Ren'Py What a Legend! [v0.7.05] [MagicNuts]

[DanteRed]

But I digress from the scope of this page, which is talking about WaL. Look, I don't like the long wait between updates either. I get that it was what patrons voted at one time but honestly, I really feel that this model of releasing updates is not the way to go. That's just my opinion though, others are free to feel different.

What I like about these devs is that they are communicating almost every day, on their discord as well. So when they revealed that they're having another baby, I saw the writing on the wall and knew that this update will take longer than usual. I don't think many people realize what having a baby means. For the first few months, they can barely sleep right.

And I know that some people are upset that they are making over 7k per month. Yeah, about that. I'm not sure if those 7k are before or after Patreon takes their cut but with a newborn and another child in their care, a lot of that money will go on supporting the children. Diapers, baby strollers and other stuff costs a ton of money. So I can't fault them for not pausing their page. I'm pretty sure that for a month or two, they barely worked on the game.

But people, this game is and has always been free, unlike many other games. I understand writing your frustrations here, as that is also a function of a forum but please remember. These devs are people too, with their own worries, problems but also joys. I haven't seen the behavior of scammers or milkers, rather of two people that have limited time to work on the game.

 

[Profa101]

Start of the game when the MC leaves the brothel the game crashes. I got 4gigs of ram i5 2500 and using the compressed versions of the game. got any idea what causing this :/

 

[Profa101]

Are you using the

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compressed version? What about your GPU?
You might need to post your log file, for someone to see what's happening.

Yes , I am using the official compressed v0.6.02

 

[whichone]

Yes , I am using the official compressed v0.6.02

What I can gather from that, is that your onboard graphics can't deal with "GL 3.x is not supported".
AFAIK Open GL is usually installed on your system through your GPU driver. GL 3.x is kind of equivalent to Direct X 11.
IDK how old your PC is but, if it's old, it might be something to do with that.
Hopefully someone who knows this stuff can help you.

 

[hasslethehoff]

Not sure what people are whining about.

It's been 2 years and the game is no where near done.

 

[dgxsu]

It's been 2 years and the game is no where near done.

GAMES TAKE TIME TO DEVELOP!?!?!?!?! WHO COULD'VE EVER PREDICTED THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[KingsRaiden]

It's been 2 years and the game is no where near done.

If that's your standard you are going to be disappointed by many games here.

 

[Ozzfest]

Well, the game is that good, and most of their supporters understand that having a kid, and having to go to the hospital twice for some life saving care, tend to slow things down a bit.

If you call 2 years "a bit" you must be immortal.

 

[rdl130]

The game is not abandoned. To label it as such is factually incorrect: I'm working on it right now (well, I was until a few minutes ago when someone on our server said it's been tagged as abandoned here). We will release the 0.7 update when it's ready and bug-free. Until then (back to work).

 

[TheDevian]

If you call 2 years "a bit" you must be immortal.

I've only been around for about half a millennia.

Now my boss, she's old!

 

[shazba jnr]

WOW WOW WOW, lets be realistic here.

Did anybody else read this comment in the voice of a Skyrim guard?

Just me then…

 

[ScionDayne]

That's funny I remember saying the development pace on this was a joke and getting flamed to kingdom come for it.

All the "let him cook" fanboys in all these threads need a long hard reality check.

Completely agree but let them. Fan bois gonna fan. They can keep paying to wait. I don't know about you but generally if I'm going to wait for something I'm paying for then I better either be getting capital gains or dividends. They're brainwashed by the copium and dopamine withdrawals as they justify it in their mind why they keep putting in money but not getting faster updates.

But yeah let them keep hugging their fav character body pillows while the rest of us just come back when it's finally updated and play for free without a care in the world while they can sit here white knighting the forum for any potential attacks to the games honor.

 

[whichone]

lol the entitled tripe just doesn't end.

