When does a female character lose sexual appeal?

[Perverteer]

As I'm confined to my bed for the coming weeks, I'm thinking a little about the future after Sisterly Lust. My current project is very much geared towards lust fulfilment for the MC (player), so the girls have no serious rivals and the sex comes relatively easy. NTR as a fetish doesn't interest me, so it's unlikely I will ever include it in a project.

My next VN will contain a lot of sex as well and the MC will get his fair share, of course. But I've been wondering though at what point a girl in an erotic VN becomes ruined to a player. Some people are extremely protective of "their" girls and hate it when another male character even chats up the female element. So I'm interested at what point you consider the appeal of a girl being lost?

To give an example, a major part of the female cast gets abducted by some monster and a little while later you end up finding them entangled and penetrated by various tentacles (belonging to the monster), requiring you to save them. Would that diminish their sexual appeal because of the penetration?

 

[recreation]

I think tentacle monsters are more common than other "beasts" like a dog for example, so I guess that would be okay for most people. I don't have a problem with that either, but I have problems with "manly" beasts, meaning beasts that have a human form. Werewolves for example, or Orcs, or the likes.
Yeah, I know thats weird^^

 

[baneini]

Theres the jap purity fags who will create a backlash against idols who are found out to not be virgins. It seems you need to create a niche product aimed specifically to cater to their unrealistic demands OR just ignore them and make a normal game. I mean you will see people complain about the mcs mother having sex with other men. It's comical but it highlights their mentality, it's either 100% good or 100% bad. They own women like slaves and everything the women do has to go trough them.

As for tentacle or monsters scenes they have zero value because they don't exist in real life. No agency = no point. I doubt even the purity fags care, it'd be like their slave walking down the road and a tree falling on them hitting them in the vagina. Big woop.

 

[Nelythia]

To give an example, a major part of the female cast gets abducted by some monster and a little while later you end up finding them entangled and penetrated by various tentacles (belonging to the monster), requiring you to save them. Would that diminish their sexual appeal because of the penetration?

Yes, absolutely.
The penetration isn't the only reason though, I am not into tentacles/bestality stuff.
So in that case, I just wouldn't play the game, but for the people that are into it, I guess that would be fine.

I also have to add, if a game is too grindy or has too annoying free-roam (like events locked to certain time/day, too much locations to click, etc) I lose interest in the game and all characters/the story immediately as well.

Your current game though, is incredible. I love it and enjoy playing it.
I would like to see more games from you, preferably in VN.

 

[macadam]

I think tentacle monsters are more common than other "beasts" like a dog for example, so I guess that would be okay for most people. I don't have a problem with that either, but I have problems with "manly" beasts, meaning beasts that have a human form. Werewolves for example, or Orcs, or the likes.
Yeah, I know thats weird^^

no agree with that ... when you check animation (like SFM source filmmaker stuff and else ) , i almost never see tentacle.
meanwhile, i can see shit tons of animation includ dogs, horse and else.
also WOW porn are extremly popular and still never use tentacle but all the beast from wow (such as tauren, wolf etc..).
i m not fan of bestiality (weird right ? lol) unless its the contrary of your opinion XD , unless they look pretty humanoid.
i can't stand in front of a dog fucking a women or a horse or any other things that arent at least a minimum human.

for me, a girl get ruined in a game at the moment she turn into a puppet. when she is litteraly a full slave without mind. turning a girl into a bunch of flesh and meat just good to fuck is what push me away from a game and kill a girl.
a girl being a bitch is not problem for me, as long she is still "human" on her and not a total piece of sexdoll to fuck with no logic or emotion or else. as by what, where , who and how... i dont care alots as long its not over exaggerrated in monstruosity XD

 

[Joshua Tree]

Imho, I like story driven games. Where you as a player have to work for it, but still not overly grindy way. If the target of your pursuit just turn into a lump of flesh you can have your way with. It will lose interest. A bit of what @macadam touched on above.

In regard of your love interest or target of pursuit in a game get victim of a tentacle monster or something else outside her own control. Something she can't avoid, or get away from. I don't think such should/would be an "putting off" factor for the player. It's more when the she is a willing participant I guess.

