Ren'Py What a Legend! [v0.7.05] [MagicNuts]

[Solomon Grundy]

I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of people who complain here have never been anywhere near MagicNuts' Patreon page...

Tlaero

If I could give you 100 thumbs up for this post, I would.

 

[bingolebongo]

I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of people who complain here have never been anywhere near MagicNuts' Patreon page...

Tlaero

Plus the devs routinely offer to refund people who are unhappy with any extra length the update takes.

 

[Sasanid]

I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of people who complain here have never been anywhere near MagicNuts' Patreon page...

Tlaero

Exactly what I was going to post. Congratulated MagicNuts in private on their Patreon page for their last update, was expecting a bot reply but nope, discussed a few things, overall just great people who loves what they do, and it shows in the quality of their games.

Bitches who complain about a quality, free game, because it takes too long between updates, damn, get the fuck out of here.

 

[robbiej691]

the quality of this game is what sets it apart, that takes time. its the same with everything that you can buy. you want to lower the quality, reduce the time to manufacture. magicnuts, do not rush this, you and your wife have made a rolex of a game. keep your pride and passion visible in your efforts

 

[Oriandu]

I just don't get all the hate, Magicnuts is one of the most hardworking devs team in the business that produces quality content consistently. I was proud to be able to support them and not just the peanut tier either, regrettably personal problems prevented me from supporting and funding the game further or I would still be a Patreon. This game is simply the best hand drawn game in the adult scene, period and Magicnuts is a great dev. I honestly don't get all the vitriol specially from people that has never supported. Ludicrous.

The hate is likely due in part to people like Icstor, DarkCookie, and UberPie. Devs who used to make consistent updates that began to slow down as they made more and more money. We're a couple of weeks shy of it having been seven months since the last update of What a Legend, people are bound to become impatient and there exists tons of examples of devs who started to take advantage of the patreon system after a year or so of regular updates. No patreon developer is above reproach.

 

[moskyx]

The hate is likely due in part to people like Icstor, DarkCookie, and UberPie. Devs who used to make consistent updates that began to slow down as they made more and more money. We're a couple of weeks shy of it having been seven months since the last update of What a Legend, people are bound to become impatient and there exists tons of examples of devs who started to take advantage of the patreon system after a year or so of regular updates. No patreon developer is above reproach.

I get what you mean, but the whole mental process behind that kind of behavior you're describing is just silly and extremely unfair, especially coming from pirate forum users. First, the milking issue. Nobody is forcing patrons to keep paying a monthly fee when there's nothing new to download, yet they freely choose to keep supporting the dev; this can only mean they are happy with the way dev is doing things and are satisfied enough with what they're getting in exchange (or have gotten in the past). So not really a reason to complain when you personally aren't paying a dime: if anything, complaining only shows your selfishness for not being able to play for free something you like at the pace you'd like to. Now, of course there are devs who lie to their patrons. That's totally unacceptable and unprofessional, and it's fine to warn potential patrons of what are they risking if they choose to still support that dev. But it's not fair to use those blatant cases to raise doubts about every other dev. That's a toxic attitude.

Then, leaving aside those obvious milkers that actually exist (and are way less numerous than you may believe just from reading these forums). From a general perspective, why a honest dev can't take advantage of their past work and earn some money with it? Why can't they try to monetize their own work the way they want? Are they less honest for deciding not to work 15 hours a day just to push the new update a couple of weeks earlier? Why can't they enjoy a comfortable schedule? I just don't see people shitting at Lamborghini for making just a few cars per year and selling them clearly overpriced when other brands can sell millions of units per year: no one goes to the Lamborghini's factory to tell them 'hey guys, your cars are amazing but you should produce more of them and sell them way cheaper, you lazy milkers!' You don't even see such criticism on the internet, it just doesn't happen: you like their cars, you just assume they are not made for you, you just walk away. But, for some reason, shitting on game development is fair game.

Now, coming to this particular case, I can't think of any valid reason to criticize Magicnuts. They offer their game totally free just one day after releasing it for patrons, and their 7 months development time seems reasonable considering the amount and quality of those updates: you can't take the last update and honestly say that you don't believe the only artist in the team has worked 7 days per week during at least 3 months, as they said she did. It's obvious they have worked all that time, they have not delivered a piano simulator. They are transparent and communicative over the whole development process. I do want their game to be updated more frequently, but it seems they just can't do it faster if they want to keep this level of quality, which we all want too. So I just patiently wait.

edit- typos

 

[Kenboner]

pretty good art

 

[pigg]

Almost two years... Do we know how much of the story is complete?

 

[Porn_Jesus]

Almost two years... Do we know how much of the story is complete?

I would say maybe 33 %, probably less. I mean... if you look on the map and compare it to what you can see and how much of it we can visit... there's still quite some stuff to do.^^

This is not meant as a critique to the devs. They surely do what they can with the available people around but if you hope for a "soon to be finished" miracle you won't get that. :/

 

[Balu04]

Almost two years... Do we know how much of the story is complete?

I'd rather say less than 20%. We're in the old capital, and there are 5 major locations, that are on land, and than there is Floa town, Rum town, Festive isles.
This isn't taking into account the fact that we haven't unlocked every location in the Old capital. So prob. more like 15% of the main story is complete at this point, if I'm right.

