What is the appeal of "Mind control"-games?

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There are probably several different appeals/types of mind control. There's mind control as power over others where the MC can make people do and become whatever the MC wants. Mind control can also be part of corruption, where the fetish is watching a character being changed from one way to another, like from chaste/prude/whatever to slut. Though I've also noticed some mind control stories where mind control is the whole point of it, like where the author is super eloquent in writing the hypnotic induction and the character slowly falling in a trance and then doesn't bother writing any actual sex scenes.
 
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Because "mind control" is a very easy way to write a porn story where you can sexualize characters in a progressive fashion.

It is almost equivalent to writing up a dashboard with buttons with a sex scene each, and having them greyed out until you press the non-greyed out ones enough times.

As for the fetish side of it, also a very easy way to sexualize someone to fantasize about. Take anyone in any setting, and you do some flick of the wrist and they suddenly become your personal sex toy.
 

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I'm with the op on this. I'm not a fan of mind control. Most of the fun, for me, is the build up (flirting, sexual tension, taboos, corruption, seduction etc...). When you have mind control it just side steps most of this. I might as well just go watch some porn instead. I also feel it is a lazy way to craft a story or engage characters into sexual relations. Building (semi plausible) scenarios takes work.
 

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For me, mind control is fun because of what fucked up things you can do as a result.

In the game Corruption, https://f95zone.to/threads/corruption-v2-35-mr-c.1878/, you can mind control a family, then literally fuck the wife & daughter in front of the husband; he's mind controlled too, all while having a casual conversation at the dinner table.

Mind Controlled Jake, Husband of Emily: "How's the dinner Paul?"

*Paul fucking Emily, wife of Jake, at the dinner table* "Both the pork rump, and that of your wifes are absolutely fantastic Jake. Ohhh, and I can't wait to sample your daughter next!"

Mind Controlled Jake: "My family is so lucky to have a good and trusted friend like you."

However, IMO, the act of mind control doesn't come off as alpha or dominant, despite gaining total control, because you acquired that power without learning real social dominance.

Imagine being able to seduce the wife & daughter of a family without mind control, and still being able to fuck them in front of the husband, of whom you've destroyed and made submissive. IMO, that is real power, that is dominance, corrupting and destroying them mentally with their free will intact. Something like that would produce far more powerful erotic stimulation IMO. If you've ever played the Sims, you can walk into anyone's house and seduce the guys wife, all while he's there, and he's not mind controlled, but the husband is passive, all while you're hitting on his wife in front of him, that's EROTIC as fuck imo.

So, I like mind control, but I'm not a huge fan of it, because it ends up being very, very shallow in the end. You easily get the sex scene without proper mental build up, and that weakens the erotic impact of the sex scene, so it's arousing, but not in a way that really fucks the mind to produce those powerful feelings of lust. However, I don't think this is the case for everybody. Mind control can preserve the element of goodness, while you still get the sex. "Hey Jake, how was work?", while his daughter is sucking the MC dick in front of her dad, but the dad thinks nothing of it. As messed up as it is, there's still a sense of decency and normalcy. Without mind control, you can feel how much more evil and corrupt the sex scene can be, which might be too sadistic for a lot of people I'd think, because you'd feel the husband's suffering as he watches your MC plow his wife and daughter in front of him.
 
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Well I'm pretty sure many of us wanted powers like time stop or mind control when we were young.
Nah, only power I wanted when I was young was to turn invisible or fly. The turning invisible had nothing to do with peeping either.
 

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Mind control games are a form of corruption games.
It really comes down to the game and how well the developer implements it as to how good the game is.

Could mind control be over powered? Sure can. However, there still can be consequences.
Lets take a ring that works on one person at a time.
You can give them any command even just by thinking it and they will do it. (It has to be a thought with intent not incidental or accidental) So if you just happen to think a girl is hot and how you would like to see her naked she won't strip. If you intentionally think, "Jill I want you to strip." She does.
You can ask a question and push a response. Jill, do you want to walk home with me? While you force her to agree to it.
You can only do one action at a time. Like this. There is no set limit one what you can order or ask.

You are probably thinking that would be seriously over powered. To an extent you are correct. But what would happen in RL if you started doing that and abusing such a power. What would happen if people started doing and acting strangely around you. Everyone would notice it and someone would catch on. Long story short it wouldn't end well for you.

So the challenge of such a game would be to use your powers without people noticing. You would need to make it incremental in nature. So you couldn't get hot girl who hates your guts to instantly start dating and banging your brains out but but by using incremental steps that build up you being around one another and so on you could get her.

The point being it really does depend on if the developer builds in consequences and other aspects.
 
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It's pretty hard to get a good Mind Control (MC) games, i have played a lot of games, watched and read a lot of hentai that has MC element on it but most of them are repititive and boring (where the user only use it for sex, and only sex). I like MC, and it's been that way since i was a kid. I like the part when the villain use it on the protagonist or their friend to do their bidding, to betray others, pull pranks, etc.

