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zandalari

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Has no one bothered to tell him to maybe get the games to a good spot to get more people buying them (if not outright finish them) and THEN dick around with adding whatever music he wants to moments that warrant it?

I know the man wants everything immediately, but a solo dev has to make some compromises. And I'd rather it be in the damn soundtrack vs the actual game.
 

Razrback16

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I think the music adds a lot to scenes, personally, so hopefully Ocean is able to get that solved down the road. I like the guy's suggestion above in the meantime about a "modder of unknown origin" coming up with a patch similar to the incest patch that people can tack on separately to "restore" music.
 

weezal

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I think the music adds a lot to scenes, personally, so hopefully Ocean is able to get that solved down the road. I like the guy's suggestion above in the meantime about a "modder of unknown origin" coming up with a patch similar to the incest patch that people can tack on separately to "restore" music.
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NOOOOOO! It was my favourite song, I have it stuck in my mind for a week every time I play SG or WiAB.
Just download it and listen to it when you play the game.


Can you just imagine all the people putting the music slider to 0 :ROFLMAO:
What's funny? I played the game without music and had no problem. I play my own music half the time and can find good/fitting songs for scenes etc. Sure, some of these games have good music but do I need the game to have music to play it? nope.


I know the man wants everything immediately, but a solo dev has to make some compromises.
Trying to have everything immediately will lead to many issues/problems. Many things can be added later on but Devs sure love making things complicated and complain about money issues.
 
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yossa999

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There is a status update literally on the last page :WaitWhat:
No time to search, shit won't hit the thread itself.

What's funny? I played the game without music and had no problem. I play my own music half the time and can find good/fitting songs for scenes etc. Sure, some of these games have good music but do I need the game to have music to play it? nope.
I basically do the same, but SG and WIAB are among maybe a dozen games where music matters. To me, music and background sounds in SG make up about 10-15% of the overall impression of the game. SG without "What my mama said" and "Every night" is the same as LoF without "Love Automatic" or BaDIK without Friday Prophets, especially "Punk Rock Flu". At least, those who know about these songs can listen to them separately during the game (although the songs are tied to certain game events to enhance the impression or set the mood, or even are part of the plot, "Love Automatic" is intended to be the most popular Lexi's hit in LoF). But those people who see the game on Steam for the first time will be deprived of the most relevant music.
 

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Has no one bothered to tell him to maybe get the games to a good spot to get more people buying them (if not outright finish them) and THEN dick around with adding whatever music he wants to moments that warrant it?

I know the man wants everything immediately, but a solo dev has to make some compromises. And I'd rather it be in the damn soundtrack vs the actual game.
Exactly, someone needs to tell him that if he spend the music money on hardware that will help him put updates out faster, he will get more people to buy/subscribe and more profits, instead of 2 updates per year for each game, he could do 1 every 2 months or so with good hardware bought using the music's budget. and when his games are established, he can license music however he wants. Such a waste of time and money now licensing music.
 
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yossa999

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Exactly, someone needs to tell him that if he spend the music money on hardware that will help him put updates out faster, he will get more people to buy/subscribe and more profits, instead of 2 updates per year for each game, he could do 1 every 2 months or so with good hardware bought using the music's budget. and when his games are established, he can license music however he wants. Such a waste of time and money now licensing music.
Everybody project manager until it's time to do it for real and take responsibility for bad decisions :)
I mean SG will be released on Steam and it's a great opportunity to impress a huge audience and make the game widely known. But the responsibility is as great as the opportunity, there is only one chance to make the first impression. I'm perfectly sure Ocean rates the quality of the game for release on Steam much better than me, you, or anyone else and he is much more than anyone else interested in the success of the release. So if he sees music as the weakest point at the moment, I would trust him on that. After all, he made the game the way it is now, and most of us like it. Remember how much he was blamed and still being criticized for reworking the first chapters of SG? But if you read the reviews that are written in the thread by people who first saw SG, then in most cases there will be something along the lines: "Amazing graphics, simply the best, only a small part of the second chapter looks much worse, just a pimple on perfect skin, what was that lol?" Moreover, as far as I understand from the dev log, he still does not have the opportunity to purchase this super-duper cgi workstation anyway and the successful release can give such an opportunity. So if he believes that investing in music will add more value to the game at release than anything else, I'll trust him on that. It's a pity that WIAB's budget doesn't allow him to buy a good music only for this game, but in the past, many songs were common for both games and it worked perfectly, some songs became the hallmark of both games, so this is not a problem.
 

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Everybody project manager until it's time to do it for real and take responsibility for bad decisions :)
I mean SG will be released on Steam and it's a great opportunity to impress a huge audience and make the game widely known. But the responsibility is as great as the opportunity, there is only one chance to make the first impression. I'm perfectly sure Ocean rates the quality of the game for release on Steam much better than me, you, or anyone else and he is much more than anyone else interested in the success of the release. So if he sees music as the weakest point at the moment, I would trust him on that. After all, he made the game the way it is now, and most of us like it. Remember how much he was blamed and still being criticized for reworking the first chapters of SG? But if you read the reviews that are written in the thread by people who first saw SG, then in most cases there will be something along the lines: "Amazing graphics, simply the best, only a small part of the second chapter looks much worse, just a pimple on perfect skin, what was that lol?" Moreover, as far as I understand from the dev log, he still does not have the opportunity to purchase this super-duper cgi workstation anyway and the successful release can give such an opportunity. So if he believes that investing in music will add more value to the game at release than anything else, I'll trust him on that. It's a pity that WIAB's budget doesn't allow him to buy a good music only for this game, but in the past, many songs were common for both games and it worked perfectly, some songs became the hallmark of both games, so this is not a problem.
I should not say about SG in this thread but i don't know how many chapter WiAB have but SG has total 30 chp after chp5 release there will be 25 remaining.... 5yrs gone for "remastered".... 1 update per year..... 25 chp left.... do your own math
 
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WiAB will be shorter than SG, that's all we know.

Don't really wanna take part in the conversation that always re-emerges, like; "why making 2 games at the same time" or "this will be completed in 2050".

All we can do is to support him and hope he delivers. If not, bummer :KEK:
 

sorco2003

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WiAB will be shorter than SG, that's all we know.

Don't really wanna take part in the conversation that always re-emerges, like; "why making 2 games at the same time" or "this will be completed in 2050".

All we can do is to support him and hope he delivers. If not, bummer :KEK:
shorter in what way do you mean? because the chapter count is the same.
I don't remember Ocean changing that after the rework, both would be around 30 chapters.
 
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Don't really wanna take part in the conversation that always re-emerges, like; "why making 2 games at the same time" or "this will be completed in 2050".
For the "will be completed in 2050 (if at all)" stuff, you are in the wrong thread. You must go to the AWAM thread.;) L&P lies when he opens his mouth, so many promises he has broken and ONLY gets slower all the time, whereas Ocean is definitely working on upgrading not only his games, but also the computers to work with. I am quite hopeful, that development speed of WIAB and SG will get higher than it is.
 

Kas96

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WiAB will be shorter than SG, that's all we know.

Don't really wanna take part in the conversation that always re-emerges, like; "why making 2 games at the same time" or "this will be completed in 2050".

All we can do is to support him and hope he delivers. If not, bummer :KEK:
Bruh SG will have proper lewd after chp 10 and according to some people SG will not have any "major" lewd scenes. if i'm not wrong, WiAB is linked with SG and some people say it's a sequel of SG so definitely WiAB will have lewd from first and we already seen! Now you are saying it will be shorter!!
 
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