Ren'Py What a Legend! [v0.7.05] [MagicNuts]

[Deleted member 6820464]

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92.94% and the total keeps growing.

But with this speed, we might be Q3/4 of 2024. It better be a huge update...

And the next update I want to see unicorns and mermaids...

 

[Porn_Jesus]

Can't wait to see that this is just a tech demo and the real new build is still at 0 %.

 

[whichone]

But with this speed, we might be Q3/4 of 2024. It better be a huge update...

"With this speed" it went from being 91.5%, on 28th Dec, to being 92.2%, on 31st Dec.
That means it took 3 days for a 0.7% total increase.
There is 7.8% remaining. If it continues "with this speed", it would take circa 34 days.
Give it a couple of months, it should be close.

They stated a few times that this is the largest update they've done, yet. Given that the previous ones have all been a decent size, I see no cause for alarm.

 

[HarryFlash]

I believe, if this update has taught us anything it's that magicnuts needs to plan how they release their future updates better.
After they've completed their initial planning and made an estimate on the amount of work required they should then make a call on if they should break their story into, 1 or more parts. While it's great getting a completed story arc. Waiting over a year is just bad project management in my opinion.
While I'm sure the Gomira update will be just as good as their earlier work. I think it would have been better managed if they had split the update in half and released a part 1 sometime around April to June. That way we'd be only waiting on the second half now rather then the full update.

 

[whichone]

I believe, if this update has taught us anything it's that magicnuts needs to plan how they release their future updates better.
After they've completed their initial planning and made an estimate on the amount of work required they should then make a call on if they should break their story into, 1 or more parts. While it's great getting a completed story arc. Waiting over a year is just bad project management in my opinion.
While I'm sure the Gomira update will be just as good as their earlier work. I think it would have been better managed if they had split the update in half and released a part 1 sometime around April to June. That way we'd be only waiting on the second half now rather then the full update.

Patrons chose to have updates done this way. Their opinion is obviously far more relevant and important, to the business, than that of pirates.
What you consider "bad project management", facts paint as being major events in their lives taking away large portions of the predicted available time - a new child & 2 operations will do that.

 

[HarryFlash]

Patrons chose to have updates done this way. Their opinion is obviously far more relevant and important, to the business, than that of pirates.
What you consider "bad project management", facts paint as being major events in their lives taking away large portions of the predicted available time - a new child & 2 operations will do that.

Hi whichone, I taught you put me on your ignore list. Anyway I still think breaking an extra large update into 2 large updates is a better system then just continuing on, over a year with just a single update.

 

[moskyx]

Development is not linear and they've been working on the 2 quests of this update at the same time. They also explained that while they were testing the completed work they found a couple of sections from the first quest that didn't fit the events and tone of the second. So had they broken this update into 2 minor updates, they would've needed to rework an already published work, which is never a nice solution - or just published a lower quality product they weren't happy with.

 

[elbo911]

Hi whichone, I taught you put me on your ignore list. Anyway I still think breaking an extra large update into 2 large updates is a better system then just continuing on, over a year with just a single update.

I still think the world would be a better place if there was only sausage with cheese in it. But hey, what can you do? And also, who besides me even cares?

 

[bingolebongo]

Patrons chose to have updates done this way.

I'm not really sure I agree here. When patreons were asked, I don't think anyone expected updates this long - least of all MagicNuts themselves. I voted for longer updates, but given the choice again, I'd probably vote for a shorter one if this is the alternative.

That's not bashing the developers – you know I'm on the same side of the argument in this thread and I've argued time and again that their reasons for the delays are reasonable. I just think that vote was made under circumstances that aren't 100 % valid for the discussion any longer.

 

[Porn_Jesus]

I'm not really sure I agree here. When patreons were asked, I don't think anyone expected updates this long - least of all MagicNuts themselves. I voted for longer updates, but given the choice again, I'd probably vote for a shorter one if this is the alternative.

That's not bashing the developers – you know I'm on the same side of the argument in this thread and I've argued time and again that their reasons for the delays are reasonable. I just think that vote was made under circumstances that aren't 100 % valid for the discussion any longer.