 

[icesun]

I personally think about it this way:
The following is under the condition that both parties agreed upon being exclusive. As long as they aren't exclusive I don't care what "the other party" does, but I don't want to be forced to witness what is going on. (For example when I gave Babysitter a shot, I couldn't get over the dude from the bar that went home with the girls and MC and I was unable to prevent him from entering MC's appartment or doing whatever he felt like - that I really disliked)
1. I don't care about talking, flirting or that kind of stuff - as long as it's somewhat subtle.
2. The moment it gets physical that's a different story, hugging and stuff is totally fine for me, kiss on the cheek is okay, kiss on the mouth and everything beyond that is not.
3. But to differentiate: If anything physical were to happen / have happened initiation and consent are the important factors. I wouldn't blame a character for having being drugged/abducted/whatever no matter the according results.

So while that tentacle monster stuff is somewhat strange, the possible affection for the girls would be unaffected for me...

 

[recreation]

no agree with that ... when you check animation (like SFM source filmmaker stuff and else ) , i almost never see tentacle.
meanwhile, i can see shit tons of animation includ dogs, horse and else.
also WOW porn are extremly popular and still never use tentacle but all the beast from wow (such as tauren, wolf etc..).
i m not fan of bestiality (weird right ? lol) unless its the contrary of your opinion XD , unless they look pretty humanoid.
i can't stand in front of a dog fucking a women or a horse or any other things that arent at least a minimum human.

for me, a girl get ruined in a game at the moment she turn into a puppet. when she is litteraly a full slave without mind. turning a girl into a bunch of flesh and meat just good to fuck is what push me away from a game and kill a girl.
a girl being a bitch is not problem for me, as long she is still "human" on her and not a total piece of sexdoll to fuck with no logic or emotion or else. as by what, where , who and how... i dont care alots as long its not over exaggerrated in monstruosity XD

Naah, what I meant is, the more abstract the monster, the more I'm okay with it. I'm not into horses or dogs (but catgirls xD) and I would always prefer to see a girl get fucked by a (female!!!) humanoid being rather than a ordinary beast

 

[macadam]

Naah, what I meant is, the more abstract the monster, the more I'm okay with it. I'm not into horses or dogs (but catgirls xD) and I would always prefer to see a girl get fucked by a (female!!!) humanoid being rather than a ordinary beast

ah .. ok.. my bad

 

[freedom.call]

Would that diminish their sexual appeal because of the penetration?

I don't think so. I don't go through games or life thinking women are virgins until my magical dick arrives, so who's fucked them isn't something I think about.

 

[Tranquil Rain]

Seems like most of us are thinking similar things, so yeah if the girl instantly turns into a slut and changes too much as a character I would lose all interest. If the girl puts resistance up and stays true to her character then I don't see a problem. Tentacle/monster isn't my style so I cant say much, the games that I played with it had short rape scenes and the characters felt like shit but moved on.

But if none of them are your girls then it kinda just defeats half the reason I play the games tbh, now if the characters are hot enough and switches them around enough I could see it being something I can enjoy. Guess I would need a more concrete example to go further

 

[Akamari]

My next VN will contain a lot of sex as well and the MC will get his fair share, of course. But I've been wondering though at what point a girl in an erotic VN becomes ruined to a player. Some people are extremely protective of "their" girls and hate it when another male character even chats up the female element. So I'm interested at what point you consider the appeal of a girl being lost?

Better question would be when is the appeal not lost because that happens to me almost every time. Essentially, I lose interest if my MC has sex with a character too quickly. Before I get hooked on her. If I'm not interested in the character's personality at that point, it's just a one time thing. Mission accomplished, time to move on.

To give an example, a major part of the female cast gets abducted by some monster and a little while later you end up finding them entangled and penetrated by various tentacles (belonging to the monster), requiring you to save them. Would that diminish their sexual appeal because of the penetration?

Yes, this would ruin it for me. The reason is that I find tentacle porn to be bullshit as far as storytelling goes. Why would a tentacle monster penetrated a girl instead of killing her? What's in it for the monster? It just doesn't work.

