What do you feel about open relationships in games. (Not NTR)

Open relationships, yes or no? Maybe?

  • Yup

    Votes: 65 42.5%
  • Nope

    Votes: 35 22.9%
  • Depends on the story

    Votes: 53 34.6%

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tanstaafl

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Simple question. Who would be open to playing an MC in an open relationship which entails the MC and the primary LI dating multiple people and/or sharing? This would not be an NTR situation where the LI could be stolen.
 

bbalt

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I feel like the important thing is that the characters are all on the same page about the situation. I'm cool with a story where the MC is like "Hey, just letting you know up front that I'm also seeing X, Y, and Z on the side. Will that be a problem for you?" and the LI saying either "Nah, that's fine by me" or "Yeah, sorry that's a deal breaker for me."

I'm less cool with stories where the MC is constantly cheating on every character with every other character and lying to all of them. Unless maybe it's a story specifically about the MC getting more and more LIs until the whole thing falls apart when they find out.

Informed consent is important, is what I'm trying to get at here.
 

DaScoot

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In my game, it's either implied or explicitly stated that most of the people in your crew are fucking other people besides you. That's thematic to the character (the MC comes from an alien culture where monogamy hardly exists), but even aside from that, I've never been a fan of games where the MC holds other people to standards they won't meet themselves. If the MC's fucking a harem, then they should all get the option too if they want it.
 

tanstaafl

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In my game, it's either implied or explicitly stated that most of the people in your crew are fucking other people besides you. That's thematic to the character (the MC comes from an alien culture where monogamy hardly exists), but even aside from that, I've never been a fan of games where the MC holds other people to standards they won't meet themselves. If the MC's fucking a harem, then they should all get the option too if they want it.
Ah yes, digital equality in a porn game. Because that's what guys love to fantasize about!
 

Adabelitoo

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In my game, it's either implied or explicitly stated that most of the people in your crew are fucking other people besides you. That's thematic to the character (the MC comes from an alien culture where monogamy hardly exists), but even aside from that, I've never been a fan of games where the MC holds other people to standards they won't meet themselves. If the MC's fucking a harem, then they should all get the option too if they want it.
Ah yes, digital equality in a porn game. Because that's what guys love to fantasize about!
Not like everyone will get aroused on equality but it wouldn't hurt to see one or two games where the girl isn't a cheap slut if she has sex with more than a partner while the MC is the people's champ for fucking +20 pussies in an afternoon...

I won't talk about sexism in a porn forum because it would be too hypocritical, but that kind of logic is even more hypocritical.

About the OP, I wouldn't mind it as long as the story is good, but that "as long as the story is good" factor could be applied to pretty much anything so yeah, no big deal for me.
 
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tanstaafl

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I won't talk about sexism in a porn forum because it would be too hypocritical, but that kind of logic is even more hypocritical.
Pro tip: Fantasies are not hypocritical. Ever. They're fantasies. Just desires that are unique to each person and they don't have to be politically correct or even nice.
 
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Avaron1974

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It doesn't bother me.

Most games have a male MC and I can't self insert there so i'm not making choices I would, i'm there either for the story or because I liked some of the female character models. As such I don't care who fucks who.

My main thing is romance because i'm super vanilla and lesbian because i'm a raging dyke. There aren't very many games with a lesbian/bi protag but of the few I play there are a couple of open relationship or sharing options.

Those are only a couple of options in games with many more routes so I have tried them out or am in the process of trying them.

I absolutely think it can work well depending on characters involved and the level of writing.

For instance there is a character in Dog Days of Summer called Evelyn who has got used to people using her for sex. It's become a defense mechanism that whenever someone is nice, she feels it's just for sex. One route involves both Viv and Eve being kicked from college and Eve moving into Viv's home. To thank her she tries to have sex with Viv.

You have 2 choices here, one is to go along with it in which case that route will only ever be sex or you can tell her you aren't interested in one night stands and want more. She turns it down at first as she doesn't trust anyone. You can then slowly wear her down and open her up to the possibility of a relationship and falling in love or the next time she offers you can tell her you want a relationship but are willing for it to be an open one so sex can't be found elsewhere for both parties. So far that route is pretty well done.

