Ren'Py What a Legend! [v0.7.05] [MagicNuts]

[moskyx]

Then don´t state it as a fact. Its just what the dev says. And you seem to believe him everything. Haha, ....don´t worry he prepared half a dozen excuses for the next update for you gullible patreons....

Sorry but i tend to not believe anything anymore this dev says after some big red flags like:
- Burner accounts defending and trying to calm down people
- banning anybody with critisism at their discord
- and the biggest red flag, after 15 months of development a user asked about the slow development and the devs answer was like "What? We are surprised that people think development is slow?!"........ Hehehe...... really... first time he heard about something like that after 15 months??? Come on....

Sorry, but this dev doesn´t seem honest to me. I was a fan of this dev before, but to ignore all these red flags and more you have to be on gullible levels i cant reach.

If this game would be a mainquest for the dev the updates would come in a 3-4 months cycle.
This game is only a sidequest for the devs, that pays more and more the longer he doesn´t touch it.

Why would anyone believe YOU? A user whose only contribution to the whole forum is to whine about 'milker devs' in this game thread?

You talk about 'burner accounts defending and trying to calm down people'. Well, name those accounts. That would be easy enough, right? When you do that, I'll name at least three accounts that only post in this thread (or at most in another couple of them but always with the same vitriol) always against devs. Those sure seem like burner accounts to me. Even yours looks like one at this point.

You talk about 'banning anybody with criticism at their discord'. As a discord mod myself, I can swear this is utterly false. You can't have any proof of that because that's simply not happening. No one has ever been banned from WaL's discord server for just expressing criticism. Laughing at devs and patrons is not criticism.

And your final 'red flag' is, again, absolute bullshit. Again, please show us that reaction from devs, and tell us why they shouldn't be surprised about people whining about slow development, when the daily progress charts they've been sharing in the last 4 years show exactly this - that the development is slow, and always has been.

 

[Xupuzulla]

Wait,moskyx is an actual discord mod of this game?
Now everything makes more sense

 

[moskyx]

Wait,moskyx is an actual discord mod of this game?
Now everything makes more sense

Never hid myself, there's no reason to. Others can't say the same, it would be fun to uncover the main accounts of some 'people' posting here

 

[werewolfking65]

Why would anyone believe YOU? A user whose only contribution to the whole forum is to whine about 'milker devs' in this game thread?

You talk about 'burner accounts defending and trying to calm down people'. Well, name those accounts. That would be easy enough, right? When you do that, I'll name at least three accounts that only post in this thread (or at most in another couple of them but always with the same vitriol) always against devs. Those sure seem like burner accounts to me. Even yours looks like one at this point.

You talk about 'banning anybody with criticism at their discord'. As a discord mod myself, I can swear this is utterly false. You can't have any proof of that because that's simply not happening. No one has ever been banned from WaL's discord server for just expressing criticism. Laughing at devs and patrons is not criticism.

And your final 'red flag' is, again, absolute bullshit. Again, please show us that reaction from devs, and tell us why they shouldn't be surprised about people whining about slow development, when the daily progress charts they've been sharing in the last 4 years show exactly this - that the development is slow, and always has been.

There’s slow development, and then there’s this. And yes I’m sure the dev is so incredibly stressed from getting money for literally updating a single image for 2 years with larger numbers, that said dev time has basically ground to a halt compared to the earlier updates, woe is him.

But you know what the main difference is between you and him? He at least gets paid lmao, you do it for free

 

[reees754]

Wait,moskyx is an actual discord mod of this game?
Now everything makes more sense

Oh, Dang! Haaaaaahahaaa...... oh boy, oh boy, oh boy. Yep i agree, his posts make a lot more sense now!

That is simply brilliant! You cant make this stuff up!

And hey,................imagine a discord with moskyx as mod?! WTF? Haahaha! Damn........ imagine what you could even mention there?!!

Its must be like 1984 over there.

Oh......man......had a good laugh here.

 

[len00]

For folks who are complaining and don't know what happened, the dev got a baby + he got a medical problem that lasted for a long time, this caused him to stay for a looong time to finish it, his live conditions currently is causing a lot of stress on him.

So much stress getting 7000 $ a month from patreon(right now when hes not updating the game), not updating the game for 20 months, I could somewhat sympathize with the dev cause maybe he's pissed he's not getting a maternity leave compared to a normal job (maybe his wife works and she gets it idk), this is not a 9-5 he doesn't have to get in his car drive to work, work for 8 hrs and drive back, even with health issues no updates in 20 months is just disrespectful towards his fanbase and feels bad for other hard working devs, I would gladly take even 1000 a month to get flamed online by randoms.

 

[B_st_cloud]

Lmfao, let me guess, you are one of those people that thought the Dominoes pizza tracker was legitimately showing order progress too right?

Wait it doesn't?!?! My world has been shaken.

 

[Nomerr]

Why would anyone believe YOU? A user whose only contribution to the whole forum is to whine about 'milker devs' in this game thread?

You talk about 'burner accounts defending and trying to calm down people'. Well, name those accounts. That would be easy enough, right? When you do that, I'll name at least three accounts that only post in this thread (or at most in another couple of them but always with the same vitriol) always against devs. Those sure seem like burner accounts to me. Even yours looks like one at this point.

You talk about 'banning anybody with criticism at their discord'. As a discord mod myself, I can swear this is utterly false. You can't have any proof of that because that's simply not happening. No one has ever been banned from WaL's discord server for just expressing criticism. Laughing at devs and patrons is not criticism.

And your final 'red flag' is, again, absolute bullshit. Again, please show us that reaction from devs, and tell us why they shouldn't be surprised about people whining about slow development, when the daily progress charts they've been sharing in the last 4 years show exactly this - that the development is slow, and always has been.

