What do you feel about open relationships in games. (Not NTR)

[Vollezar]

Depends on the story and the characters, I suppose. Personally not my thing as is harem type of thing.

 

[Madlust]

Well, in my opinion open relationships are a thing, but it´s difficult to get the right feeling in a game. I mean, you have to see that the relation is a real open relationship, which means that both know what it means and are totally equal. So to see that feeling in a game maybe a good way, or one of them, to do it is to alternate the "mc" in both of the persons implied. Of course both characters without any doudt about the open relationship. But this conflicts directly with the player who controls the character if he doesn´t see or accept the term open relationships well, breaking the immersion of the story to that player.

 

[Gander Gamedev]

In my opinion, cheating partners should not be promoted in games. But in the era of popular incest, somehow I am not surprised.
Technically, it should be that the more partners you have, the less you can do with each of them; there are fewer scenes, less bond, less interactions, less devotion, choices etc.

The exception is, of course, harem games. And by default, polyamorous games.

 

[Adabelitoo]

Not even slightly. Now if I demanded that I had the right fuck whatever I wanted, while the girl is exclusive to me, that would make me a hypocrite. If I expected a digital character to, that is not hypocrisy, it's a fantasy. You need to get through your head that you can't offend or marginalize digital avatars. There will be no jealous avatars. It's ok to be selfish in these games. There's no digital tumbler in MilfyCity to cancel you.

Sure, you could say that it isn't about hypocrisy because it's just a game but people applies that logic of "the man fucking multiples girls is the coolest guy while the woman fucking multiples man is a cheap whore" in waaay more places than just porn games. It's not about marginalizing digital characters, is about not reflecting and empowering the hypocrisy we see in real life.

Plus, reflecting and empowering that hypocrisy constantly in almost all games puts the idea of "20+ pussies exclusively for the MC" as a standar, thus incresing the selfishness of those players whenever they see a woman and increasing the hate towards a game when the game doesn't want to play by those fake rules created by the standard.

 

[tanstaafl]

Sure, you could say that it isn't about hypocrisy because it's just a game but people applies that logic of "the man fucking multiples girls is the coolest guy while the woman fucking multiples man is a cheap whore" in waaay more places than just porn games. It's not about marginalizing digital characters, is about not reflecting and empowering the hypocrisy we see in real life.

Plus, reflecting and empowering that hypocrisy constantly in almost all games puts the idea of "20+ pussies exclusively for the MC" as a standar, thus incresing the selfishness of those players whenever they see a woman and increasing the hate towards a game when the game doesn't want to play by those fake rules created by the standard.

I don't know about you, but I'm a 45 year old man with 2 kids and 3 grandkids. These games don't affect me in real life at all. I have never cheated on my wife, nor do I want a harem. But the fantasy of one is nice sometimes. An escape from what is normal and real can be exciting. The fact that you seem to think these fantasies transfer from one to the other is pretty disturbing to me though, perhaps you should do some self-reflection?

 

[215303j]

Technically, it should be that the more partners you have, the less you can do with each of them; there are fewer scenes, less bond, less interactions, less devotion, choices etc.

Somehow a lot of devs forget this but it's definately true!

An escape from what is normal and real can be exciting. The fact that you seem to think these fantasies transfer from one to the other is pretty disturbing to me though, perhaps you should do some self-reflection?

In my opinion, to truly enjoy a story, one must identify in some way with the story and the MC.
Or, alternatively, accept the story as just plain entertainment and enjoy the fireworks, but in my opinion that takes second place.

But in order to be able to identify with the MC, you must also in some way identify with his morals. So if the game is about sharing, no way around that, then there will be people who can't identify with that. (as an aside, it is also interesting how many people can apparently identify with the MC of DMD but that's off-topic) Those people may still play the game for the sex scenes but then from an outsider perspective. But in my opinion the big advantage of a VN over any other media (literature, movie etc) is that the player has choices, e.g. to pursue an open relationship at all, or not. Or, who the LI can fuck and who not.

 

[tanstaafl]

Somehow a lot of devs forget this but it's definately true!



In my opinion, to truly enjoy a story, one must identify in some way with the story and the MC.
Or, alternatively, accept the story as just plain entertainment and enjoy the fireworks, but in my opinion that takes second place.