Longer updates + life changing events + risk of project gets abandoned for various reasons = you thought this will go smoothly?

If I had half of your optimism I would joyfully run through life, completely oblivious to everything but happy at the same time.

 

[whichone]

I'm not really sure I agree here. When patreons were asked, I don't think anyone expected updates this long - least of all MagicNuts themselves. I voted for longer updates, but given the choice again, I'd probably vote for a shorter one if this is the alternative.

That's not bashing the developers – you know I'm on the same side of the argument in this thread and I've argued time and again that their reasons for the delays are reasonable. I just think that vote was made under circumstances that aren't 100 % valid for the discussion any longer.

To be fair & correct, this is not "the alternative", it's an exception. There's a vast difference.

Hence referencing them having a new child & 2 separate operations. Those 3 events inevitably added considerable time to an update that was already projected to be the largest they've done yet, so would've naturally taken longer than previous updates.
Plus new child, plus 2 spells out of action.

Most rational people can understand why it's taken longer.

 

[ogapetape]

This Vs. Summertime Saga which will makes their update first lol

The race is on!

 

[FreelancerFL]

But with this speed, we might be Q3/4 of 2024. It better be a huge update...

And the next update I want to see unicorns and mermaids...

I just wanna smash the orc chick in the prison, is that too much to ask for?

 

[Deleted member 6820464]

I just wanna smash the orc chick in the prison, is that too much to ask for?

Well she already escaped, she is in the whorehouse...

Well you probably could go to the whorehouse to smash her.... in the next episode...

If that ever gets finished....

 

[Deleted member 6820464]

"With this speed" it went from being 91.5%, on 28th Dec, to being 92.2%, on 31st Dec.
That means it took 3 days for a 0.7% total increase.
There is 7.8% remaining. If it continues "with this speed", it would take circa 34 days.
Give it a couple of months, it should be close.

They stated a few times that this is the largest update they've done, yet. Given that the previous ones have all been a decent size, I see no cause for alarm.

Yeh I wasn't talking about 91.5 % on 28dec, I posted 91.5% like 2-3 weeks back... So that's a much slower progress...

 

[whichone]

I posted 91.5% like 2-3 weeks back...

You really did not.
Exactly 3 weeks ago, 10th Dec, it was 90.2%.

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5 days later, 15th Dec, it was 90.7%.
That's "2-3 weeks back". Today, it's 92.2%
2% total increase over the last 3 weeks, with 7.8% remaining.

Gives an estimate of 12 weeks from now, "with this speed".
Not Q3/4. That's a bit needlessly dramatic.

 

[Deleted member 6820464]

You really did not.
Exactly 3 weeks ago, 10th Dec, it was 90.2%.
5 days later, 15th Dec, it was 90.7%.
That's "2-3 weeks back". Today, it's 92.2%
2% total increase over the last 3 weeks, with 7.8% remaining.

Gives an estimate of 12 weeks from now, "with this speed".
Not Q3/4. That's a bit needlessly dramatic.

I hope you are right, it was my previous account where I posted, that some admin squandered again.

 

[whichone]

I hope you are right, it was my previous account where I posted, that some admin squandered again.

Just a rough ballpark mate.
Don't forget, testing can throw up quite a lot of additional work, so that could easily be extended, or shortened.
Consider it all pie in the sky, until it's actually here.

 

[Deleted member 6820464]

Just a rough ballpark mate.
Don't forget, testing can throw up quite a lot of additional work, so that could easily be extended, or shortened.
Consider it all pie in the sky, until it's actually here.

Yeh it's abandon until it's not. Then we get a few months of rest, and people start complaining about it again. I hope quicker. And I hope the next update will be a bit quicker...

 

[whichone]

Yeh it's abandon until it's not. Then we get a few months of rest, and people start complaining about it again. I hope quicker. And I hope the next update will be a bit quicker...

I think everyone hopes for the same, MagicNuts included!
To be fair, given the 3 major events they had, even with another child to take care of, Pistachio not being hospitalised twice & Chestnut also not needing time out to give birth, I think it's a fair to expect the next update to be quicker.