Another game called Erisa's Summer. One route is pursue a relationship with Erisa's roommate, Chrissy. Due to them being on a cruise Chrissy tells Erisa that she doesn't mind if she sleeps with other women or involves them for a threesome. She wants Erisa to experience as much as possible before they settle down together. That I think was really well done too.

I've never been a fan of those games where the MC can sleep around but the women can't. For starters i've never been a jealous girl IRL or in a game so characters fucking around doesn't bother me.

It's also one of the reasons I hate a lot of harem games.

Don't get me wrong, I love harems when they are done right like Sisterly Lust, Parental Love and Last Sovereign. By that I mean all the girls also have their own things going on within the harem meaning no one is ever left out. While the man of the harem is busy with one of his lovers the other girls take comfort in each other and have a bit of fun there. There is no jealousy just a happy harem full of people that love each other.

The ones I absolutely hate are those conveyer belt harems where only the MC is ever allowed to have sex so it's one in, fuck, next rinse and repeat.

I find them utterly boring and considering the amount of people involved there is nothing erotic or arousing about it. The girls are basically waiting in line for their turn. They just feel mechanical and emotionless.

Both a well made harem and open relationships only work if the characters and writing is up to par.

An open relationship needs to have an emphasis on the relationship so it doesn't feel like NTR/cuck stuff. 2 characters in love but can't spend enough time together or with overly high sex drives just taking pleasure from other people but their bond is unbreakable. No risk of losing the lover it's just sex.
 

Adabelitoo

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Pro tip: Fantasies are not hypocritical. Ever. They're fantasies. Just desires that are unique to each person and they don't have to be politically correct or even nice.
I'm not talking about fantasies. I'm talking about the fact that most people automatically assume that every pussy in a game must end on MC's dick and every pussy must patiently wait for their turn, and when that doesn't happen then apparently the game is a bad game and the MC is a loser or the game is full of full bloom sluts.

Fantasize whatever you want, I literally don't give a fuck if you fantasize about fucking a kindergarten or a corpse, but thinking, specting and demanding that the MC has the right to fuck whatever he wants while the girl must be exclusive to him is hypocritical.
 
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To answer the question: I voted "depends on the story" but I do have some strong reservations.

Like this:

An open relationship needs to have an emphasis on the relationship so it doesn't feel like NTR/cuck stuff. 2 characters in love but can't spend enough time together or with overly high sex drives just taking pleasure from other people but their bond is unbreakable. No risk of losing the lover it's just sex.
But that's really, really hard to get right.
In fact, the only game that I remember who does it right is Triangle. But that's MFF so not quite what you are asking.

In most games where the wife fucks around (never mind what the husband does) I do get a NTR vibe, justified or not.

Another situation where I can justify the LI fucking around is if the MC doesn't have a "right" to her. Like the sister in My Sister, My Roommate. Still feels a bit like NTR but on the other hand I also feel it's not the MC's place to judge.

Ah yes, digital equality in a porn game. Because that's what guys love to fantasize about!
And despite what I wrote above, I do prefer equality, also in a porn game.
Maybe it sounds strange but I think it improves the characters and therefore the story.
 
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tanstaafl

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Fantasize whatever you want, I literally don't give a fuck if you fantasize about fucking a kindergarten or a corpse, but thinking, specting and demanding that the MC has the right to fuck whatever he wants while the girl must be exclusive to him is hypocritical.
Not even slightly. Now if I demanded that I had the right fuck whatever I wanted, while the girl is exclusive to me, that would make me a hypocrite. If I expected a digital character to, that is not hypocrisy, it's a fantasy. You need to get through your head that you can't offend or marginalize digital avatars. There will be no jealous avatars. It's ok to be selfish in these games. There's no digital tumbler in MilfyCity to cancel you.
 
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tanstaafl

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The ones I absolutely hate are those conveyer belt harems where only the MC is ever allowed to have sex so it's one in, fuck, next rinse and repeat.
Agreed. I think those are boring. That's not even a harem, that's a large communal, rotating couple. The idea of a group of women that love each other as much as they love me, though? That's hot.

But the ones I hate even more are MASSIVE harems, like in Ecchi Sensai, that simply form themselves because 'omg the guy is so badass'. Come on now, that's just silly and rips me out of any kind of immersion I might have in a story.
 