But in order to be able to identify with the MC, you must also in some way identify with his morals. So if the game is about sharing, no way around that, then there will be people who can't identify with that. (as an aside, it is also interesting how many people can apparently identify with the MC of DMD but that's off-topic) Those people may still play the game for the sex scenes but then from an outsider perspective. But in my opinion the big advantage of a VN over any other media (literature, movie etc) is that the player has choices, e.g. to pursue an open relationship at all, or not. Or, who the LI can fuck and who not.

Does everyone on this sight pretend that other genres don't exist? Did everyone on earth suddenly become Walter White? The Joker? Some of you sound like those guys from the 60s screaming that rock music would 'destroy the fabric of this nation!' It's silly.

No, you don't have to identify with the people in these games. But yes, there are certain things that everyone finds fundamentally wrong, but understand that not everyone will have those same opinions and that's just fine. Things like NTR, or sharing, or cheating, etc. These things are deep within ourselves and we can't change that. I for instance truly abhor rape in games like these, it's an instant delete for me. This is because I find rape repugnant. But on the flip side of that, I enjoy harem games because it's a fun fantasy, despite me not wanting one in real life. The hassle would be enormous and I love my wife.

 

[xovero]

Depends on the story, and the participants, i would for example be fine with a "open relationship" where the LI sleeps with another woman and i don't at all, I would also be fine with FFM, and i would love it if its a Story where all 3 due to whatever what happens are all into each other. I wouldn't be fine with it being random people at all. And well as for another guy though? Nope, the only way i could ever see that work out is if its a reverse harem with a female MC. I know that a mob will come out now and burn me at a stake, and cry about whatever else, too bad that i don't care

 

[215303j]

No, you don't have to identify with the people in these games. But yes, there are certain things that everyone finds fundamentally wrong, but understand that not everyone will have those same opinions and that's just fine.

Sounds like you just agreed with me...

 

[Adabelitoo]

I don't know about you, but I'm a 45 year old man with 2 kids and 3 grandkids. These games don't affect me in real life at all. I have never cheated on my wife, nor do I want a harem. But the fantasy of one is nice sometimes. An escape from what is normal and real can be exciting. The fact that you seem to think these fantasies transfer from one to the other is pretty disturbing to me though, perhaps you should do some self-reflection?

Dude, if you really have been alive for 45 years and you still didn't noticed the sexism in this society then my guess must be that you and your whole family live under a rock or heaven exists and has a good wi-fi connection.

I never said that fantasies will transfer to real life, but you, me and everyone reading this have no idea of how much we do get influenced by games, music, movies, TV series and media as a general in our regular lifes without noticing it. The fact that you as a father don't understand that what your kids saw in TV back then affects how they are today is kinda worrying honestly.

Plus, I didn't want to point out the elephant in the room because the thread isn't about that but since you're talking about self-reflection then maybe you need some. A lot of the people playing this games and consuming porn in general are kids and tennager with no real experience of what sex and love is, and some of them will grow up thinking and expecting that this is how sex should be and will be.

 

[tanstaafl]

Sounds like you just agreed with me...

Partiallly. I do disagree with the bit where you said:

But in order to be able to identify with the MC, you must also in some way identify with his morals.

For instance, Ecchi Sensai. I don't identify with that MC at all nor do I identify with the massive harem that falls all over themselves for him. But, some of the scenes are fun so I play the game.

 

[tanstaafl]

Dude, if you really have been alive for 45 years and you still didn't noticed the sexism in this society then my guess must be that you and your whole family live under a rock or heaven exists and has a good wi-fi connection.

I never said that fantasies will transfer to real life, but you, me and everyone reading this have no idea of how much we do get influenced by games, music, movies, TV series and media as a general in our regular lifes without noticing it. The fact that you as a father don't understand that what your kids saw in TV back then affects how they are today is kinda worrying honestly.

Plus, I didn't want to point out the elephant in the room because the thread isn't about that but since you're talking about self-reflection then maybe you need some. A lot of the people playing this games and consuming porn in general are kids and tennager with no real experience of what sex and love is, and some of them will grow up thinking and expecting that this is how sex should be and will be.

