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Euron13

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See, I think aesthetically he is definitely good, but like I said I don’t think he’s unmatched.
 

jamdan

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Check out the game called 'Come Inside' IMO those are the best renders i have seen of any game on this site.
Honestly, I think the rework for this will be released before that gets updated again. It's been almost 1.5 years.

This is the downside of having great renders. Unless you have an army of computers, updates take an incredibly long time to make. The game with the best renders to time ratio is probably Broken Dreamers, even if I'm not really into the cyberpunk theme.

To keep this semi-on topic. It's also why I'm pessimistic about this ( and Summers Gone). Both great games, but they're both flagships. Splitting time between flagships is probably going to drown you eventually. The last " mini dev-log before the update" was back in April .
 

lipe2410

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Honestly, I think the rework for this will be released before that gets updated again. It's been almost 1.5 years.

This is the downside of having great renders. Unless you have an army of computers, updates take an incredibly long time to make. The game with the best renders to time ratio is probably Broken Dreamers, even if I'm not really into the cyberpunk theme.

To keep this semi-on topic. It's also why I'm pessimistic about this ( and Summers Gone). Both great games, but they're both flagships. Splitting time between flagships is probably going to drown you eventually. The last " mini dev-log before the update" was back in April .
I am very pessimistic about this game too, unfortunately. Don't get me wrong, I believe Ocean is a serious and ethical dev and I respect his confidence and ambition in making these high quality games in renders and story. But one thing that always puts me down when I think about this game is the possible time it will take for it to be completely finished. Just think: even if the rework was already done and released, there would still be 24 chapters to complete the game. And now the updates will be half chapters. In other words, to launch the 24 chapters, 48 updates will be needed. This is too much. Even if Ocean were able to make monthly releases without unexpected issues, the best and most unrealistic scenario due to the circumstances and resources of the dev plus the size and quality of the updates, it would take 4 years to complete the game.
Even though Ocean manages to release updates every 2-3 months, the time to complete the game will be 8-12 years AT LEAST.

Again, don't get me wrong, it's not my intention bitching around about dev. I just think it's an unreasonable amount of time to finish the game, even taking into account the high quality of the renders and the story. Unfortunately, from my POV, I see only two possibilities and both of them sadden me: 1. WiBA will take more than a decade at least to be completed. 2. The game will be abandoned at some point.

I hope I'm completely wrong. I wish Ocean can succeed in both WiAB and Summer's Gone and the other three games he's already said he intends to make in this universe

Sorry for any english mistakes.
 

Cabin Fever

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Just think: even if the rework was already done and released, there would still be 24 chapters to complete the game. And now the updates will be half chapters. In other words, to launch the 24 chapters, 48 updates will be needed. This is too much.
Well, I don't know about that. While the upcoming SG release is indeed a half-chapter release, did Ocean ever actually said it will always be half chapters for both games going forward?

Also, I think people tend to focus too much on the number of chapters. Anybody that has done any project management (and creating a game spanning a multi-year development IS a big project) will tell you "planned" and "actual" are 2 very different things, especially this early on in its life. Details are never quite set in stone, and may grow or shrink along the way.
 

lipe2410

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Well, I don't know about that. While the upcoming SG release is indeed a half-chapter release, did Ocean ever actually said it will always be half chapters for both games going forward?

Also, I think people tend to focus too much on the number of chapters. Anybody that has done any project management (and creating a game spanning a multi-year development IS a big project) will tell you "planned" and "actual" are 2 very different things, especially this early on in its life. Details are never quite set in stone, and may grow or shrink along the way.
Well, he talks about the releases in half chapters in the general faq on his discord, so I guess it goes for both games. About the number of chapters, that's what's in the faq of both games too. I'm just thinking based on the information currently available. As I said, I hope I'm wrong.
 