 

[macadam]

Yes, this would ruin it for me. The reason is that I find tentacle porn to be bullshit as far as storytelling goes. Why would a tentacle monster penetrated a girl instead of killing her? What's in it for the monster? It just doesn't work.

that can do it, if the monsters are in need to reproduce and they use others "host" for that. kind of like in Alien movies. alien or plant species that cant reproduce themself and are in need to put their eggs or whatever into another creature body. (like a parasite)

that can pass i think. but that also require a more complicated story next to it.

 

[freedom.call]

There is a wasp out there who places its eggs inside spiders and other small creatures. It's a desert dude so it's the only place humid enough.

True story.

If you can't beat them, join them.

 

[Joshua Tree]

that can do it, if the monsters are in need to reproduce and they use others "host" for that. kind of like in Alien movies. alien or plant species that cant reproduce themself and are in need to put their eggs or whatever into another creature body. (like a parasite)

that can pass i think. but that also require a more complicated story next to it.

If you don't wan't to stray to far into sci-fi teretory I guess you could have someone get groped/molested by an octopus. In "Roundscape Adorevia", if you played like a female prot you could help some snake like being reproc by be injected with eggs. Only game I come across that got such reproc.

 

[Akamari]

that can do it, if the monsters are in need to reproduce and they use others "host" for that. kind of like in Alien movies. alien or plant species that cant reproduce themself and are in need to put their eggs or whatever into another creature body. (like a parasite)

that can pass i think. but that also require a more complicated story next to it.

Using tentacles for reproduction is rather BS as well. Even if I went along with that, it doesn't excuse why other tentacles use other points of entry, as is standard.

 

[Joshua Tree]

There is a wasp out there who places its eggs inside spiders and other small creatures. It's a desert dude so it's the only place humid enough.

True story.

If you can't beat them, join them.

Uh... yeah but straying a bit away from anything sexual now tbh. lol. I have a friend that almost lost his leg after he had some "hidden" passengers in his leg after vacation in Thailand. So... that some nasty stuff...

 

[Abîme]

If it make sense in the story, that don't bother me, and you can go further than tentacles

 

[Tataro]

For me it would be the loss of agency over the female characters. In your case of tentacle monster, if there was nothing I could have done about it, or even worse if it was caused by her stubbornness or stupidity. Think Acting Lessons fiery ending. Alternatively having other men make moves on them and succeeding even if its non sexual. Previous relationships ie they're married or they have a boyfriend not withstanding.

Sluttification that I have no agency over. IE Tattoo's that I can't prevent her from getting or piercings etc.

Willingness by the girl to get pregnant is a huge turn on. Pregnant sex as well. Dirty talk involving it. Even just talking about it turns me on.

 

[Lorric17]

In my opinion, the situation setup and motives mean a lot. My tastes are pretty fucking vanilla these days, but if the setup is well written and believable then I can get into many things. If the people involved, particularly the MC, are assholes, I'm out. If their motives are "porny", as in doesn't make sense, I'm probably out as well.

Take Jenna from Personal Trainer. Her route seems to be 1. She's an arrogant bitch, particularly to the MC. 2. MC makes up a story about needing to train her humility, in a bid to create the flimsiest excuse of all time outside a japanese VN. 3. She agrees for no good reason?. 4. She gets treated like a sub in various ways, for instance being fucked in an open reception area. She's pretty popular among players though, so I guess I'm in a minority on this one. But I just can't see a person like her actually agreeing to that, point 3 is the one that killed it for me. (don't be harsh on me here, it's been a long time since I played it)

Compare her to Alina in SL. Way better, because she wants it and asks for it. There is no need to explain why she's a sub, just that she likes it.

Another one that turned me off is the "mom" from The Inheritance. Sexy milf mom, mc tries to get close to her. He then finds some vhs tapes of her youth, in which she was a cum slut getting dp'ed by strangers for the cuck husband. Believable, sure. Attractive, no. Again, I'm pretty sure there is an audience for her, but not me.