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tanstaafl

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And despite what I wrote above, I do prefer equality, also in a porn game.
Maybe it sounds strange but I think it improves the characters and therefore the story.
It doesn't sound strange at all if it makes the game better for you. My original point as that it shouldn't be forced or punished when it doesn't fit a person's preferences in a fantasy. They're fantasies for gods sake, they're not school. Everyone is different and everyone is right.

The worst kind of person is the person that judges another for their fantasies. Unless they're pedophiles. It's ok to judge them. And kill them.
 

Fliptoynk

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I'd be rolling on the floor laughing to see a guy in an open relationship get ntr'd :ROFLMAO:

I know it's ridiculous... just curious what's with (Not NTR) in the thread's title
 

tanstaafl

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I'd be rolling on the floor laughing to see a guy in an open relationship get ntr'd :ROFLMAO:
That's a threat in a real open relationship, it happened to a buddy of mine. He was in an open relationship with his wife for 5 years when she left him for a girl that HE was dating. But in games, it's very, very rare that would happen. Open relationships in games are controlled by a single God. The Author.

Edit: To answer your question, I should have said not netorare, instead of NTR. Netorare involves a LI being stolen from the MC. And a lot of people associate open relationships with netorare, but that's not the case. An open relationship doesn't involve cucking, or stealing, it's just open. A man doesn't have to be pathetic to let his girl be with another man, he just has to be confident that she loves him for more than sex.
 
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Fliptoynk

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well, I hope your buddy's ex-wife isn't bothering him for alimony.

as for the game, I dunno sir. it will be a fuck fest that's for sure... maybe it'll rock if it contains lots and lots and lots of hooot ladies from teen to milf, ebony to ivory. as for the wife? sure let her boss, the bus/train commuters, the plumbers/cable guys and so on, bone her.

wife: hi honey! oh meet todd our new neighbor!
todd: umf! umf! umf!
husband: yeah have fun, oh and this here is sheila ok let's go to my room you'll gonna love my sugar daddy treat
 
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tanstaafl

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well, I hope your buddy's ex-wife isn't bothering him for alimony.

as for the game, I dunno sir. it will be a fuck fest that's for sure... maybe it'll rock if it contains lots and lots and lots of hooot ladies from teen to milf, ebony to ivory. as for the wife? sure let her boss, the bus/train commuters, the plumbers/cable guys and so on, bone her.

wife: hi honey! oh meet todd our new neighbor!
todd: umf! umf! umf!
husband: yeah have fun, oh and this here is sheila ok let's go to my room you'll gonna love my sugar daddy treat
You have a very childlike perception of open relationships. When a couple enters into one they establish boundaries and guidelines. Very rarely do these include nailing randoms at home. Sometimes couples discuss who they're seeing, sometimes they don't, sometimes they involve sharing, and sometimes they don't. Every one of them is different, but they are built by people who love each other and respect each other.

Sure, the ones in real life fail sometimes, but sometimes they don't. And when they fail, it is very rarely about sex.
 

Holy Bacchus

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Most "open relationships" in games are false because it's basically just a way to give the MC a free pass to screw around and the LI never does anything with anyone. Occasionally you'll get LIs messing around with other girls who may or not be main LIs, but even then there's generally the understanding that the LI(s) in question are doing it more for "fun" than for "love", because they only have that feeling for the MC. So unless devs want to make it a proper open relationship, obviously without the MC having to witness it but maybe hearing about it, then they shouldn't call it that.

Also, if devs want to avoid the controversy of NTR accusations, they shouldn't use the term "open relationship" either. These games and VNs are pretty much centred around the notion and archetypal male fantsay of a babe magnet MC who draws all gorgeous women into their orbit leaving all other men, and also women, in the dust. Therefore, the mere mention of an "open relationship" pierces that fantasy with the possibility that their pussy harem might be invaded by an interloper who could steal one of the girls away.

So, for me, it really comes down to this; if you're going to use the term "open relationship", then make it a proper one otherwise don't mention it at all.
 

Fliptoynk

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I for one can't be serious about open relationships unless I see marriages as some sort of a bad deal written in a paper signed by 2 idiots... and besides we're talking about a would-be game here! of course! aside from me monkey-branching to kingdom come, I'll throw my in-game wife into the pit to see some action