VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [Ch. 3 Full] [Oceanlab]

[Garvelt]

I understand and agree to some of what you are saying however I would like to clarify one thing, I admitted to not playing the current iteration of SG not the former, I have played the pre rework of SG. By that definition I can clarify right now without having to have played the new updates ( i think I played the very first rework of SG a bit too after it got reworked ).

Just as you have described WiAB being a mess, let me just give you an idea what pre rework done by Ocean looked like. It was way worse than whatever WiAB is without adding the 0.6, to put simply, it was decent but did not hold a candle to it. To simply quote you " the remake was badly needed to elevate it to SG's level " you are correct that the current needs a rework to get on the level of visuals at the least ( in my case ) but now imagine the reverse in this case so you can understand where me and most people come from who were here before SG was even around in the first place.

Imagine having a decent game already than taking over a subpar project you was advising take that game and invest in it to improve it and than have new people ( for example like you and most current SG fans ) come and saying that SG is a much superior product and that he should focus on that instead of this one and use statistics of the SG in terms of patreon to justify why it should be happening, When before the SG updates WiAB was the lead in making money and was the superior product already. do you see where I am going on with this ? So while I understand what you mean in terms of support for SG taking the lead and as such it should be priority, all he would be doing is alienating those who were here in the first place already and second of all his support there only dwindled because he has not updated the game. So While I understand I disagree that his focus should be on SG, SG has at this point gotten enough attention and we from the WiAB have been waiting long enough.

I have never attacked Ocean or done anything negative towards him other than point out either facts from his actions or statements or given my opinions, And while I want him to bring out the best product I have been patient for a long time and like I said I am currently very much admitting I am a bit salty to see 2 updates in a row for SG instead of the promised 1 for 1 update.

EDIT: PS : Another reason I am also salty is because I have predicted how working on two games and having computers or better gpu won't do fuck all but hinder his production on WiAB let alone focus on two games at the same time, He has said while he understands where most of us come from with saying that, that would not be the case and here we are with 2 updates for SG and zero for WiAB and now with people trying to get him to focus on SG yes I am very much frustrated, I am not saying he lied but life happened however my point and prediction turned out to be a fact just like every other single one, I was hoping he would at the LEAST prove me wrong ONCE that is all.

Listen, I completely understand where you are coming from and I agree with you as well. I didn't say SG should have priority over WIAB though, I just pointed out why it seemingly has the priority right now. I want both games to be updated regularly (just as he said they would be), because even though I like SG more, WIAB has a lot of potential as well. In an ideal world Ocean would find a clone of himself so he could do both games, but I think he is too much of a perfectionist, so finding someone like him is going to be very hard if not impossible. As things stand, I just can't see this whole thing working out. SG's latest update took 7 months to complete, which is a lot, while as you pointed out WIAB has been in limbo for far more than that. Now, this is not a dig at Ocean, I love the guy and his work, but that's not a good look for him. I know he had problems earlier this year, but if he continues with this pace neither game will be finished in the next 10 years. I guess we are going to have to wait and see what this year brings, but if the new update for WIAB is not out in the next two months and if SG doesn't get another update till the end of the year, I think it would be best to put one of the games onhold and focus on the other one, at least until he finds someone he can share the workload with. Regular updates mean more Patreons, more Patreons mean more money, more money means he can hire someone else and also get better PC components or another PC which means better quality and reduced rendering time, reduced rendering time means more frequent updates and it goes on and on. Releasing regular updates while developing two games at the same time is going to be very hard.

 

[Cabin Fever]

can someone explain to me why Ocean's giving so much more priority to Summer's gone than WIAB?? I want to fap, not reading boring stories and being blue-balled to death

If all you want is to fap but not read stories, why are you playing VN instead of watching porn?

 

[darlic]

If all you want is to fap but not read stories, why are you playing VN instead of watching porn?

I never said I don't want to read stories. I said I don't want to play adult-oriented games that put the story above anything else, thus making it boring, no matter how good the story could be, because at the end of the day I play adult games for one reason only. You're free to believe whatever but to me seeking a good story in an h-game makes no sense at all. There are a lot of great poems and general literature that could easily suffice that.
So in other words I can happily accept to play an h-game with good story elements, not vice-versa. I hope this clarifies my point of view on the matter.
This is why I believe that WIAB >> SG.