I honestly couldn't disagree with you more. Fucked up porn has existed forever. There has never been an issue with people growing up thinking what they see in that is real, aside from perhaps sociopaths, but they're screwed anyway.

And I have a 24-year-old daughter and two granddaughters. Don't talk to me about not seeing the sexism in the world, I've watched my wife deal with it for over two decades. You, on the other hand, have serious issues if you think a fantasy land porn game affects the real world at all.

You should stop taking games so seriously and relax.

 

[215303j]

Partiallly. I do disagree with the bit where you said:

For instance, Ecchi Sensai. I don't identify with that MC at all nor do I identify with the massive harem that falls all over themselves for him. But, some of the scenes are fun so I play the game.

Yes, that's the second category:

Or, alternatively, accept the story as just plain entertainment and enjoy the fireworks, but in my opinion that takes second place.

Still I think that's inferior to a story where you can identify with the MC.

How many pure action movies have won an Oscar?

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[Adabelitoo]

I honestly couldn't disagree with you more. Fucked up porn has existed forever. There has never been an issue with people growing up thinking what they see in that is real, aside from perhaps sociopaths, but they're screwed anyway.

And I have a 24-year-old daughter and two granddaughters. Don't talk to me about not seeing the sexism in the world, I've watched my wife deal with it for over two decades. You, on the other hand, have serious issues if you think a fantasy land porn game affects the real world at all.

You should stop taking games so seriously and relax.

Dude, if you have 45 then when you were a kid-teenager having acces to porn was way harder and limited than today, and casually talking with male friends about sex was impossible, not even thinking about casually talking with female friends. In this generation, getting acces to porn is way more easier no matter how many "parental controls" you can implement. Don't use your 45 yo card to say that you understand how much this affect people growing because I'm 26. I grew with this generation, I know people affected by this, I see how it affected people of my age everyday in social media (and day-to-day life before quarentine started).

If you really don't see how fantasy affects our society (not even porn fantasy, fantasy as a general does it) think about the classic story of the boy who loves a girl and the girl says no but then the boy insist and insis and insist until the girl suddenly realize how much the boy loves her and she says yes. That happens IRL too. I had two cousins (now 16 and 20) thinking that a girl will see a boy insisting as remarkable or romantic when in reality it's creepy and harrasing, and they had problems understanding that no means no.

And bringing things back to porn games, I said that thinking, expecting and demanding that all the pussies must be exclusive to the MC is hypocrital (and stupid if I may add). A lot of people get mad if a girl cheats on them while the MC cheated on her like 10 times already. It isn't hypocrital if the girls never cheat on him and patiently wait for him, it's hypocrital when the players thinks that it was unfair to them and think that they have the right to demand changes and start throwing shit at the game.

 

[tanstaafl]

Dude, if you have 45 then when you were a kid-teenager having acces to porn was way harder and limited than today, and casually talking with male friends about sex was impossible, not even thinking about casually talking with female friends. In this generation, getting acces to porn is way more easier no matter how many "parental controls" you can implement. Don't use your 45 yo card to say that you understand how much this affect people growing because I'm 26. I grew with this generation, I know people affected by this, I see how it affected people of my age everyday in social media (and day-to-day life before quarentine started).

If you really don't see how fantasy affects our society (not even porn fantasy, fantasy as a general does it) think about the classic story of the boy who loves a girl and the girl says no but then the boy insist and insis and insist until the girl suddenly realize how much the boy loves her and she says yes. That happens IRL too. I had two cousins (now 16 and 20) thinking that a girl will see a boy insisting as remarkable or romantic when in reality it's creepy and harrasing, and they had problems understanding that no means no.

And bringing things back to porn games, I said that thinking, expecting and demanding that all the pussies must be exclusive to the MC is hypocrital (and stupid if I may add). A lot of people get mad if a girl cheats on them while the MC cheated on her like 10 times already. It isn't hypocrital if the girls never cheat on him and patiently wait for him, it's hypocrital when the players thinks that it was unfair to them and think that they have the right to demand changes and start throwing shit at the game.