Now though, I only like MC where the victim got their mind twisted, degenerated, their common sense altered, their memory manipulated, and the controller uses them without moral (combine it with other fetishes like lets say Gokkun, Piss drinking or more weird fetish and you get the idea)

Game example is like Prison Battleship series and for a comic/manga check is Nyuu Koubou works, they do a great job (for my taste). There are others too but not a lot, I usually only check MC stuff that uses English lang or got Translated so there might be a lot more in Japanese that i'm unaware of
 
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there's a dividing line between domination and mind control, and while they might first seem related, they're really almost opposites of each other.

domination is about forcing your will over the subject's will, mentally overpowering them. which implies that they MUST have a will of their own, or there's nothing you can overpower. typically the stronger their will, the more pleasurable it's overpowering them. it's about fighting a worthy opponent, and winning them.

mind control is the opposite of that. it's about magically or chemically negating the subject's will, even erasing it from existence. not fighting it, but turning it off like a light switch. usually completely removing even the theoretical possibility of them somehow fighting the control. typically we're looking for mindless slaves, even objects.

both are control fantasies, but from extremely different points of view. it seems to me most of us doms don't care for mind control, precisely because they're not free to fight back. where as the mind control people are unsatisfied with a submissive that retains their own will, precisely because they have the POTENTIAL to not being in their control.

there doesn't seem to be much overlap between these two groups. and why one group gets their dick up or panties wet for one fetish but not the other, as usual no one knows. we just do.

games of course merrily mix up these things because the dev either doesn't share the fetish and just thinks "it's the sort of thing that sounds cool in porn stuff", or because they're on the fence trying to score both groups while not really serving either.
It's not mutually exclusive if the writing is good. Play Kangoku Senkan 1-3 or the recently translated Kangoku Academia. It's both a battle of wits/will + gradual mind/body modification. The ending usually has the winner finally breaking their will before implementing the final mind control.
 

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I feel like are two approaches to mind-control I can enjoy, which I can summarize as "power-trip" and "lab experiment". The former has to hit hard and have strong sexual themes, the latter should be the opposite. I've been enjoying Star Knightess Aura lately, and it's almost perfect in that respect. It has slow, deliberate mind control that is initiated by the player and then carried out by the deuteragonist. You see the incremental changes and how they affect the MC's outlook and lifestyle. And it's not just sexual, either. Much of the enjoyment from mind-control themes can come from influencing a character's life in subtle ways, doesn't have to be directly sex-related.
 

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For me, mind control is fun because of what fucked up things you can do as a result.

In the game Corruption, https://f95zone.to/threads/corruption-v2-35-mr-c.1878/, you can mind control a family, then literally fuck the wife & daughter in front of the husband; he's mind controlled too, all while having a casual conversation at the dinner table.
Scenes like that usually do nothing for me because they don't feel earned and they have no stakes. To me, mind control scenes are equivalent to those tired dream sequences where you get to fuck a girl before the normal progression of the game would allow for it, because people would be mad if the game had no sex scenes yet. I hate those too.
 

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I can only tell why i like it:

Power trip.
Mind control allows for a feeling of control nothing else can match.
And i am talking mind control.
Not sluttification or bimbofication.

The fun part of mind control.

1: Monotone voice, Robotic movement, limited programming.
To turn a person into a puppet feeds my lust for power.

2: The risk of getting caught.
A good mind control games make the mind control powerful but not instant.
Some planning is required.
For example.
Mind controling an entire family instantly and fucking them is boring.
The fun comes in mind controling one of them and using the mind slave to get control of the rest.

3: Victem being unaware.
For example.
You hire someone who offical job is accounting.
Unoffical she is brainwashed into whoring herself out during work hours.
She doesnt know any better.
As far she know she was accounting all day.

For me the fun of mind control is the power trip of making others do what i without them even being aware of it.
 
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Making people/characters/entities do things they wouldn't normally do or testing how solid their willpower is (especially at your own risk of having your own will broken and utterly shattered) also is a pretty funny (and potentially arousing for some) twist. Mind duels (or all-out mind wars) can be some good shit in battlefucks, but I've yet to see an interesting yuri, females only one with great art...

It's especially effective for me if you make them aware after the process and pay the price if need be, otherwise it just looks like hypno/time stop without consequences for your own selfish benefits.

Needless to say, anything that affects the mind beforehand (drugs and the like) kind of ruins the entire "mind challenge".
 

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When done in a subtle manner, it can help push the story along. Some stories are already ridiculous enough that the mind control can add a bit more "realistic" sense to it.

I occasionally like subtle mind control where it is about "suggestions" rather than "complete control". Specifically works with incest content, where intent is on guiding the target's mind to eschewing social norms in favor of embracing family hedonism.

There's a limit to the mind control though, I do not like when targets are reduced to "slaves". Individuality and consent should still be a thing, mind control aspect is mainly subtle corruption in coaxing out the target to embrace taboo desire hidden in their subconscious.
 
