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What turns you off about a game almost immediately?

Nobody Cares

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I tolerate it because it's so commonplace, but MCs who are serial liars and cheaters--they seduce 11 different women simultaneously and almost never fully disclose to most if not any of their LIs. "I'm fucking the mom and aunt and daughter, this will inevitably lead to disaster, better not come clean to anyone about it". Look, just apply "harem logic" instead of forcing the character to sneak around and lie all the time. I don't want to play a lying manipulative sex addict ALL the time.
I know, right? Instead of waving the premise into the plot, most developers simply decide to ignore it. It is lazy as hell.
 

lossius

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What game was it? Im not surprised someone mistook a game with a black mc as a ntr game because thats one of the top roles we get in vns. Imma be honest, I was told about a game and I was shocked that it wasnt ntr or some shit because of the way the mc looked.
The game is still in early development, I personally don't even think it's worth sending you because even I don't know if the game is good, I haven't played it, the synopsis and the fact that it's still too early didn't catch my attention (and I would hate to send you games that I haven't even played), so this was the game.

It's strange that in the comments I saw people saying that his boss ("used the N word" but later called him a white guy, so I didn't understand anything anymore :HideThePain:)
 
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people don't seem to like the 2017 movie's leads.
Yes, I mean the character Valérien from the comic, but in my case
it's about the choice of actors for the film. I didn't think he was suitable.
As a little comparison - comic vs movie:
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Yeah, I just couldn't take Dane Dehaan seriously as Valérien in the movie, because, to me, he looked like he was 15 years old, and it made all the serious "I'm a professional" scenes feel like watching a kid dress up for Halloween. Now, after watching it, I found out the actor was 30 years old (!!) in this movie, but the guy doesn't look like it. Not his fault, (his acting was fine), but he didn't have the physicality or presence to sell the role to me.

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I'm not a fan of grinding in sandboxes, but I can enjoy it if it is done well. A personal pet peeve of mine is when the dev knows a player is going to have to do an action or scene many times, multiple times, and they don't put in any variety to the scene so that there is at least SOME variation when the player repeats it. It doesn't have to be much, just a few unique variations that have a chance to pop-up from time to time in place of the generic one.

It boggles my mind when even text-based games don't do this. Like, "This event is always two sentences. You couldn't be bothered to type a handful more to show up every once in a while to break the monotony?"
 
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Csgamer48

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- Bad pacing
- The MC acts according to his/her penis/vagina
- Forced plot
- Combining too many genres together without a proper execution
 
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The game is still in early development, I personally don't even think it's worth sending you because even I don't know if the game is good, I haven't played it, the synopsis and the fact that it's still too early didn't catch my attention (and I would hate to send you games that I haven't even played), so this was the game.

It's strange that in the comments I saw people saying that his boss ("used the N word" but later called him a white guy, so I didn't understand anything anymore :HideThePain:)
funnily enough i played a bit of that the other day. I can understand the confusion because the mc is a spec of cocoa powder in milk in terms of skin tone but he has the trendy killmonger locks but its dyed blue or purple or some shit. Yeah i wouldnt really recommend it because idk if thats the level of the dev themself or not but the renders are pretty dry and the dialogue at least to me didnt do much to hold my interest.
 
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Insomnimaniac Games

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funnily enough i played a bit of that the other day. I can understand the confusion because the mc is a spec of cocoa powder in milk in terms of skin tone but he has the trendy killmonger locks but its dyed blue or purple or some shit. Yeah i wouldnt really recommend it because idk if thats the level of the dev themself or not but the renders are pretty dry and the dialogue at least to me didnt do much to hold my interest.
You know, it sounds like you two could break into an underserved niche. :unsure:
 
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Yeah. There's like, 5 tops. There's more vore games than black MC games... which is a sentence I never thought I'd say. :ROFLMAO:
If i had the attention span to learn and the imagination then I would love to but as of right now, life is kinda hell. Besides I feel like i couldnt head something like that, if anything i'd do better bouncing ideas but even that is questionable. Trying to hold onto my sanity is taking all my concentration.

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If i had the attention span to learn and the imagination then I would love to but as of right now, life is kinda hell. Besides I feel like i couldnt head something like that, if anything i'd do better bouncing ideas but even that is questionable. Trying to hold onto my sanity is taking all my concentration.