 

[Dr_Fog]

Imagine flaming developers of early access porn games because they're taking too long. They've found a way to make money while the entire tech industry is getting laid off around them. There are thousands of other games you could be playing while you wait, and no one is forcing you to pay anything. I don't pay for any porn period (in this economy?), but if you do, you are doing it to support the creators, NOT to access the game faster. People seem to think more money = faster development. Why the fuck would any indie developer, let alone a porn game developer CHOOSE to spend their money on releasing their game faster? When the game is finished, people don't have a reason to support them anymore unless they decide they like their next game too. Therefore, it makes sense that some of these games will likely never be finished, or at least not for a VERY long time. They are essentially live service porn games. Summertime Saga could keep going well into 2054 if DC decides he wants to keep making money. Be mad at the system, not the 1% of developers that have managed to eek out a living doing this. Relax and go play something else while you wait. There's an absolutely absurd amount of good games coming out right now anyways, how y'all have the time to wait around for something else is beyond me.

 

[meh1995]

It's been 2 years and the game is no where near done.

That's like half games here. It is not a justification, but rather a simple fact.

 

[shazba jnr]

Imagine flaming developers of early access porn games because they're taking too long. They've found a way to make money while the entire tech industry is getting laid off around them. There are thousands of other games you could be playing while you wait, and no one is forcing you to pay anything. I don't pay for any porn period (in this economy?), but if you do, you are doing it to support the creators, NOT to access the game faster. People seem to think more money = faster development. Why the fuck would any indie developer, let alone a porn game developer CHOOSE to spend their money on releasing their game faster? When the game is finished, people don't have a reason to support them anymore unless they decide they like their next game too. Therefore, it makes sense that some of these games will likely never be finished, or at least not for a VERY long time. They are essentially live service porn games. Summertime Saga could keep going well into 2054 if DC decides he wants to keep making money. Be mad at the system, not the 1% of developers that have managed to eek out a living doing this. Relax and go play something else while you wait. There's an absolutely absurd amount of good games coming out right now anyways, how y'all have the time to wait around for something else is beyond me.

The way you've describe it makes it seem more flame-worthy...

If a developer is clearly milking a game (Summertime Saga for example), of course people are gonna call it out (lucky for DC he has a rabid fanbase who will find where you live and kill your family if you dare speak ill of that game!). Calling it out won't do much for a lot of developers, but some of them will respond.

Is WaL guilty of the same behaviour? I don't honestly know. If it's a couple, and they've had a kid during the development period, then it's gonna impact development by fucking months! If you take the typical development time of the better titles here and add "fucking months" to that, you get where we're pretty much at right now with this game, so it's probably bordering on a legitimate extension of the typical development time.

But in the end, it's up to the subscribers to do something if they aren't happy, but if they're happy, then the developer's happy, then so be it. I definitely agree that the mindset of lot of subscribers isn't that they are paying for a game, it's that they are supporting a developer who makes games.

 

[tittyboy6]

how is this "abandoned" if the dev releases updates every week on patreon

 

[t4ewk]

how is this "abandoned" if the dev releases updates every week on patreon

Forum rules about time between official releases, and mostly nerds whining that they're not getting the game for free as fast as they want; like they think the abandoned tag is actually accomplishing anything.

 

[whichone]

I definitely agree that the mindset of lot of subscribers isn't that they are paying for a game, it's that they are supporting a developer who makes games.

That's exactly what they're all doing, irrespective of their mindset.
It's the literal definition of a patron, none of them are a customer purchasing a product.
There is no consumer law here, no-one is entitled to a refund if the product is faulty, they just have to wait for a bug-fix. Same boat if it never gets delivered. They did not purchase a product, so there is no valid claim for recompense if it doesn't.
If they're unhappy their only course of action is to withdraw their support.
The majority seem to remain happy.

 

[IvanGam]

how is this "abandoned" if the dev releases updates every week on patreon

No they don't, they post a "weekly report" every week. By that logic games like Offcuts are still not abandoned, because dev still promises to release new version "soon" and posts on their patreon. And that game didn't see an update for 5 years now.