Ren'Py What a Legend! [v0.7.05] [MagicNuts]

[bratkoratko]

Ok. Let's have some fun with this.

The last release was May 24th, 2023. 562 days, or, roughly 80 weeks.

I concede your argument that the devs are very slow and not putting in a 37.5 hour work week. I am not paying them (and I am making the assumption you are also not paying them) so we have lost nothing monetarily to make us angry. However, I do enjoy the game so will play it for free when it releases, so I can understand frustration in waiting.

But ask yourself what is being gained with negative comments on a porn game pirating site?

Not to single out and individual but purely as an example, I have noticed one person who likes to post regular statistics. I am going to conservatively estimate that this would take about 10 minutes a week. (Collecting information, filling spreadsheet, posting and reading responses, etc.)

Multiply that by 80 weeks, and that individual has spent 4.7 days of their life complaining about a game on the chat board of a porn site. Conservative estimate assumes this is the only game they troll and i will let them run the stats to confirm on this if they like as they are skilled in doing so.

As is commonly stated, one feeling of those that are angry is that the developers don't care about their player base, which argues that they don't read this and therefore, comments are essentially pointless and have no effect.

This is why reading the constant vitriol is so amusing to me.

Reddit moment.

This is a game discussion thread where people talk about the game. But as you helpfully pointed out, the last update was 80 weeks ago, so now when there is nothing to discuss about the actual game we’ve naturally evolved to the next phase: shitting on the devs who still haven’t finished their job. It’s like a primal instinct at this point—when the content stops and there isnt a new one for almost 2 years, the mockery begins.

And oh, I can play your game too.Have you asked yourself the same question: what is being gained with positive comments praising the devs who are over a year + late on a porn game pirating site? Are they suddenly going to feel the warm glow of encouragement and deliver a fully polished masterpiece in timely fashion? Spoiler alert: no. They’ll still be operating at the speed of geological erosion.

So yes, we’ve got trolls trolling devs, devs trolling deadlines, and now we’ve got you trolling the trolls. It’s a beautiful ecosystem of futility. Bravo!

 

[moskyx]

What is to be gained by any message on this site other than asking for help or reviewing the game?
This is a forum for discussing the game, good and bad. Official channels like his discord I am sure are moderated to ensure negative discussion cant really happen. Correct me if I am wrong.

Oh, negative discussion can happen and do happen. Until someone starts insulting others, that is.

Spoiler: A recent exchange in the server

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So feel free to stand corrected

 

[vks017]

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So feel free to stand corrected
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Ok fair enough. I put those words in there because I am not a member of that discord.
The larger point about this forum still stands.

 

[Gulagurag]

Reddit moment.

This is a game discussion thread where people talk about the game. But as you helpfully pointed out, the last update was 80 weeks ago, so now when there is nothing to discuss about the actual game we’ve naturally evolved to the next phase: shitting on the devs who still haven’t finished their job. It’s like a primal instinct at this point—when the content stops and there isnt a new one for almost 2 years, the mockery begins.

And oh, I can play your game too.Have you asked yourself the same question: what is being gained with positive comments praising the devs who are over a year + late on a porn game pirating site? Are they suddenly going to feel the warm glow of encouragement and deliver a fully polished masterpiece in timely fashion? Spoiler alert: no. They’ll still be operating at the speed of geological erosion.

So yes, we’ve got trolls trolling devs, devs trolling deadlines, and now we’ve got you trolling the trolls. It’s a beautiful ecosystem of futility. Bravo!

You make a valid point I didn't consider. The "vacuum needs to be filled" in a sense.

You may have missed my main point. I am not praising the devs. I am 100% agreeing that they are not meeting expectations, yet I am trying to spread positivity and show how negativity helps nothing, and is essentially futile. There is nothing either of us can control with this game, we can only control how we react.

I don't expect anyone to find god. The nature of this site gives none of us the moral high ground. I am hoping people will think twice on what they can accomplish on the chat of a porn site though but understand that this is unlikely. I tried. Take that as you like.

You did make me consider the idea of time's impact changing what the chat is really about and how it loses focus on the original intent. It doesn't change my view, but adds a layer to the argument and I appreciate that.

Thanks

 

[Black Orchid]

Heh you defending devs again after another delayed release with new updated excuses?Definitely a possibility

before you engage in any form of discussion with their mod keep in mind he has over 600+ comments defending them and he doesn't get paid for it.

 

[moskyx]

before you engage in any form of discussion with their mod keep in mind he has over 600+ comments defending them and he doesn't get paid for it.

Some users have as many accusing these and other devs and they don't get paid either, so we're fine, I guess.

 

[slackster]

You make a valid point I didn't consider. The "vacuum needs to be filled" in a sense.

You may have missed my main point. I am not praising the devs. I am 100% agreeing that they are not meeting expectations, yet I am trying to spread positivity and show how negativity helps nothing, and is essentially futile. There is nothing either of us can control with this game, we can only control how we react.

I don't expect anyone to find god. The nature of this site gives none of us the moral high ground. I am hoping people will think twice on what they can accomplish on the chat of a porn site though but understand that this is unlikely. I tried. Take that as you like.