 

[armion82]

Almost two years... Do we know how much of the story is complete?

I will make a wild guess-between 15% and 30%.

 

[reees754]

............... the year is 2032 ........... and magicnuts leaves the long awaited message:

"Dear friends, thank you for your decade long support. Next month we are releasing the final and complete version of WaL for the Holidays.
It´s been an amazing journey (that also made us very wealthy.... well with a 3-month update rate we would have become very very rich, but our health was more important).
We never expected that this game will become the most popular erotic game and so beloved as it did. It broke even barriers into mainstream.
People naming it the "Witcher 3" of erotic games is really an honor to us.
As you know we sold the filming rights for WaL a couple of years ago and we can tell you that the first season of the WaL-series is coming to Netflix and Adult-Netflix next year with the humor and style everybody loves and we think it´ll end better than Game of Thrones.

PS.: After the series goes through the roof, we plan to sue Netflix for a couple hundred millions so in the the end we´ll become rich anyways....... ;-)"

 

[Ranma]

............... the year is 2032 ........... and magicnuts leaves the long awaited message:

"Dear friends, thank you for your decade long support. Next month we are releasing the final and complete version of WaL for the Holidays.
It´s been an amazing journey (that also made us very wealthy.... well with a 3-month update rate we would have become very very rich, but our health was more important).
We never expected that this game will become the most popular erotic game and so beloved as it did. It broke even barriers into mainstream.
People naming it the "Witcher 3" of erotic games is really an honor to us.
As you know we sold the filming rights for WaL a couple of years ago and we can tell you that the first season of the WaL-series is coming to Netflix and Adult-Netflix next year with the humor and style everybody loves and we think it´ll end better than Game of Thrones.

PS.: After the series goes through the roof, we plan to sue Netflix for a couple hundred millions so in the the end we´ll become rich anyways....... ;-)"

 

[AnotherAnon9999]

Man this game is so well made, tested it only recently. Most Erotic VN make you jump through mini-games and annoying grinds and have a meh story. They feel like enduring light torture with sex scenes as reward.
This on the other hand is really well made, after a while I didn't even care for the sex scenes (they are still great tho!) I've just spent the last 4 hours glued to this game, because I was too invested in the story to stop. I usually just lurk here but I just had to make a post appreciating this game.

Also I love the art style, there was clearly a lot of work involved.
Kinda sad that I might have to wait half a year between updates, but it's not like I play VN often an I am already used to checking this forum or the games Patreon page for any updates, so I am not really bothered by it.

 

[RabbitHole69]

This is actually the one game where I don't mind waiting. That's because so far the devs have delivered superb updates. The last update took quite a while as well but was a total banger. And I guess the other reason is because I have trained my body and soul while waiting for an update for Bones Tales Manor, Ecchi Sensei, Innocent Witches and other games lol.

 

[DEVIL18]

This is actually the one game where I don't mind waiting. That's because so far the devs have delivered superb updates. The last update took quite a while as well but was a total banger. And I guess the other reason is because I have trained my body and soul while waiting for an update for Bones Tales Manor, Ecchi Sensei, Innocent Witches and other games lol.

It gets hard for me after 4-5 months
Than i constantly check their patreon and discord and now im here lol

 

[Jamsalad]

7 months between updates and these guys keep throwing money at fool like these, sts and radiant KEKW

 

[St. Nix]

7 months between updates and these guys keep throwing money at fool like these, sts and radiant KEKW

The one who doesn't throwing money is always the loudest one. Idk why.

 

[Oriandu]

This is actually the one game where I don't mind waiting. That's because so far the devs have delivered superb updates. The last update took quite a while as well but was a total banger. And I guess the other reason is because I have trained my body and soul while waiting for an update for Bones Tales Manor, Ecchi Sensei, Innocent Witches and other games lol.

Shit, waiting for anything in Innocent Witches is tantamount to ascetic training. Innocent Witches has had exactly one scene people asked for in the past two years, and only has three sex scenes after nearly six. Development for the next update for What A Legend! is getting a little long in the tooth, but it's nowhere near as bad as the worst of the worst offenders so far.

Y'all see the last update for Being a DIK? They update something like twice a year and they wasted a full update on a stand alone chapter for a character that only a few people even like, let alone want to see content for. And to make matters worse it was ten minutes long which is a big departure from their usually meaty update. Until WAL does something like that, there's nothing to worry about.

 

[Xhil]

Shit, waiting for anything in Innocent Witches is tantamount to ascetic training. Innocent Witches has had exactly one scene people asked for in the past two years, and only has three sex scenes after nearly six. Development for the next update for What A Legend! is getting a little long in the tooth, but it's nowhere near as bad as the worst of the worst offenders so far.

Y'all see the last update for Being a DIK? They update something like twice a year and they wasted a full update on a stand alone chapter for a character that only a few people even like, let alone want to see content for. And to make matters worse it was ten minutes long which is a big departure from their usually meaty update. Until WAL does something like that, there's nothing to worry about.

yea .. why would you look up if you can look down?..