Ren'Py What a Legend! [v0.7.03] [MagicNuts]

[TheDevian]

Damn is this game abandoned now ?

https://f95zone.to/threads/what-a-legend-v0-6-02-magicnuts.51349/post-13142986

 

[SlowMotionBaby]

When it's ready and bug free, in January. Meanwhile, March is walking away...

 

[TVHH]

The game is not abandoned. To label it as such is factually incorrect: I'm working on it right now (well, I was until a few minutes ago when someone on our server said it's been tagged as abandoned here). We will release the 0.7 update when it's ready and bug-free. Until then (back to work).

Rule is rule bro, instead of damage control, I suggest you should do exactly what you just said and the abandoned tag will be removed in no time.

 

[StreamSteam]

This updates will launch... they are not scamming, they are working, labeit very slowly.
The problem is now they have understood they can work incredibly slowly and still get paid a lot. 20 months for an update and they still have an army ready to defend them.
So the next updates will be slow too. Why should they do something in 10 months if they can do it in 20, work less and get paid more?
18 months for Holly update too, who wanna bet?

If they would dump updates faster they would became more popular and earn more.

 

[Brynden]

If they would dump updates faster they would became more popular and earn more.

by working harder and faster, yeah

 

[pothb]

oh wow, has it really been that long since the last release?

 

[Envy*]

In any case for an "abandoned" game, there are a lot of people here.

 

[storm1051787]

You didn´t reply to the "last few pages" though, you replied to him and he posted nothing related to the "abandoned" tag.
He posted in general, he posted:
"
You clowns keep talking about F95 as if no one can criticize anything because it comes here for free. This is the largest website for porn games anywhere, have you any idea how much free advertisement games get just by being here?

This thread literally has 9 million views, good chance the majority of their patreon came from here. "

Again. Its one thing to defend somebody (even if i dont agree with it) but you´re missing his point completely - i dont know if its lacking of reading compehension or whatever. Or was the smoke grenade on purpose?

Yeah because I'm talking in general in the chat instead of Focusing on one specific person. The reason why everyone is talking about f95 is because of the tag

 

[CUNTBLAZER420]

"if" it updates... it's been over a year.
Reasons/excuses aside

I have no doubt it will update. My question is: will it have been worth 2 years wait?

 

[Whitelightsuicide]

So this game ended up being a scam? Sad.

 

[TheDevian]

So this game ended up being a scam? Sad.

No, it's just some people being stupid.

 

[werewolfking65]

2 years of fully paid patreon money with no update, and people are still saying its not a scam lol, how delusional can you get

 

[slick97]

It's just such an entitled thing to be upset about. They actually post weekly updates on their patreon, they've been hard at work this whole time, even during the huge life event of having a kid last year. I'm sorry the update to a free game that you enjoy is taking too long. It's just two people and the quality of content is incredible. They're progress tracker is updated daily, and it's now at almost 96%, so it really won't be long now.

It's a pretty bold move of a dev - whether they're solo or part of a team - to produce content updates every year or two (if the current trend persists). Patreon is a tool that functions the same as Early Access on Steam in that: you release your product early to generate revenue flow that helps release updates in the end goal of releasing a finished product. Whether it's fair or not is irrelevant when a majority of your playerbase abandons your game due to lack of content or any plans for releasing a finished product on time.

In all honestly I get frustrated too sometimes about these sorts of things, particularly with something like summertime saga - those guys pull in like 60k a month on patreon, I feel like the fans deserve a bit more. But I have to remind myself, it takes the time it takes. What can you do? DBAdventures has been waiting for an update for like 2 years as well, and that project is super under the radar considering it's quality. You just have to be patient.

This ties into the point mentioned above, but I'll try to articulate it a bit better here:

It's the responsibility of the developer to properly plan out how to fully release their game in a timely manner. It's the responsibility of the developer to respect their players' time/money. If major life events prevent work from being done on the game then be transparent about it and pause transactions until they're able to resume work.

Additionally, F95 is the best resource any dev has at signal boosting their game - unless they want to gamble on the Steam marketplace (which some have done successfully). Chances are 95% of Patreon supporters for any given campaign originated from this site.

 

[BorsDeGanis]

What !? You interupt your 1 hour/week of working to post here...? That a shame... Patreon drop too hard too fast ?
only 18 month for a 2 hours update with 5/6 quests... so don t be ridiculous with your "i work hard" and go work for real now.

Again, the abandonned tag just work fine, it will be faster by now... But still not convinced to play this game again... maybe i give it a try when it will be finish, if i m not death of old age......

I can tell by this comment that you literally have no idea how long 2D hand drawn things take to make, especially of this quality. You think shit just pops out of thin air. My guy, there are usually around 20 to 50 animators working on a season of anime. Here you effectively have ONE artist doing everything. Your shit stained ass would probably give up in a week if you were doing what she was doing.

I can get being mad and disappointed it has taken so long for the next update but you literally have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.

 

[werewolfking65]

I can tell by this comment that you literally have no idea how long 2D hand drawn things take to make, especially of this quality. You think shit just pops out of thin air. My guy, there are usually around 20 to 50 animators working on a season of anime. Here you effectively have ONE artist doing everything. Your shit stained ass would probably give up in a week if you were doing what she was doing.

I can get being mad and disappointed it has taken so long for the next update but you literally have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.