You did make me consider the idea of time's impact changing what the chat is really about and how it loses focus on the original intent. It doesn't change my view, but adds a layer to the argument and I appreciate that.

Thanks

Moralizing on a pirate porn site - there is better use of your time my friend

before you engage in any form of discussion with their mod keep in mind he has over 600+ comments defending them and he doesn't get paid for it.

He does it for free

 

[BisonFan02]

Oh, negative discussion can happen and do happen. Until someone starts insulting others, that is.

Spoiler: A recent exchange in the server

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So feel free to stand corrected

Hot tip for game development and supporter sanity. Make the Discord for patrons only. Require a patron discord role for the server besides an info channel with links. This is a benefit you can give supporters outside the game since that is ultimately "free".

 

[SilverArrow20XX]

Ok. Let's have some fun with this.

The last release was May 24th, 2023. 562 days, or, roughly 80 weeks.

That wasn't a proper update.
That was just some dialogue tweaks to meet Patreon's terms of service to remove possible incest or age implications.
The last real update was July, 2022.

 

[Finuee]

Coincidentally, despite so many zoners' wishes, the dev has just said on Discord that the update will be sent to external testers tomorrow, and the release date is confirmed for Dec 10th.

That's amazing news!

Not to single out and individual but purely as an example, I have noticed one person who likes to post regular statistics. [...] that individual has spent 4.7 days of their life complaining about a game on the chat board of a porn site.

I don't know if you meant me but, in case you did, I'd like to say I'm not complaining about the game when I post the analysis of the progress reports. My intention is only to help people interpret the data so they have a more realistic idea of how much is left to do, with the hope that would stop people from feeling like progress is going back when it's not. I don't feel entitled to their release, I just wait for it and have a little fun playing with data, because that's fun for me. Never meant to troll, and the statistics were never meant as a complain.

If, on the other hand, you didn't mean me, then, well... no harm in making that clear, to avoid misunderstandings.

 

[mathluccas]

Ok. Let's have some fun with this.

The last release was May 24th, 2023. 562 days, or, roughly 80 weeks.

I concede your argument that the devs are very slow and not putting in a 37.5 hour work week. I am not paying them (and I am making the assumption you are also not paying them) so we have lost nothing monetarily to make us angry. However, I do enjoy the game so will play it for free when it releases, so I can understand frustration in waiting.

But ask yourself what is being gained with negative comments on a porn game pirating site?

Not to single out and individual but purely as an example, I have noticed one person who likes to post regular statistics. I am going to conservatively estimate that this would take about 10 minutes a week. (Collecting information, filling spreadsheet, posting and reading responses, etc.)

Multiply that by 80 weeks, and that individual has spent 4.7 days of their life complaining about a game on the chat board of a porn site. Conservative estimate assumes this is the only game they troll and i will let them run the stats to confirm on this if they like as they are skilled in doing so.

As is commonly stated, one feeling of those that are angry is that the developers don't care about their player base, which argues that they don't read this and therefore, comments are essentially pointless and have no effect.

This is why reading the constant vitriol is so amusing to me.

Idk who you're talking about, but I post a comment memeing the devs every other month or so. What is more concerning is the amount of time the discord mod spent white knighting for them without getting paid. Don't believe me? Go back a couple of hundred pages and you'll see him being extremely passive agressive towards people that were joking over the update taking too long.

Last real update was in the middle of 2022, btw. Other ''updates'' that came after were just changes due to patreon ToS.

 

[shazba jnr]

The update releasing after almost 3 years is not the own you think it is, discord mod.

But getting paid the whole time is.

 

[mathluccas]

But getting paid the whole time is.

I think he admitted to be moderating for free, iirc.

Or are you talking about the devs? If so I agree lol, it must be nice to get ~7k a month to post (totally not made-up) progress reports. Can't say I blame them, I'd probably do the same in their position.

 

[pupperito]

Probably they play start and end again themself in a whole day for bugs testing , if not wrong I remembered that my first play this game with rose fully update content 0.6 version took almost a day and 20 above save took !!

Not sure if this is even what you mean, but if you think they have to click through the whole game to get near the end, I assure you that is not the case at all. It's a label based system in renpy you could very easily jump to where you need to be, such as set up a button/choice that does that and sets whatever relevant variables that scene needs. If somehow they are NOT doing that, that would be hilarious and no wonder why everything takes so long

 

[DemiMaximoff]

Moralizing on a pirate porn site - there is better use of your time my friend

This is such a retarded argument. Just because I downloaded a game for free, I am supposed to have no morals here at all? You expect us to discuss eating babies because we're waiting for a game to come out?

 

[Ragingrager]

You expect us to discuss eating babies because we're waiting for a game to come out?

Yes.

 

[Finuee]

So guys, bbq sauce or mayonnaise?

 

[GERMAZM]

2 YEARS
4 MOUNTH

 

[DemiMaximoff]

2 YEARS
4 MOUNTH

Yes that's when the meat is right amount of tender

 

[Papallymo]

I come here to discuss the orc lady, not eating babies