VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [Ch. 3 Full] [Oceanlab]

[Guy On The Internet]

Why are you so angry?

Because its annoying when players like you come into our game threads whining about NTR when theres so many other games you could play. Stop trying to ruin the experience for us, if you dont like NTR then leave and find something that doesnt have the tag, theres literally thousands of other games you could be playing that doesnt even mention NTR.

 

[fzaner]

another update... another no leia sex content.

 

[Joshua Tree]

Because its annoying when players like you come into our game threads whining about NTR when theres so many other games you could play. Stop trying to ruin the experience for us, if you dont like NTR then leave and find something that doesnt have the tag, theres literally thousands of other games you could be playing that doesnt even mention NTR.

I'm no fan on ntr, but I don't bitch about if being in games, I just wont play them. And when a game offer it as optional, I see no reason why feel bothered by it at all. It's a bit like watch a porn flick with scat in it and then start complain about the poop!

You will find fans of ntr bitch about it not being in games that doesn't have it. So I guess it work both ways if someone start bitch about it being in a game that does have it as well.

 

[absalon1977]

i thought i should say something too support this game. I really dont enjoy ntr usually i will avoid ntr games, but i love this story and the many different routes, now the thing about less content on non ntr routes it might be true but there is still a lot of content not ntr related so i dont see the problem in playing. I play with ntr on for now and its pretty easy too avoid when getting help from a walkthrough.

 

[Joshua Tree]

another update... another no leia sex content.

I know people want things to progress and move fast in games. But tbh, that just wouldn't be realistic yet in the time frame.

 

[deluges]

I'm no fan on ntr, but I don't bitch about if being in games, I just wont play them. And when a game offer it as optional, I see no reason why feel bothered by it at all. It's a bit like watch a porn flick with scat in it and then start complain about the poop!

You will find fans of ntr bitch about it not being in games that doesn't have it. So I guess it work both ways if someone start bitch about it being in a game that does have it as well.

I agree with your first comment, but I've yet to see ntr fans complaining about the lack of ntr in a game. I've seen people say I hope that it happens or is possible, but the anti-ntr people are way more dickish in their behavior.

Like you said, I hate furry shit, but I'm not going to furry games and starting shit, I just don't play them.

 

[acewinz]

Enjoyed the update. Is it wierd though I get offended at imaginary characters in a game based on their actions in alternate routes? lol Oh, and Leia reminds me of a "joke".

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[fzaner]

I know people want things to progress and move fast in games. But tbh, that just wouldn't be realistic yet in the time frame.

i got you... however for me i dislike miru model so mush she's so ugly that i didn't feel any jealousy when others banged her... and her story events are just not that good to be honest. but fuck... leia is just so hot and all other ladies. exept miru and and katie very wrong models.

 

[Baxonius]

Talk to Miru about Fist and Anal.
is that a choice path or just Talk?

Dont forget add Anal in TAG.

 

[Methos23]

Because its annoying when players like you come into our game threads whining about NTR when theres so many other games you could play. Stop trying to ruin the experience for us, if you dont like NTR then leave and find something that doesnt have the tag, theres literally thousands of other games you could be playing that doesnt even mention NTR.

How am I ruining your experience by commenting on a game thread? Because you like NTR does that mean no one can comment on it, this is a game thread you're supposed to and how dose my comment effect the game

 

[deluges]

How am I ruining your experience by commenting on a game thread? Because you like NTR does that mean no one can comment on it, this is a game thread you're supposed to and how dose my comment effect the game

It's more obnoxious than anything else, but people like you are why there are so few ntr games, because people whine about a thing that clearly wasn't meant for them and devs feel like they should change the game to cater to delicate folk who are fine with cheating on their "girlfriend" but lose their shit if she were to do the same. It should've been very clear early on that this game was going heavy on the ntr. Rational individuals would just say, "Hey, this isn't for me" and go find something else. Complaining about it makes no sense.

 

[Methos23]

It's more obnoxious than anything else, but people like you are why there are so few ntr games, because people whine about a thing that clearly wasn't meant for them and devs feel like they should change the game to cater to delicate folk who are fine with cheating on their "girlfriend" but lose their shit if she were to do the same. It should've been very clear early on that this game was going heavy on the ntr. Rational individuals would just say, "Hey, this isn't for me" and go find something else. Complaining about it makes no sense.