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Ah, what I meant by "niche" is just that there aren't many of them.
 

Nobody Cares

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If i had the attention span to learn and the imagination then I would love to but as of right now, life is kinda hell. Besides I feel like i couldnt head something like that, if anything i'd do better bouncing ideas but even that is questionable. Trying to hold onto my sanity is taking all my concentration.

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I think the majority of developers just want to make the MC as generic as possible, which means pale both in the East and the West.
 

Satyrsfaction

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I happen to be a white European and mostly I can't put myself in the role of Asian MCs.
Often lanky, submissive (I think that's part of Japanese interpersonal behavior).
Although I do have a soft spot for Japan and am also a fan of samurais and Asian philosophy
(Hagakure, Go Rin no Sho, Art of War etc.).

I don't like the MCs that much in most cases, and it's due to a variety of things:
too young, too childish, boring, stupid behavior etc.
I mean, it can't be - that the reason for the main character's success is only
because he has a big penis and everyone else has a small one (or vice versa in NTR's case).

BUT if I like the MC (authentic, likeable, clever), I don't care what color his skin is,
even though he could be e.g. Native American, Tibetan, Maori or African, it doesn't matter.
Of course it has to fit the story.
... which is why I also find the black 'Lieutenant Mattias' in
the Disney film "Frozen" oddly placed (although he is likeable).
In the Musical Frozen, the role of the previously white Nordic Kristoff
has now been given to a black actor.
For me it's like if in the scene on the rock in "The Lion King"
where the lion cub is held up, they suddenly placed arctic foxes,
penguins and polar bears.
This is not meant in a bad way, because from my point of view
e.g. in a fairy tale set in Africa, a light-skinned red-haired Irishman
as part of the tribe who comes out of a mud hut would not be suitable either.


So, a game with a black MC is not only fine for me, but would also be an interesting change,
as long as the character fits into the story and the environment... and is not too childish, stupid, boring...
 

Doorknob22

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Sock boobs.

Out of the box, daz3d doesn't know how to handle clothed big breasts and simply attempts to cover the skin, which results in hideous sock-covered-boobs. Some developers are too lazy to address this and just release their AVNs in this state.

I simply can't bring myself to play such games. I'd even argue that a developer who is lazy about graphic aspects of his game will probably won't hold high standards in other parts of the game as well.


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ArnwaldtheDark

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So things that turn me off outside the scope of tags would be;

* loud music/video's you don't have a way to turn down inside the game itself

* conformation pop-ups, why suddenly break up the rythtm of a scene just so I have to press a button labeld 'CUM'

* choices that aren't actual choices, I don't mind a game that has only a limited set of endings, or just one ending, but don't pretend that whatever choice I make has huge repercussions on a non-excistent path.

* adding to that, saying a tag that interest me is in a game, even though it is maybe a 2 min 10 words stub in the game that is 'under development'.

* forced sissification/transformation especially if it's just adding a pair of boobs & calling it quits, if they get magicked into a fully fledged woman by a curse sure enough, but the entire: Sister puts you in a cage because you have smol peepee & you need to worship BBC is .... *sigh*

* Not using uniform keys, for instance deciding, you know what for movement I'm not using WASD like everyone, no I'm using IJKL and then J isn't Journal, no journal is A. *facepalm*

* If there is multiple love interests, but they are pretty much all the same carbon copy perfect woman with big boobs & wide hips. Get me a short stack in there, or a woman with some curves, hell even a girl with a flat chest or inverted nipples.

* The obvious one, but the one I can tolerate more then the others, is bad writing & I don't mean bad scripting, bad scripting/playwriting gets deleted no matter what. I do mean just bad grammar or bad spelling, get someone that is a native speaker of English or something to proof read your stuff.

I possible forget some other reasons why I canned games instantly in the past, but that's the main ones I think.
 

Erosoft

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My least favorite sexual trope is pseudo-rape, where the assaulted character flips a switch from being against the sex to liking it for no apparent reason. Some of my favorite games, like The Imperial Gatekeeper, are guilty of this. In this case, you're a border guard who is actively and maliciously raping innocent civilians who just want to cross through to the other side. They are clearly against it, but almost immediately start spouting "don't stop! more! I'm cumming!" and other nonsense.

Either making your rape scenes rapey, or turn them into proper consensual romance.