I think you may be surprised how easy porn was to access back in the 80s. Sure, no web sites, but still pretty easy to get. Hell, I remember the first porn I watched as an early teen. I found it in my dad's stash. It was called 2002 a Sex Odyssey. It was hilariously bad, but still...I was young and it was porn, so, woohoo!

And you are way too serious for your own good. Just relax, enjoy the games, go outside your comfort zone. It's okay, no one is going to go raping people because they were corrupted by Being a DIK anytime soon.

 

[tanstaafl]

How many pure action movies have won an Oscar?

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How many movies that have won a best picture award have made a billion at the box office?

 

[Adabelitoo]

I think you may be surprised how easy porn was to access back in the 80s. Sure, no web sites, but still pretty easy to get. Hell, I remember the first porn I watched as an early teen. I found it in my dad's stash. It was called 2001 a Porn Odyssey. It was hilariously bad, but still...I was young and it was porn, so, woohoo!

And you are way too serious for your own good. Just relax, enjoy the games, go outside your comfort zone. It's okay, no one is going to go raping people because they were corrupted by Being a DIK anytime soon.

Sure, when you as an early teen used your dad stash of CDs and second hand used porn magazines while keeping it a secret from everyone and feeling as the most rebellious man on Earth, when I was a teenager my friends and are were recommending porn pages to each other on facebook. You're rigth, it's completely similar.

The fact that you jump from porn games to rape IRL is the living proof of by how much you're missing the point here, but you made me remember that that's just how the things are and will be. You grew up being affected by media in ways you never noticed and now you accept and naturalize a lot of things that would made your 24 yo daughter roll their eyes and the only reason why she wouldn't call you an asshole is to avoid conflict in the same way I do with my parents. A lof of things that you think are okay, are not okay for today's generation. In the exact same way, a lof of the thing that I see as acceptable and natural will make me look as a caveman for future generation. The reason why you not only don't think about the hypocrisy but also go off-topic talking about real life and fantasies must be due to how much your generation was missing and naturalizing back them.

If a wife (that according to you had to deal with sexism for two decades), a 24yo daughter and two granddaughters didn't allow you to think more than what your generation did, then there is no point to continue this conversation so I won't reply anymore.

 

[aattss]

I'd be open to a porn game with open relationships. It's really a matter of taste, where some people get squicked out by the idea that a girl has sex with other people or doesn't have her live revolve around him, some people find that particularly arousing, and some people don't care.

Btw porn with unhealthy sexual relationships/behaviors have as much influence on society as GTA or porn with scat, which is to say it doesn't.

 

[tanstaafl]

Sure, when you as an early teen used your dad stash of CDs and second hand used porn magazines while keeping it a secret from everyone and feeling as the most rebellious man on Earth, when I was a teenager my friends and are were recommending porn pages to each other on facebook. You're rigth, it's completely similar.

HAHAHAHAHA, omg, you need to stop believing the movies you see, man. We had a full blown porn exchange at school. You really are clueless, aren't you?

The fact that you jump from porn games to rape IRL is the living proof of by how much you're missing the point here, but you made me remember that that's just how the things are and will be. You grew up being affected by media in ways you never noticed and now you accept and naturalize a lot of things that would made your 24 yo daughter roll their eyes and the only reason why she wouldn't call you an asshole is to avoid conflict in the same way I do with my parents. A lof of things that you think are okay, are not okay for today's generation. In the exact same way, a lof of the thing that I see as acceptable and natural will make me look as a caveman for future generation. The reason why you not only don't think about the hypocrisy but also go off-topic talking about real life and fantasies must be due to how much your generation was missing and naturalizing back them.

At some point you're going to realize I'm making fun of you and not debating you, so we'll see.

If a wife (that according to you had to deal with sexism for two decades), a 24yo daughter and two granddaughters didn't allow you to think more than what your generation did, then there is no point to continue this conversation so I won't reply anymore.

lol, this isn't tumbler. This is a porn game site, where you download and consume porn games, and apparently lecture people about sexism. I can't imagine how much fun you'd actually be to hang out with, seriously.

 

[fidless]

Harem
Netorare
Netorase/swinging

Pick your choice. There's no middle ground. You go deep or not at all. No one cares for half-ass content.
P.S picking other than 1. choice, lock yourself in house, and hide in your closet because they're coming after you.