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Going to be honest, I've always had fun with idea of turning the player character into a sleeper agent with hypnosis. Erotic or non erotic it allows the author to essentially tell two separate, but parallel stories. Depending on how the story or game is written, you may even have the chance to miss the side story completely if you either don't take the mission with the hypnotist or if you defeat them before they can get control of your mind. If the mind control does succeed in getting control of the player character, it adds an element of suspense to you playthrough. How are you going to get your character free? When is the next time an NPC is going to say the trigger phrase to make my character's sleeper agent directives activate? Take the following example from Caliross: The Shapeshifter's Legacy
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Going to be honest, I've always had fun with idea of turning the player character into a sleeper agent with hypnosis. Erotic or non erotic it allows the author to essentially tell two separate, but parallel stories. Depending on how the story or game is written, you may even have the chance to miss the side story completely if you either don't take the mission with the hypnotist or if you defeat them before they can get control of your mind. If the mind control does succeed in getting control of the player character, it adds an element of suspense to you playthrough. How are you going to get your character free? When is the next time an NPC is going to say the trigger phrase to make my character's sleeper agent directives activate? Take the following example from Caliross: The Shapeshifter's Legacy
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Sounds interesting. How does the game handle this end state if this is a side quest?
 

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Personally? I can't stand mind control/Hypnotism games. It's just feels like a lazy plot device and is just way too convenient. I prefer actual social manipulation or something like that.

I don't think that games with Mind Control are bad, but it's one of the genres (Tags?) I stay away from. I suppose if it limited then maybe but ehhh... I don't get he appeal but that is of course I am not a fan of it.
 

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Personally? I can't stand mind control/Hypnotism games. It's just feels like a lazy plot device and is just way too convenient. I prefer actual social manipulation or something like that.

I don't think that games with Mind Control are bad, but it's one of the genres (Tags?) I stay away from. I suppose if it limited then maybe but ehhh... I don't get he appeal but that is of course I am not a fan of it.
I see where you are coming from there, and I do agree that many games and stories tend to use mind control as a short cut or easy plot device. Unfortunately, in order to do hypnosis/mind control/brainwashing in a way that isn't just a fast way to a sex scene takes a lot of planning beforehand. First off, if you don't just want the hypnosis to be a bad end generator, you actually have to come up with a good reason for why, after gaining hypnotic control of the player character the hypnotist doesn't just keep them as a sex slave. This means that the hypnotist actually has to learn about the player character in some way that reveals that they are essential to solving the main storyline of the game. Second, once the hypnotist learns how important the player character is to solving the issue of the main storyline, the looming threat that the player character was sent to fix must also affect the hypnotist in a way they can't just run away from. Once you have those two things down, you can then have a legitimate reason for why the hypnotist doesn't just pack up his prize and fuck off to greener pastures.

Another issue that I have with many games that have mind control in them is that the hypnotized player character is never really utilized for their skills. More often than not the hypnotist just turns them into a mindless sex slave and calls it a day. If they do utilize the player character's skills, it's in a cutscene as part of a bad end. Honestly, if you are able to gain hypnotic control of someone with the skill set that a player character normally has, why the hell aren't you using it? A great example of this is in that Assassin's Creed game for the mission Hell's Bells. A hypnotist has hypnotic control over someone who has managed to track him down and figure out his plans and what does he do? "Go pick pocket a few people for me and then bring me the money." He doesn't try to find out how she figured out it was him, nor when she succeeds does he ask her how she had the skills to rob people without getting caught. The man had a master assassin under his control, along with all her skills, and all it would have taken was him asking her "How did you find me?" for him to realize that he had an asset that he never should have let go.

Anyway, just a rant of mine. In the end what makes hypnosis/mind control/brainwashing great for me is that it's not just a fetish but also a plot device that can be used to make a great story if it's handled correctly.
 

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Sounds interesting. How does the game handle this end state if this is a side quest?
Currently, the game has yet to be finished but the author is getting close. So far, there are several instances where your programming can be triggered forcing you to obey the Zanti family. Best advice I can give is that if you want to experience them all, you need to be enslaved by the Zanti family as soon as possible because some of the content can be missed as you can only see it in the earlier chapters.
 
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Currently, the game has yet to be finished but the author is getting close. So far, there are several instances where your programming can be triggered forcing you to obey the Zanti family. Best advice I can give is that if you want to experience them all, you need to be enslaved by the Zanti family as soon as possible because some of the content can be missed as you can only see it in the earlier chapters.
Seems like this route can lock you into an ending though, and if that decision is made so early in the game... could be annoying starting over to try other routes.
 

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Seems like this route can lock you into an ending though, and if that decision is made so early in the game... could be annoying starting over to try other routes.
Without knowing how the author wants to write up the ending with all the side quests thrown in, I can't offer specifics. What I can say is that the author has promised that no matter what happens to your character in a side quest, unless that side quest has a bad end to it if you fail, you will always be able to complete the main questline.
 
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