attachment 4933420
You are mostly right. It's also worth mentioning that, despite being the shortest quest, Boner Island was actually the part that took most of the abnormally long polishing phase. Reading between lines of dev reports, that's the first part they worked on, right after their baby was born, and it was the most affected, quality-wise, by this stressful situation. This forced them to totally change some scenes, adding others like the chibi one, and also led to some heavy text-editing and posing rework. As a consequence, they couldn't implement some other things they wanted to add to the dragon quest, such as a second Percy's song or more barman duties for the MC at the inn, with other characters asking for their favourite drinks.

But I can assure none of these two quests were an afterthought or a quick wrapping up of the update. Mei was always meant to be the antagonist that would help to explain Gomira's turbulent past, and the dragon quest was always planned as her character arc's grand finale, which included Mei's redemption.
 

moskyx

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can any one confirm this has age regression in it?
No, it has nothing of the sort. At most, there's one character who can change her appearance to look like an old shag, but that's all. Actually, devs have made the MC one year older than he originally was.
 
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bogodit

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No, it has nothing of the sort. At most, there's one character who can change her appearance to look like an old shag, but that's all. Actually, devs have made the MC one year older than he originally was.
Fucking patreon, being the bitches they are!
 

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Haven't you know you need to upload the file itself you want to check and not the file's link?Virus total just checks the domain mega.nz instead of file and if you just type mega.nz there you will the get the same result.Not to mention,the description clearly says "Legitimate website which does not serve any malicious purpose"
 
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bogodit

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Yeah, I agree with you. But I dont know what is "behind" like some restriction from Patreon when you publish on other platforms or so. I really dont know background its only my suggestion
Patreon shouldn't even consider doing something if someone has more than one platform to get money from.
Besides, I've seen people with accounts on Patreon, Subscriberstar, Kofi, and many others like them.
 
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