 

[razorblade12345]

agree to disagree

 

[Deleted member 3594300]

Man, what a banger story.. nailed it! Loved the animation and the ending of 0.6 felt like a movie so kudos for that, I am eagerly waiting for what is next in-store. Also is it just me or does the MC’s dad looks a bit like Geralt from The Witcher 3 especially in the end animation.

 

[St1ffme1ster]

When the remaster gets released how episodes will have, ep1 only or more ?

 

[bluerubber]

so many games get the dreaded "abandoned" tag on this site after only a fraction of the time this game has gone, even games that the dev is still active but hasn't updated in a few months. This dev was once reliable, now, just yet another money grabber endorsed by f95...

 

[DanThaMan]

When the remaster gets released how episodes will have, ep1 only or more ?

I heard it will be 0.1 of the game remade when it comes out, if thats the case it's gonna take another 5 years for it to reach 0.6 again lol.

 

[St1ffme1ster]

I heard it will be 0.1 of the game remade when it comes out, if thats the case it's gonna take another 5 years for it to reach 0.6 again lol.

See ya all in 2026.

 

[Cabin Fever]

I heard it will be 0.1 of the game remade when it comes out, if thats the case it's gonna take another 5 years for it to reach 0.6 again lol.

I guess you didn't hear the part about it's not going to be remake v0.1 = original v0.1 and so on in terms of progression.

 

[Kemal Ataturk]

over a year since last update? isn't it time to mark as abandoned?

 

[zoe_meat]

I never said I don't want to read stories. I said I don't want to play adult-oriented games that put the story above anything else, thus making it boring, no matter how good the story could be, because at the end of the day I play adult games for one reason only. You're free to believe whatever but to me seeking a good story in an h-game makes no sense at all. There are a lot of great poems and general literature that could easily suffice that.
So in other words I can happily accept to play an h-game with good story elements, not vice-versa. I hope this clarifies my point of view on the matter.
This is why I believe that WIAB >> SG.

Bro honestly all of us here like animated puss all thanks to MxR he's the cause of my love for it but we also like real life puss as well friendly advice Get Out doors more.

 

[Ayhsel]

I never said I don't want to read stories. I said I don't want to play adult-oriented games that put the story above anything else, thus making it boring, no matter how good the story could be, because at the end of the day I play adult games for one reason only. You're free to believe whatever but to me seeking a good story in an h-game makes no sense at all. There are a lot of great poems and general literature that could easily suffice that.
So in other words I can happily accept to play an h-game with good story elements, not vice-versa. I hope this clarifies my point of view on the matter.
This is why I believe that WIAB >> SG.

What you are looking then is not adult but mostly porn.

And you are also wrong to the fact that because something is "h-game" in the sense of including sex scene cannot have a story as good as general literature. Mathematically speaking, being an adult game allows for potentially better stories, as you are less restrictive to the kind of content you could provide. So everything you could do in a non adult game you could also do in an adult game but not vice versa.

 

[Euron13]

I mean, by and large this is a porn site. It’s foolish to say you can’t have well told erotica with an engaging narrative and I think that when it’s just a mindless flow of rendered, nonsensical sex scenes strung together without much by way of narrative you tend to get a pretty subpar experience. Having a narrative to help prop up the sex scenes makes the whole thing more engaging and keeps you invested in where the game goes from one update to the next.

That said, let’s not kid ourselves, most people are here to fap. Not everyone’s going to enjoy something here that’s lacking sexual content. Personally, WIAB has sexual content and last we heard Ocean had a full range of kinks and fetishes that he wanted to incorporate into the game (aside from Harem) so in that sense I’m going to be more interested in that than something like Summer’s Gone, which I believe is meant to be pretty chaste? Some people might be into it, but I need that erotica component.

 

[mommysboiii]

I mean, by and large this is a porn site. It’s foolish to say you can’t have well told erotica with an engaging narrative and I think that when it’s just a mindless flow of rendered, nonsensical sex scenes strung together without much by way of narrative you tend to get a pretty subpar experience. Having a narrative to help prop up the sex scenes makes the whole thing more engaging and keeps you invested in where the game goes from one update to the next.

That said, let’s not kid ourselves, most people are here to fap. Not everyone’s going to enjoy something here that’s lacking sexual content. Personally, WIAB has sexual content and last we heard Ocean had a full range of kinks and fetishes that he wanted to incorporate into the game (aside from Harem) so in that sense I’m going to be more interested in that than something like Summer’s Gone, which I believe is meant to be pretty chaste? Some people might be into it, but I need that erotica component.