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name only one game that is like our red string and ocean games in terms of quality in renders,writting and is actually a ADULT game I dont talk about all this games that have good renders but full female college or some other ridiculous unrealistic scenarios or writting.
hillside, jessica o neil,city of broken dream, my pleasure, savior, reunion are the ones i think about maybe deluca family and halfway house as well i forgot some its sure but ^^
 

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name only one game that is like our red string and ocean games in terms of quality in renders,writting and is actually a ADULT game I dont talk about all this games that have good renders but full female college or some other ridiculous unrealistic scenarios or writting.
All of you are absolutely wrong just for 1 reason in all these games you seem to be the only male in existence Summers Gone, Where it all Began, City of Broken Dreamers..... The only game that somewhat portrays a real life scenario with good renders, fantastic story and the world doesn't just revolve around MC all bunched into one is BaDik and even that game fails at it but its truly the total package deal here. I hate NTR dont get me wrong but if were argueing on total package BaDik is King and 99.9 of every game fails at pointing out the fact that these women arent just sitting around waiting for MC to come say hello.
 

mommysboiii

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All of you are absolutely wrong just for 1 reason in all these games you seem to be the only male in existence Summers Gone, Where it all Began, City of Broken Dreamers..... The only game that somewhat portrays a real life scenario with good renders, fantastic story and the world doesn't just revolve around MC all bunched into one is BaDik and even that game fails at it but its truly the total package deal here. I hate NTR dont get me wrong but if were argueing on total package BaDik is King and 99.9 of every game fails at pointing out the fact that these women arent just sitting around waiting for MC to come say hello.
so True it just kills the imersion for me, if I have a game where MC has the biggest dick is the King off the world and all females have nothing to do than bend over for MC or suck him off it just kills the imersion for me best example is being a dik great renders good story but the unrealistic college scenario kills the game for me personnel.Thats why I think that our red string and ocean games are so good, but the only think that I disagree is the game that you mention because it has good writting and renders but it is the exact same thing that you mention.
 
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lipe2410

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can someone explain to me why Ocean's giving so much more priority to Summer's gone than WIAB?? I want to fap, not reading boring stories and being blue-balled to death :cry:
It's not a priority issue. Ocean already say that each game is made in one PC and the development of the one game does not interfere in the development of another. The thing is: the rework of WiAB is a work way more hard than Summer's Gone updates. And the pc of WiAB it's not to powerfull. So, the updates of Summer's Gone simply get ready to release more early.
 

Gold613

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I hope the creator focuses more on his other game. This one is pretty meh IMO
I hope he continues on this game instead of the other one, the other one came later. This one is pretty good but all kinds of over the place because he has some reworks in it and some changes made and in the end made it's quality go down if he had stayed and focused on this game this one would have had updates and improvements by now so let's not kid ourselves.


It's there to stay, either don't play or cry about it. Are you so entitled that if you don't like something you want it to be gone completely.
As far as I can tell, he merely spoke about the option being there and giving his opinion on his taste, he never said it must be removed so no idea why the instant hostile reaction. I don't give a damn about NTR other than that they should stick to the definition of it and do it proper instead of shoving it in just for the sake of it being there, which btw it seems Ocean made clear he is attempting to fix and avoid with his updates so am pretty much wishing to see how that works out. Stating his opinion and demanding it be rid of is a whole lot different thing. There was no need to go all hostile on em like that.

A remake of something with 10/10 renders and unfinished. Feels like milking to me.
The 10/10 renders came later, However I can understand what you mean, this game has been in the rework for almost 2 years now and myself and a few other who are amazed of this game have already clearly pointed out that it is very much crazy for updates to take that long, despite him having many setbacks and his "perfection" syndrome, which does not speed up or help anything, is not realistically achievable for what he has in plans. And that is a matter fact btw. So no while I do not believe he is milking the game, he is improving it and has many changes that much I believe. But I do get where you are coming from.

name only one game that is like our red string and ocean games in terms of quality in renders,writting and is actually a ADULT game I dont talk about all this games that have good renders but full female college or some other ridiculous unrealistic scenarios or writting.
City of Broken Dreamers, Being a DIK, Depraved Awakening, Dreams Of Desire, Become A Rockstar.

