moskyx

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This is 3 lines of text in a complex scene in WaL:

Python:
    show abusmall ewide sangry
    show pov enarrow hfneu2 hbneu2 msmile bangry scrazyhair
    show rose basemessy xwings xhornsnude enarrow bangryn msmile at s_left:
        xalign -0.5 alpha 1
    $ renpy.music.set_volume(0.8, channel='sfx4')
    play sfx4 "audio/magicdemon2.ogg" fadein 0.5
    abu "WHHHHHAAAAAAATTTTTTT?!" with vpunch
    show rose eneu bupn
    show pov hfreach eclosed bup at m_left with moveinleft:
        xalign 0.3 xzoom -1.0
    show pov hfneu2 eneudown
    show abusmall at t_right with moveoutleft:
        xalign 1.5 xzoom -1.0
    show pov hfneu1 hbneu1 bsad mneu
    show abusmall at t_right with quickdissolve:
        xzoom 1.0 xalign 1.5
    show rose bsadn
    show abusmall eangry sangry
    with quickdissolve
    pov "Ah, Rose, I was worried you wouldn't come."
    show rose ewide bupn mneu
    show pov ewideb bup mcry
    show abusmall eangry
    abu "WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!" with vpunch
And that's basically the same for every piece of dialog. That's what they call 'posing'. This coding structure you see above needs to be done for every single dialog line in the game (maybe on a different scale, but still), and then you need to replay the scene taking extra care to detect if every single one of those short orders works as intended and make actual sense. Of course, if you edit the dialog lines, all those orders need to be adjusted too, and then checked once again.

Creating a minigame or a turn-based combat system surely takes longer than 'posing' this scene, but it's usually a one-time thing and then all you'd need to do is add a 'call screen' line and maybe adjust the variables involved before that 'call' statement. There, a bug can only exist within the minigame's core, and it would be easily detected as it would crash the game altogether or make the minigame not produce the expected result (it may take several days to fix, sure, but again it would be a one-time thing and you'll then have your minigame's code all fine and dandy for every time you'd want to use it in-game again). Taking care of different variables and paths is complex too, but that's just a matter of carefully noting down every possible combination and not messing with the variables' names; again, bugs would be easily detected and way easier to fix than those in minigames. Having a myriad of those variables and paths is probably similar to what posing means for WaL in terms of complexity, except you only check those variables every once in a while, after a significant interaction, while posing is needed for every single dialog line.
 

DegenDesu

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real-life baby making SEEEEEGGSS for h-scene ideas let's gooooo UUUOOOOGGHH
Takeshi SEEEEGGGSS UOOOOGGHH (4).png

that seems to be two h-game devs now that I've seen who does that, I wonder if there is more :KEK:
 
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Karl Speidel

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First, you are assuming the next update will release this year, that's a bold claim.
Second, there is a life cycle to scams, many of us who have been around these types of forums know it well. Once a game starts getting 1+ year long updates its not long before it's abandoned in all but name (gotta keep those shekels flowing). If we even got a Holly update it will likely be longer than 2 years if happens at all; late 2027 to 28 would be my earliest guess.
Its funny how you specified shekels
 

Karl Speidel

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truly being a weg dev is the most dangerous job in existence.
Edit: On the subject of hip surgery, one of my aunts 50+ recently fell and shattered her hip, 1 week in the hospital, operated on, 1 week recovery and then 1 month of therapy, if an adult woman can recover in 2 months the update should already be out.
100% On this.
 

Karl Speidel

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It's a green update, you know those climate idiots, they wanted everything green, so now it takes forever. Just like those rising sea levels...
If there is somekind of reference,I dont get it. Not up to date on the green madness,unless your talking about Orks and Dakka.
 

Karl Speidel

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so im not the only one... for the past few weeks ive had my comments and reviews deleted, without any notification from admins or mods. Wtf? Talk about power-abuse. They are probably discord mods as well. Smh
(This comment will def be deleted as well)
Well discord servers tend to be echo chambers where the devs feed their narcissism or escape from rightful criticism,I wouldn't be making hopes you can convince them of anything.
 

Xupuzulla

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so im not the only one... for the past few weeks ive had my comments and reviews deleted, without any notification from admins or mods. Wtf? Talk about power-abuse. They are probably discord mods as well. Smh
(This comment will def be deleted as well)
Alot of deleting recently,what are they are trying to hide i wonder:unsure::LOL:
This post will be gone in 3,2,1....
 
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