I am pretty sure summer is gone will be pretty kinky and suexual too but he wants too lay down a good story and intruduce the cheracters first which I like. For me a good story and good cheracters are very important in a pornogame otherwise it would be one mindless render after another. Hope both games will be very long and not end after cheapter 8 or something.

 

[Bossk]

Personally I started coming here for the porn games, no point in pretending otherwise, found this site by accident. But that's all changed more or less.

Sure i still avoid games with "no sexual content" tags, I prefer games that delve into the kinks I enjoy. But I avoid the more basic "here are a bunch of sex scenes strung together with the flimsiest of excuses" games and prefer the ones that tell a good story by a wide margin. If there is awesome sex scenes in the mix, even better.

I've run into some really really well written games (and some really badly written ones trying to be more than fap scenes) that kept me playing/reading for days regardless of the sexual content, in some cases the sexual content became secondary to the story. If you can make me more interested in the plot of your adult game vs the adult content then that is a testament to your storytelling ability.

I am sad to see this one has had no updates in over a year. was very much enjoying the story route reconnecting with the younger sister and learning why she was such a bitch all the time and seeing her vulnerable side.

 

[Euron13]

I am pretty sure summer is gone will be pretty kinky and suexual too but he wants too lay down a good story and intruduce the cheracters first which I like. For me a good story and good cheracters are very important in a pornogame otherwise it would be one mindless render after another. Hope both games will be very long and not end after cheapter 8 or something.

We’ll have to wait and see. I don’t think there will be much by way of sexual content in Summer’s Gone, but maybe I’ll be proven wrong a few years down the track.

 

[UncleFredo]

Personally I started coming here for the porn games, no point in pretending otherwise, found this site by accident. But that's all changed more or less.

Sure i still avoid games with "no sexual content" tags, I prefer games that delve into the kinks I enjoy. But I avoid the more basic "here are a bunch of sex scenes strung together with the flimsiest of excuses" games and prefer the ones that tell a good story by a wide margin. If there is awesome sex scenes in the mix, even better.

I've run into some really really well written games (and some really badly written ones trying to be more than fap scenes) that kept me playing/reading for days regardless of the sexual content, in some cases the sexual content became secondary to the story. If you can make me more interested in the plot of your adult game vs the adult content then that is a testament to your storytelling ability.

I am sad to see this one has had no updates in over a year. was very much enjoying the story route reconnecting with the younger sister and learning why she was such a bitch all the time and seeing her vulnerable side.

You're consuming a game in development and in this case the developer has taken on development of another game. So yes, it's only to be expected that updates will be infrequent. I really enjoy this game, but I've resigned myself to the probability that the burden of two games may well result in the eventual abandonment of this one. That said the developer is still active so I have hope.

 

[Garvelt]

We’ll have to wait and see. I don’t think there will be much by way of sexual content in Summer’s Gone, but maybe I’ll be proven wrong a few years down the track.

Have you played the latest update yet? While real sexual content is probably still 2-3 updates away, the signs are already there that further down the line the story could lead to a big fuckfest, depending on player's choices of course.

 

[Gold613]

Have you played the latest update yet? While real sexual content is probably still 2-3 updates away, the signs are already there that further down the line the story could lead to a big fuckfest, depending on player's choices of course.

As you already know, I have not played the current iteration of SG. But from what I remember and Ocean has actually mentioned it multiple times in this thread ( I am not anywhere in the SG thread so no info on that side ), That his focus for SG is anything but a major fuckfest, instead it is mostly focused on a story telling and plot with some sexual content here and there. So yes Sexual content is guaranteed but not his focus, he also said and I am paraphrasing here. " If it is sex you are looking for in every update or every other update than SG is not for you " to someone. So while there is some build up here and there and lot of blue balling the amount of sex or sexual stuff is going to be kept minimal and the focus will be more on story telling and drama. That is or was his whole intention with SG. Now he could have completely thrown that concept out of the window and decided differently and would have said so in the SG thread, but he did definitely not say that in WiAB.

So feel free to correct me on that, but otherwise don't keep your hopes up for crazy threesomes or sexual content with every update after the first scene. He made it clear that any of that happening is going to be far in between... and given how his current update record is despite giving SG 2 updates in a row I have my doubt that you will be seeing many of em anytime soon when it comes to SG. Be prepared for that.