You literally proved his point. Also sucking devs dick ain't gonna help you brah, if people were right about whining then you better stfu and listen. I may understand if they were wrong but they are right. Keep suck that shit.

 

[moskyx]

You literally proved his point. Also sucking devs dick ain't gonna help you brah, if people were right about whining then you better stfu and listen. I may understand if they were wrong but they are right. Keep suck that shit.

The logic is strong in this one xD

 

[bratkoratko]

Why would anyone believe YOU? A user whose only contribution to the whole forum is to whine about 'milker devs' in this game thread?

You talk about 'burner accounts defending and trying to calm down people'. Well, name those accounts. That would be easy enough, right? When you do that, I'll name at least three accounts that only post in this thread (or at most in another couple of them but always with the same vitriol) always against devs. Those sure seem like burner accounts to me. Even yours looks like one at this point.

You talk about 'banning anybody with criticism at their discord'. As a discord mod myself, I can swear this is utterly false. You can't have any proof of that because that's simply not happening. No one has ever been banned from WaL's discord server for just expressing criticism. Laughing at devs and patrons is not criticism.

And your final 'red flag' is, again, absolute bullshit. Again, please show us that reaction from devs, and tell us why they shouldn't be surprised about people whining about slow development, when the daily progress charts they've been sharing in the last 4 years show exactly this - that the development is slow, and always has been.

not only a discord mod but a discord mod for a porn game, wow is it even possible to go lower

 

[bratkoratko]

guys dont blame authors for being lazy milkers, blame the patreon tards who are paying almost 2 years for a development table chart lol
if opportunity like this came to me i would do it as well not gonna lie

 

[ogapetape]

Wait,moskyx is an actual discord mod of this game?
Now everything makes more sense

Holy shit it makes so much sense now. Literal discord mod energy.

 

[reees754]

Holy shit it makes so much sense now. Literal discord mod energy.

Hahaha! Can you imagine the "balanced" discussions on the discord when HE is the mod? It´s unreal! Had a good laugh though.

Xupuzulla has my vote for the post of the year, it should be pinned or kept as a Signature.

 

[FreelancerFL]

Wait. Are you serious? You do know that this coming update is Gomira, right? The orc girl.

If we actually get the update you mean

 

[FreelancerFL]

its beefy update i think.

2 years worth of content beefy? I doubt it

 

[len00]

What happened to the thread while I was away holy shit

One of the biggest projects on the platform is getting dragged on/abandoned and people are rioting.
Come on, pick up your pitchforks! (｀∀´)Ψ

 

[moskyx]

I am amazed someone at last respectfully said his opinion without spreading hate, I wish more like you exist in this thread, I will not go a head and debate about if money coming from porn games are foul or not, this is a very controversial point, because saying that porn causes addiction for small amount of people so it's fine, is like saying small amount of people get addicted to weed so selling it is fine, what cases small harm is still harmful.

But the dev mentioned in his discord before that he hides the fact he developing this game from everyone around him, and in taxes, he registered it as remote office job, and he says the same to anyone asking him about his job, which means he maybe seeing it shameful, and yah you got a very good point here, not having insurance is a big pain in the butt, and will cause him to pay a lot for any medical condition he have.

Just to clarify, he stated that they hasn't told their relatives about the exact nature of this job, only that they are doing remote job (devs are a married couple). Tax-wise, he is a freelance programmer as there's not a 'lewd games developer' section in Spanish tax system and that one is the most accurate (you can lie your friends but it wouldn't be smart to lie tax officers). As they are self-employed, each one of them are forced to pay around 300 bucks per month (at least) to the Spanish National Healthcare system so they don't need to pay hospital bills but don't have other benefits like paid leaves. All in all, as it has been said lots of times, they are earning above average salaries thanks to this game but they are nowhere near the point of getting rich with it. Ironically enough, releasing updates more often would boost their income, as I'm sure all these fine lads you met today in this forum wish.

 

[JoSmiHnTh]

Just to clarify, he stated that they hasn't told their relatives about the exact nature of this job, only that they are doing remote job (devs are a married couple). Tax-wise, he is a freelance programmer as there's not a 'lewd games developer' section in Spanish tax system and that one is the most accurate (you can lie your friends but it wouldn't be smart to lie tax officers). As they are self-employed, each one of them are forced to pay around 300 bucks per month (at least) to the Spanish National Healthcare system so they don't need to pay hospital bills but don't have other benefits like paid leaves. All in all, as it has been said lots of times, they are earning above average salaries thanks to this game but they are nowhere near the point of getting rich with it. Ironically enough, releasing updates more often would boost their income, as I'm sure all these fine lads you met today in this forum wish.

Well, then what explains their slow pacing other than lack of motivation? because my point was the the possibility they have lack of motivation because all the reasons I listed.

 

[Kirel]

They also have two children, one of which is less than two years old, and Pistachio had not one but two hip surgeries to deal with. So it's been a lot of IRL issues taking away from dev time. I'm not disputing it's taken them a long time to get v0.7 out, and I'm sure the devs would agree with me, but the idea that they're just being lazy or milking their patrons and getting rich is utter nonsense.

 

[moskyx]

Well, then what explains their slow pacing other than lack of motivation? because my point was the the possibility they have lack of motivation because all the reasons I listed.

Bad planning, for one. Then they had their second kid back in October 2022, at the beginning of this development cycle, which slowed them down for many months. And Pistachio had to undergo 2 hip surgeries that also meant taking some time off. I don't think lack of motivation is an issue here. Considering the estimated amount of content promised, plus all those setbacks, the actual pace is very similar to previous updates.