People like me lol But who's whining now

 

[Deleted member 327695]

From the comments it seems it's not worth a download for the none NTR content why make the NTR avoidable when the game is 70% NTR just force the NTR from the beginning so we know what kind of game we are playing

Let me tell you why there is a Non-NTR path, even when this update had more NTR content in it.

I don't worry about what the game had in a 0.4 state, because it won't matter anymore as soon as the game is in a 0.10 state.
There will be enough content for NTR and No-NTR players when it's done. Yes, there will be updates with less NTR or No-NTR content.

That's the risk you take when playing a game that is still in development.

I'm interested in an interactive story. Many routes, Many consequences, Many ways to play it. No fake choices that have no impact.

In a year? Nobody will speak about that 0.4 had more NTR content. They will speak about how all these events impacted the future.

The end product counts, the intermediate steps necessary to achieve this, won't matter anymore because there will be enough for both sides.

 

[Deleted member 327695]

I have a very big question when it comes to "NTR is AVOIDABLE".
If I choose NTR OFF, the NTR content just will not be shown but will it be part of the story, or will it not be part of the story?

Someone can answer me?

For example, Miru, if I choose "NTR OFF", even if it does not show during the gameplay,
is she still cheating on the main character?

I'm one of those who hates NTR, but I could not help testing the game. And I need a clear answer on that, so I can decide whether to keep up with future updates.

Also, I took a look at the game's picture folder, just to see if I missed something that was not related to betrayal. And I could not help but notice that it has a lot of NTR content. It was the question of ignoring the NTR and continuing to have the option to betray.

In case nobody answered you. If you choose NTR to be off. Nothing will happen.

i got you... however for me i dislike miru model so mush she's so ugly that i didn't feel any jealousy when others banged her... and her story events are just not that good to be honest. but fuck... leia is just so hot and all other ladies. exept miru and and katie very wrong models.

Because her story hasn't started yet. Her story start's in 0.5/0.6.

Talk to Miru about Fist and Anal.
is that a choice path or just Talk?

Dont forget add Anal in TAG.

It's a choice. If something is unclear, there is a high chance that I have explained it in the walkthrough.
But you'll be able to do both in the end.

another update... another no leia sex content.

Her story hasn't even started yet. If you're here for Leia. Come back in 0.6
That's where Leia & Helen content starts.

 

[the66]

just fyi, i've updated my unofficial android port of Where it all began v0.4.

 

[deluges]

People like me lol But who's whining now

Me. I never said I wasn't. I at least have a valid reason, you.

 

[playb0y44]

Jesus christ, does the game have 0 compression or did you just compress it that well?

You must be registered to see the links

well test for yourself

 

[Ataios]

A thoughts, why people tend to object NTR much more than other fetishes they don't like:

In contrast to other fetishes, it's easier to stumble upon NTR than, let's say gay sex or furry content. Glancing on some artwork of the game doesn't necessarily reveal whether a game has NTR or not. Visually NTR is often just "usual" porn. That also means it can be easier worked into a game, that didn't have it before. Therefore a conflict between NTR and Non-NTR in one game is much more likely than e.g. a straight vs gay conflict. While straight and gay are like two planets in different solar systems, NTR and Non-NTR are like neighboring nations. And who is more likely to go to war?

 

[deluges]

A thoughts, why people tend to object NTR much more than other fetishes they don't like:

In contrast to other fetishes, it's easier to stumble upon NTR than, let's say gay sex or furry content. Glancing on some artwork of the game doesn't necessarily reveal whether a game has NTR or not. Visually NTR is often just "usual" porn. That also means it can be easier worked into a game, that didn't have it before. Therefore a conflict between NTR and Non-NTR in one game is much more likely than e.g. a straight vs gay conflict. While straight and gay are like two planets in different solar systems, NTR and Non-NTR are like neighboring nations. And who is more likely to go to war?

Except, if you don't like gay content you're probably not going to play the game that has "gay" as a tag, whereas people who dislike ntr seem to play those games and have... feelings .

 

[Ataios]

Except, if you don't like gay content you're probably not going to play the game that has "gay" as a tag, whereas people who dislike ntr seem to play those games and have... feelings .

That was exactly what I was saying. People on different planets (usually) don't go to war. People in neighboring nations do.