And while slightly lower but still top tier renders with good renders and decent or amazing stories here is a few more,

Babysitter, Melody, Lancaster Boarding House.

Now you may say " But I said : I dont talk about all this games that have good renders but full female college or some other ridiculous unrealistic scenarios or writting. "

You are forgetting something, that same goes for Ocean his games too, the only difference is his has more limits on it and he is trying to give each and everyone a personality and that they stick with it, which I can argue some of these games also have. However at the end of the day the girls tend to be or act in a certain way depending on how you threat them. But you can only argue that on some of the games. Become A Rockstar already has that going for you with depending on how or what you choose there are already consequences set in place if you try to go for all the girls.
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Personal View and Opinion here :

It has been over a year now for the release of update 6 ( which is not even the full update 6 btw as stuff has been taken out of it for a few reasons that are understandable ) and before that 8+ months for update 5 from 4, I think this was also the time where SG got in to his hands. I explained it before already and I will say it again, so far out of most of the things I have pointed out and predicted has become a fact and reality. Not looking for points or shoulder taps or a medal just stating a fact.
I want this game to come out and succeed I have made this clear countless of times already, I have avoided this place for ages in hopes of an update coming eventually, Instead I see on the latest update an SG update, which frankly I don't give 2 fucks about but that is just me and my opinion, however I was quite disappointed with the fact there is still nothing in terms of WiAB, Yes there are some renders and what not but clearly not enough to satisfy or prove fuck all to me. Again, my opinion.

I have already stated this before but at this point ill say it again, Working on 2 games if he wants to do that that is fine however I don't go looking at 2 game I only see 1 game and as such even if he comes out with an update for this game sooner or later, it wont change the fact that action speak louder than words, so in other words this game right now is set to get updated every year and a half and SG is getting an update every 6 months, so that means 1 game gets updated every 18 months and the other one every 6.

If he were to bring out the update for this game, despite it being a master piece and having awesome renders and whatever else that is Ocean quality, he should still get ready for some backlash because despite everything, by the time we get this update, the amount of content we are going to get will not match the amount of time we had to wait and a lot of people will be disappointed on that alone, also I doubt we will be getting the full update from 1 all the way to 6 in one go.

Now I said it before and will say it again say in the future, Ocean has to do what Ocean wants, it is his game his masterpiece his little baby so he has to do what he thinks works out best for him. Not hating on him not mad at him, But I am disappointed that the moment I see an update from Ocean on the latest page, it is not the game that was supposed to be NEXT in line. in other words right now, SG has gotten 2 updates in a row. So yeah I admit, I am a little salty about that.
 

Gold613

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Because SG is an overall better game as things stand and it also makes more than twice the amount of money.
Well no shit on that one sherlock, the reason why is because that one is getting UPDATES. Hence why it get's more support as it gets more notice. Had this one been getting the updates this one would have been earning twice the amount as people would have actually seen it instead of oh wait year and a half no update... That lone is more than enough to make people question if they should or should not support a game, SG being an overall better game is a matter of your personal opinion not a fact.
 

mommysboiii

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City of Broken Dreamers, Being a DIK, Depraved Awakening, Dreams Of Desire, Become A Rockstar.

And while slightly lower but still top tier renders with good renders and decent or amazing stories here is a few more,

Babysitter, Melody, Lancaster Boarding House.
all the games that you mentioned have this problem

so True it just kills the imersion for me, if I have a game where MC has the biggest dick is the King off the world and all females have nothing to do than bend over for MC or suck him off it just kills the imersion for me best example is being a dik great renders good story but the unrealistic college scenario kills the game for me personnel.Thats why I think that our red string and ocean games are so good, but the only think that I disagree is the game that you mention because it has good writting and renders but it is the exact same thing that you mention.
every game that you mention is like a porno unrealistic that kills the immersion for me personally and our red string and ocean games dont have that problem for me personaly.
 
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