OK, since you seem to know exactly what you’re talking about, what exactly is being drawn over the course of 2 entire years? There is no world in which a SINGLE update takes 2 years to draw scenes for, people have made entire games in less time, or at least several updates worth of scenes.

And we’re talking individual sex scenes, which should be taking up most of the time, most of the game is sprites that have already been drawn long ago, standing over a background that likely has been drawn long ago as well, with a textbox below, that is it. It allows full asset reuse once you create each of the components once, with maybe some facial expressions needed to be added in, that’s it.

So unless this update has a full visual novel’s worth of sex scenes and new backgrounds, which I highly doubt, it did not take 2 damn years to make.

 

[BorsDeGanis]

OK, since you seem to know exactly what you’re talking about, what exactly is being drawn over the course of 2 entire years?

Literally more content then most devs on this site make in two years, with higher quality. That's an objective fact if you look at any given random game here. This person isn't moving 3D models around in an animator, they are LITERALLY doing it by hand.

There is no world in which a SINGLE update takes 2 years to draw scenes for,

There actually is.

people have made entire games in less time, or at least several updates worth of scenes.

Give me devs on this site who are hand drawing things that have made an entire game longer than this. I'll wait.

And we’re talking individual sex scenes, which should be taking up most of the time, most of the game is sprites that have already been drawn long ago,

These aren't sprites you absolute moron. Every frame is a new individual drawing. They might be able to speed up the process with modern 2D drawing programs but they aren't just moving sprites around. This is what I mean. You are just like the last guy, completely ignorant as to what is actually going on, but of course you have a strong opinion DESPITE that ignorance.

standing over a background that likely has been drawn long ago as well,

WRONG each scene calls for different frames and different angles. Go back and play this game over. All the character driven scenes are unique to that arc for the most part. And MOST of the game backgrounds are yet to even show up in the game. Probably less than 1/4th of the backgrounds have been drawn, if that.

with a textbox below, that is it.

It allows full asset reuse once you create each of the components once, with maybe some facial expressions needed to be added in, that’s it.

Where did you learn this bullshit?

So unless this update has a full visual novel’s worth of sex scenes and new backgrounds, which I highly doubt, it did not take 2 damn years to make.

Nothing about what you said is situated in reality. It's coming from a horny child with no grasp of the work that goes on in the world around them.

 

[werewolfking65]

Literally more content then most devs on this site make in two years, with higher quality. That's an objective fact if you look at any given random game here. This person isn't moving 3D models around in an animator, they are LITERALLY doing it by hand.



There actually is.



Give me devs on this site who are hand drawing things that have made an entire game longer than this. I'll wait.



These aren't sprites you absolute moron. Every frame is a new individual drawing. They might be able to speed up the process with modern 2D drawing programs but they aren't just moving sprites around. This is what I mean. You are just like the last guy, completely ignorant as to what is actually going on, but of course you have a strong opinion DESPITE that ignorance.



WRONG each scene calls for different frames and different angles. Go back and play this game over. All the character driven scenes are unique to that arc for the most part. And MOST of the game backgrounds are yet to even show up in the game. Probably less than 1/4th of the backgrounds have been drawn, if that.







Where did you learn this bullshit?



Nothing about what you said is situated in reality. It's coming from a horny child with no grasp of the work that goes on in the world around them.

All I’m reading here is cope and all I see is an objective lack of new content whatsoever in over 2 years of paid support from supposedly thousands of people. Take your little owns back to the discord server that I am sure you are a mod of, as they seem to have you and that other guy run damage control for free.

And yes, I’m sure every single frame of the update has been folded a thousand times, yada yada, zzz. Hope the patrons start dropping with the abandoned tag, since this might have been the only thing capable of producing results, even if there’s still no release date in sight as of yet.

 

[VonRaschke]

What makes this game more "abandoned" than Summertime Saga? The use of that tag on here is puzzling.

 

[TheDevian]

What makes this game more "abandoned" than Summertime Saga? The use of that tag on here is puzzling.

StS is sitting at 17 months since their last partial update, this one is at 19 months. They will likely get it next month as well, unless they put out another partial update.

 

[CUNTBLAZER420]

Literally more content then most devs on this site make in two years, with higher quality. That's an objective fact if you look at any given random game here. This person isn't moving 3D models around in an animator, they are LITERALLY doing it by hand.



There actually is.



Give me devs on this site who are hand drawing things that have made an entire game longer than this. I'll wait.



These aren't sprites you absolute moron. Every frame is a new individual drawing. They might be able to speed up the process with modern 2D drawing programs but they aren't just moving sprites around. This is what I mean. You are just like the last guy, completely ignorant as to what is actually going on, but of course you have a strong opinion DESPITE that ignorance.



WRONG each scene calls for different frames and different angles. Go back and play this game over. All the character driven scenes are unique to that arc for the most part. And MOST of the game backgrounds are yet to even show up in the game. Probably less than 1/4th of the backgrounds have been drawn, if that.







Where did you learn this bullshit?



Nothing about what you said is situated in reality. It's coming from a horny child with no grasp of the work that goes on in the world around them.

Its an update for ONE girl. A side girl even. Previously, that was an 8-10 month wait. And yes, I'm aware of the numerous personal issues facing them during that time(new ones every week pretty much), but it doesn't make the wait any less crazy. 2 years for side plot. That's pretty unprecedented, even amongst its also notoriously slow 2d contemporaries.